bradaz2009 9 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 well i have got a grey saluki bull x grey saluki bull its like a greyhound saluki with a good head but racey and long and i got a grey saluki bull x grey bull right stocky power house good dogs but better at some things than the other but basically the same breeding but i have had had lurchers that have had 1/32 collie in it he was like a greyhound collie thing i say thing being kind it was the most ugliest lurcher i sin very nice pup but how he changed as he got older but what a dog very clever dog so it is good to know whats in a dogs breeding way back because they will come through sooner or later Quote Link to post
bird 9,873 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 good post, i think with any % you need at least 3/8 to make any differnce to the x. Say saluki to get that stamina in to the grey, i carnt see 1/8 making any differnce, ok a 1/4 but you could loose it in the grey. Same with the bull, to get the tenacity= guts , same again 1/4 maybe but 3/8 to 1/2 alot better. But as been said when you go past 3 breeds ,any thing can come out.!! Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 good post, i think with any % you need at least 3/8 to make any differnce to the x. Say saluki to get that stamina in to the grey, i carnt see 1/8 making any differnce, ok a 1/4 but you could loose it in the grey. Same with the bull, to get the tenacity= guts , same again 1/4 maybe but 3/8 to 1/2 alot better. But as been said when you go past 3 breeds ,any thing can come out.!! 1/8 will make a difference but you may not notice it. Quote Link to post
Red Collar 28 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 good post, i think with any % you need at least 3/8 to make any differnce to the x. Say saluki to get that stamina in to the grey, i carnt see 1/8 making any differnce, ok a 1/4 but you could loose it in the grey. Same with the bull, to get the tenacity= guts , same again 1/4 maybe but 3/8 to 1/2 alot better. But as been said when you go past 3 breeds ,any thing can come out.!! 1/8 will make a difference but you may not notice it. How? Quote Link to post
Guest INTERNET-HUNTER Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) this is why we run a pure greyhound dog!! we can breed off him knowing that when we do its a genuine line we are using and he works well every single person who has a lurcher on here has got greyhound in there dog but probably 25% at most no the greys used in the breeding :blink: the greyhound is just a greyhound attitude is a joke in my eyes if you want the best, find the best Edited January 31, 2011 by INTERNET-HUNTER Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 good post, i think with any % you need at least 3/8 to make any differnce to the x. Say saluki to get that stamina in to the grey, i carnt see 1/8 making any differnce, ok a 1/4 but you could loose it in the grey. Same with the bull, to get the tenacity= guts , same again 1/4 maybe but 3/8 to 1/2 alot better. But as been said when you go past 3 breeds ,any thing can come out.!! 1/8 will make a difference but you may not notice it. How? Is it in there or are you just seeing it cos you have been told so?you must know what you want it for before you buy a pup or breed one.....% is for speed,,in most cases Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 i think breeding dogs is a good sceince and not many get it [bANNED TEXT] , only so many in each litter is what you wanted rest fine but not what you wanted if the truth b told, if you breed to much colie terrier deerhound ,whippet you will always get wastage i like breeding good to good proven dogs then puttng theodd grew or greyhound in through time as pace is very important to cacth game on open land lamping or day lite etc been lucky to have bred some [bANNED TEXT] dogs but put alot of time and travel to get them Quote Link to post
bobby-b 1 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Very interesting post. Thought it might have answered my question. I’ve got a bull grey x collie grey. Im thinking about getting a bitch and to possibly breed them but don’t have a clue what to get. He’s a good all-rounder taking everything single handed. I kept thinking about different breeds but think I would be best trying to get the same x bitch as I am very happy with him. Any advice please Quote Link to post
Tassa 64 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 Internet Hunter that was a good post and hit the nail o the head imo. Personally i don't like any more than three types in the makeup of any dog. The amount off crap for sale is unbelievable, as Internet hunter says find the best greyhound, i.e. one that you yourself has tested and has good attributes ie feet etc and breed from that dog/bitch and then you know exactly what you have from day one and not some half door making up percentages over the phone. Quote Link to post
bull101 35 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 no way to determine what percentage is really in a dog, genetics arent accurate. just because you cross say for example a grey/saluki with a grey/bull dosent mean that you will automaticly get half grey, quarter bull, quarter saluki.people use percentages as a reference point. in reality you could and up with a more greyhound dominant dog, saluki dominant dog, or bull dominant dog, thro of the dice. percentages mean fu ck all, and whats in a dog means fu ck all, to an extent, its not about whats in them, its about what they can do. that is a very fair comment but imo its exactly whats in them, that gives them the ability to do various things Quote Link to post
bull101 35 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 good post, i think with any % you need at least 3/8 to make any differnce to the x. Say saluki to get that stamina in to the grey, i carnt see 1/8 making any differnce, ok a 1/4 but you could loose it in the grey. Same with the bull, to get the tenacity= guts , same again 1/4 maybe but 3/8 to 1/2 alot better. But as been said when you go past 3 breeds ,any thing can come out.!! i dont see where you are coming from with this because you are saying 1/4 you will notice but you could loose it in the grey, so 3/8 is a better option but 1/4 - 3/8 is not that much of a difference (1/8 of a difference to be exact) but at the same time you are saying you dont think 1/8 will make a difference, yet you think 3/8 produces a better consitencey to 1/4.........like i said there is 1/8 difference between the two...........so it obviously does make a difference......... if you can see where im coming from with thos BIRD? Quote Link to post
jarv5116 57 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 good post, i think with any % you need at least 3/8 to make any differnce to the x. Say saluki to get that stamina in to the grey, i carnt see 1/8 making any differnce, ok a 1/4 but you could loose it in the grey. Same with the bull, to get the tenacity= guts , same again 1/4 maybe but 3/8 to 1/2 alot better. But as been said when you go past 3 breeds ,any thing can come out.!! i dont see where you are coming from with this because you are saying 1/4 you will notice but you could loose it in the grey, so 3/8 is a better option but 1/4 - 3/8 is not that much of a difference (1/8 of a difference to be exact) but at the same time you are saying you dont think 1/8 will make a difference, yet you think 3/8 produces a better consitencey to 1/4.........like i said there is 1/8 difference between the two...........so it obviously does make a difference......... if you can see where im coming from with thos BIRD? the difference is when you have 2 or 3 different types of dogs that make up the 1/8 here and 1/8 there of this and that. Or you put a first x bull /grey to a 3/4 bull/grey you usualy know what your going get. is a inbetween of the both, not to racey greyhound but not to heavy like first x if your lucky lol Quote Link to post
bird 9,873 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 good post, i think with any % you need at least 3/8 to make any differnce to the x. Say saluki to get that stamina in to the grey, i carnt see 1/8 making any differnce, ok a 1/4 but you could loose it in the grey. Same with the bull, to get the tenacity= guts , same again 1/4 maybe but 3/8 to 1/2 alot better. But as been said when you go past 3 breeds ,any thing can come out.!! i dont see where you are coming from with this because you are saying 1/4 you will notice but you could loose it in the grey, so 3/8 is a better option but 1/4 - 3/8 is not that much of a difference (1/8 of a difference to be exact) but at the same time you are saying you dont think 1/8 will make a difference, yet you think 3/8 produces a better consitencey to 1/4.........like i said there is 1/8 difference between the two...........so it obviously does make a difference......... if you can see where im coming from with thos BIRD? yes i can see what you are saying, i know its 1/8 between 1/4 and 3/8. I just think when you go to as low 1/8 gene it may not show so much in the dog. Like saying if you got a grey 7/8 and 1/8 collie or saluki, dont think it would come through to make any differnce.? you might be right, because ive got a 3/8 bull 5/8 grey dog pup, and it is alot differnt to a bull 1/4 3/4 grey that i used to have.Bigger and differnt shape, and its only a 1/8 differnce.? I dont know if it because you are using same gene of that breed type of dog. Maybe some genes of other breeds are stronger than others, or 1/8 is stronger than i thought then. Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 this is why we run a pure greyhound dog!! we can breed off him knowing that when we do its a genuine line we are using and he works well every single person who has a lurcher on here has got greyhound in there dog but probably 25% at most no the greys used in the breeding :blink: the greyhound is just a greyhound attitude is a joke in my eyes if you want the best, find the best strange that your wanting best dog,how much will it cost you running said greyhound on,then to find out its not up to scrach,will you then try another,,,when you can just buy a pup lurcher from working stock,what you have seen both dam nd sire work,nd are happy with them,its a hobby just enjoy it,you will never breed the best lurcher in the world thats a fact,its always some fluke what happens by chance to some kid that dose not even know what he has,or even how its bred,,,but hey you keep trying the greyhounds,when you could have been enjoying lurchers work.just trying to help bud not pulling your efforts down,thats 100% effort 0% fun.atb mick Quote Link to post
bull101 35 Posted February 1, 2011 Report Share Posted February 1, 2011 there is always a more dominant gene when breeding, which one it is, is anyones guess till the end result, the 1/8 that you think is lost may not be visible on the outside but more as an attribute i.e more lung capacity, more intelligence etc (as daft as that may sound). im no expert but imo as little as 1/8 its going to contribute somewhere along the line (the way i see it) Quote Link to post
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