samba 534 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 some top brood greyhounds in ireland have never raced its swings/roundabouts some a6 racers have bred open winners NGRC as long as the greyhound is sound and not injury prone 1 Quote Link to post
Mink 6 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Interesting topic , especially when you look at the other topic going just now Greyhounds , what do you think. Guys saying on this topic that they run Greyhounds and treat them like they would a lurcher when running them. Interesting to see 2 totally different topics about the same dog. Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Most courseing bitchs are maybe 90lb weight where as a tracker averages out at 50 t0 60lb in weight.Id amagine the tracker would produce a more raceier animal whatever the x.As for hunting ability ive kept open class trackers that were as good as any courseing ghound while hunting 1 was a demon to fox,he hated them.He was a son off DROOPYS VIERRA ran 98 times then retired to hunt for 3 years before pts Quote Link to post
darbo 4,776 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 how many greyhounds are tested in the field these days not the track before being bred from? Quote Link to post
coolbreeze 9 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 i think 50 to 60 pound in weght for a track grey is small most avrage at 60 plus ive had track dogs on and of for years biggest was 89 pound smallest 62 dont think that wether the brood is track or feild would matter much myself Quote Link to post
Guest INTERNET-HUNTER Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 how many greyhounds are tested in the field these days not the track before being bred from? not enough Quote Link to post
6pack 60 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I don't recall the last time I saw someone working a pure grey Let alone a proven history in the field. Surely, if adding speed to a cross is what you are looking for.....racing greys have to be keen or they wouldn't run - simple? Quote Link to post
Guest RAB.MCKAY Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Always been taught to breed only from the best or don't breed atall AND HOWS THAT GOING 4 YA ? Quote Link to post
fat man 4,741 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 i think 50 to 60 pound in weght for a track grey is small most avrage at 60 plus ive had track dogs on and of for years biggest was 89 pound smallest 62 dont think that wether the brood is track or feild would matter much myself My heaviest bitchs racing weight was 56lb dog 74lb and he was no small dog .Would you not agree that a smaller more versatile hound would turn better and faster than say a 90lb dog on hare ,deer,fox whatever i think they would. Quote Link to post
Red Collar 28 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Always been taught to breed only from the best or don't breed atall When u say you always been taught to only breed from the best, do you mean breed from the best bloodlines or the best dogs which have actually gone out hunting for six or seven years and stuck to their job? If it's the latter how do we get these dogs? If it's the first how do we get to find out if there the best bloodlines? Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 I'd worry about all the blood in my line. Otherwise whats the point? No point fannying about with half measures. If your going to do something, take the time to do it right and you only got to do it once. Quote Link to post
collie/grey 238 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 Nope couldn't give a damn as i don't have my own line!! Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing is, if your worried about what greyhound blood is in your lurcher, it's too late...! The lurcher world was fed the notion "that ANY 'ol greyhound would do" in regards to lurcher production from the late 70's to the early 90's curtesy of Mr Plummer, who quoted this often in his books, and in the subsiquent lurcher boom many bought into it. To be fair, in the early days, with the different climate in hunting methods and fewer litters being produced, i really don't think it made much difference. These days its a different world. A million lurchers out there and everyone seems to want the best ('though shalt not covert thy neigbours dog'..!), so people are constantly questioning the need to have the best blood. Well how many of us produce original first crosses.. Not many! Out of the thousands of lurchers bred each year, those that do, usually have 'em off breeders who specialise in F1's, the likes of Platt and Hancock etc. Then theres also the route of adding greyhound to your dog and again many don't know of a greyhound man who has the right dog or is willing to use it. No, most would go to someone they've seen in an advert in a lurcher publication, the likes of Sleight etc. So the rest of us just own Lurchers of one type or another and we are totally in the dark as to what greyhound blood is in there, well in my opinion, it doesn't matter one little bit..!! Because if we all worked our dogs as we should, we would know what is worth breeding off and what ain't, over a good few years graft and if that dog has performed to the best of its ability and proved its worth, then breed from it, you've got a good 'un and if it don't, then buy one in, from the best blood you can find and start over. Whatever your chosen type, it's too late to worry about what greyhound blood is in there, your far better worrying if you can find it enough quarry to test it properly..!! 1 Quote Link to post
Guest INTERNET-HUNTER Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) The thing is, if your worried about what greyhound blood is in your lurcher, it's too late...! The lurcher world was fed the notion "that ANY 'ol greyhound would do" in regards to lurcher production from the late 70's to the early 90's curtesy of Mr Plummer, who quoted this often in his books, and in the subsiquent lurcher boom many bought into it. To be fair, in the early days, with the different climate in hunting methods and fewer litters being produced, i really don't think it made much difference. These days its a different world. A million lurchers out there and everyone seems to want the best ('though shalt not covert thy neigbours dog'..!), so people are constantly questioning the need to have the best blood. Well how many of us produce original first crosses.. Not many! Out of the thousands of lurchers bred each year, those that do, usually have 'em off breeders who specialise in F1's, the likes of Platt and Hancock etc. Then theres also the route of adding greyhound to your dog and again many don't know of a greyhound man who has the right dog or is willing to use it. No, most would go to someone they've seen in an advert in a lurcher publication, the likes of Sleight etc. So the rest of us just own Lurchers of one type or another and we are totally in the dark as to what greyhound blood is in there, well in my opinion, it doesn't matter one little bit..!! Because if we all worked our dogs as we should, we would know what is worth breeding off and what ain't, over a good few years graft and if that dog has performed to the best of its ability and proved its worth, then breed from it, you've got a good 'un and if it don't, then buy one in, from the best blood you can find and start over. Whatever your chosen type, it's too late to worry about what greyhound blood is in there, your far better worrying if you can find it enough quarry to test it properly..!! all very true mate but when/if i breed off my black and white bitch i think the best option would be a greyhound and i brought mine in so i know what he can do in the field and all about the dog himself i know excatly how my bitch is bred and what she can do in the field and ive now traced the history of my blue dog through his tattos and finding out what he can do aswell i want good pups in the future for myself not profit and this is what i meant the pups i will have in the future IF i do breed my two i personally will no there history not just some random litter that i know nothing about and thats what im getting at mate i suppose its peace of mind if nothing else, you dont want a weak link in any line as once its in it can take years to breed out :thumbs: Edited January 31, 2011 by INTERNET-HUNTER Quote Link to post
Bosun11 537 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 The thing is, if your worried about what greyhound blood is in your lurcher, it's too late...! The lurcher world was fed the notion "that ANY 'ol greyhound would do" in regards to lurcher production from the late 70's to the early 90's curtesy of Mr Plummer, who quoted this often in his books, and in the subsiquent lurcher boom many bought into it. To be fair, in the early days, with the different climate in hunting methods and fewer litters being produced, i really don't think it made much difference. These days its a different world. A million lurchers out there and everyone seems to want the best ('though shalt not covert thy neigbours dog'..!), so people are constantly questioning the need to have the best blood. Well how many of us produce original first crosses.. Not many! Out of the thousands of lurchers bred each year, those that do, usually have 'em off breeders who specialise in F1's, the likes of Platt and Hancock etc. Then theres also the route of adding greyhound to your dog and again many don't know of a greyhound man who has the right dog or is willing to use it. No, most would go to someone they've seen in an advert in a lurcher publication, the likes of Sleight etc. So the rest of us just own Lurchers of one type or another and we are totally in the dark as to what greyhound blood is in there, well in my opinion, it doesn't matter one little bit..!! Because if we all worked our dogs as we should, we would know what is worth breeding off and what ain't, over a good few years graft and if that dog has performed to the best of its ability and proved its worth, then breed from it, you've got a good 'un and if it don't, then buy one in, from the best blood you can find and start over. Whatever your chosen type, it's too late to worry about what greyhound blood is in there, your far better worrying if you can find it enough quarry to test it properly..!! all very true mate but when/if i breed off my black and white bitch i think the best option would be a greyhound and i brought mine in so i know what he can do in the field and all about the dog himself i know excatly how my bitch is bred and what she can do in the field and ive now traced the history of my blue dog through his tattos and finding out what he can do aswell i want good pups in the future for myself not profit and this is what i meant the pups i will have in the future IF i do breed my two i personally will no there history not just some random litter that i know nothing about and thats what is what im getting at mate i suppose its piece of mind if nothing else, you dont want a weak link in any line as once its in it can take years to breed out :thumbs: Then in your case mate, good stuff, your going about it the right way Quote Link to post
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