barnslyben 74 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 THE WHEATON X AND HE COLLIE X SOUND INTERESTING ,love bushing ratting general mooching, coat and nose very important just want to create a more robust type of dog ime mainly a daytime hunter, the dog should also be able to hold a fox ,i shoot also, so got to be game, also be able to put a fair show in on big rabbits .don t want much do i lol atb BB Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If you want the dog to do all of the above, why not up the size? Quote Link to post
CarraghsGem 92 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 collie whippet grey Quote Link to post
barnslyben 74 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If you want the dog to do all of the above, why not up the size? my bitch does all the above she s 21" do t need any bigger just tougher Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 cleanspades nice whippet x weaton would add coat and strenght Good call. If you want guts,the Wheaton would give it. Cleanspades is a cracker too. Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If you want the dog to do all of the above, why not up the size? my bitch does all the above she s 21" do t need any bigger just tougher I realise your bitch does all of the above but alot of smaller types won,t cut it,upping the size seems logical to me,ask yourself why not Quote Link to post
firstrike 21 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 hi all thinking about mating this bitch,shes 21"tts and 30lbs shes game ,fast ,lots of stamina,hunted rats upto munty her breeding is dam 3/4 saluki /ghd sire whippet i bred her, her dam was a brill bitch and shes turning out good too ,my problem is not sure what to put her to. her only faults are vey thin skin and poor thin coat,my initial thought was to use a working whippet ,but i would gain nothing in the skin ,coat department ,i also fancied using a 3/4 bred bull/whppet but same again thin skin .took this bitch ratting on sunday the terriers hardly got a look in, she accounted for over half the rats taken . i have an idea, heard good things about a border terrier x whippet ,game ,good coat, thick skin sounds ideal right ,don t want to slow the potential offspring down too much ,not so keen on beddy xs but want the pups to turn out small and game any thoughts fella s atb BB seen this bitch behind a few and she is fast and has plenty of wind.. Quote Link to post
barnslyben 74 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If you want the dog to do all of the above, why not up the size? my bitch does all the above she s 21" do t need any bigger just tougher I realise your bitch does all of the above but alot of smaller types won,t cut it,upping the size seems logical to me,ask yourself why not depends on your land i suppose, mine is small fields, barbwire ,thick cover holds a variety of game , also do rattng there was a 24"lurcher there that couldnt connect like my bitch ,to slow round the cover ,too heavy ,i just like em quick and little .perhaps i am asking too much Quote Link to post
DazAllison 32 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 For everything your wanting from your pup (holding fox & a spin on the bigger rabbits) me personally I would search for a good 3/4 greyhound 1/4 beardie collie with the collie it brings brains aswell as coat feet stamina nose etc etc Quote Link to post
bullmastiff 615 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 The wheaton sounds like a good choice (not having seen either dog) a decent half cross will make the pups roughly 1/4 Wheaton 3/4 running dog so should have a decent enough turn of speed without watering down the terrier side of things too much. End of the day it's up to you! Your the one thats got to live with them and also try and sell/cull any left over pups. All the best Quote Link to post
barnslyben 74 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 hi all thinking about mating this bitch,shes 21"tts and 30lbs shes game ,fast ,lots of stamina,hunted rats upto munty her breeding is dam 3/4 saluki /ghd sire whippet i bred her, her dam was a brill bitch and shes turning out good too ,my problem is not sure what to put her to. her only faults are vey thin skin and poor thin coat,my initial thought was to use a working whippet ,but i would gain nothing in the skin ,coat department ,i also fancied using a 3/4 bred bull/whppet but same again thin skin .took this bitch ratting on sunday the terriers hardly got a look in, she accounted for over half the rats taken . i have an idea, heard good things about a border terrier x whippet ,game ,good coat, thick skin sounds ideal right ,don t want to slow the potential offspring down too much ,not so keen on beddy xs but want the pups to turn out small and game any thoughts fella s atb BB seen this bitch behind a few and she is fast and has plenty of wind.. hi mate yes she does ,but feels the cold badly a 1/4 terrier or 1/4 collie in the mix could be what ime after ,i think we are getting there lads and it would nt slow the offspring down too much atbBB Quote Link to post
Chid 6,493 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 id go the wheaton x or beddy x , or a good collie/whippet over her ...id use a half bred if it was me , for no other reason than thats what i would like lol Quote Link to post
bigjase1 159 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 collie whippet for me bud not cause i got 1 lol i have a first cross collie whippet he has a thicker coat than my whippet bitch he is very clever and takes all i ask him to take.i he will go through brick walls he never gives up he, i will be putting him over my bitch when she is at age as the collie does put brains and a better tougher coat.ideal if u want the 20/22tts working dog.your bitch looks a fine stamp atb which way you go bigjase Quote Link to post
SMART DOG 340 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 just look for a rough coated mutt under 23tts doing the job you would want the offspring to be doing who cares what breed they are if they are capable of doing what you want surely that dog would be an ideal stud Quote Link to post
gnipper 6,425 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 If your not too worried about the long coat then this would do the job 22" Quote Link to post
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