samearl14 11 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 (edited) After your views please. My closest friend has a cocker bitch which is 2 years old. Lovely little dog and i would definetely take on a puppy from it. Now the thing is when it next comes in season he wants to mate it with a cocker dog owned by another of our aqquaintaces. The dog he wants to use as a stud dog has good breeding but has been trained to a low standard and although used as a gundog i use the term working very loosely. Nothing i can say will dissuade my friend from using this dog as stud. So what im asking is should i take on a puppy when the time comes? Or get one from parents who are both well trained and have good breeding? cheers in advance lads Edited January 30, 2011 by samearl14 Quote Link to post
Hannah4181 260 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 After your views please. My closest friend has a cocker bitch which is 2 years old. Lovely little dog and i would definetely take on a puppy from it. Now the thing is when it next comes in season he wants to mate it with a cocker dog owned by another of our aqquaintaces. The dog he wants to use as a stud dog has good breeding but has been trained to a low standard and although used as a gundog i use the term working very loosely. Nothing i can say will dissuade my friend from using this dog as stud. So what im asking is should i take on a puppy when the time comes? Or get one from parents who are both well trained and have good breeding? cheers in advance lads From what you've said, it seems the Sire is merely badly trained, not badly bred. If the breeding is there on both sides and you are confident with your training abilities, i'd take a pup. Quote Link to post
eli 0 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 After your views please. My closest friend has a cocker bitch which is 2 years old. Lovely little dog and i would definetely take on a puppy from it. Now the thing is when it next comes in season he wants to mate it with a cocker dog owned by another of our aqquaintaces. The dog he wants to use as a stud dog has good breeding but has been trained to a low standard and although used as a gundog i use the term working very loosely. Nothing i can say will dissuade my friend from using this dog as stud. So what im asking is should i take on a puppy when the time comes? Or get one from parents who are both well trained and have good breeding? cheers in advance lads From what you've said, it seems the Sire is merely badly trained, not badly bred. If the breeding is there on both sides and you are confident with your training abilities, i'd take a pup. no problem if you can train the pup well rule 1 sound basic training makes even better gundogs sounds like the stud dog as not had eney Quote Link to post
SNAP SHOT 194 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Seen badly trained dogs with good breeding lines have excellent working pups, Training means nothing as long as the breeding lines are in the genes, Its just up to you if you think you got the skill and patience to take the best from the pup at the time of training..... ATB. Snap. Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 Seen badly trained dogs with good breeding lines have excellent working pups, Training means nothing as long as the breeding lines are in the genes, Its just up to you if you think you got the skill and patience to take the best from the pup at the time of training..... ATB. Snap. Good advice. Quote Link to post
Rory4 267 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 its up to you to train it right, but 2 years old is too young to breed from! Quote Link to post
Lloyd90 509 Posted January 30, 2011 Report Share Posted January 30, 2011 I know a Springer that is well bred Badger Court lines, in the hands of his owner he is bonkers and everyone in the local complains he is wild and theres something wrong with him. When I hold him he sits quietly and behaves lovely and I would love to have him as I think he would be a pleasure to train. The dog has what it takes it just needs to be shown the right path, now if the sire has the skills and abilities to be a good worker but just lacks the right training then Id take a pup of it. Quote Link to post
waidmann 105 Posted January 31, 2011 Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 as above the breeding will give the dog the potential, training will make a good dog. if the stud is well bred and has no obvious faults (gunshy,very nervous,overly aggressive.......faults in the form) then i would not have reservations on taking a pup on. atb waidmannsheil! Quote Link to post
samearl14 11 Posted January 31, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2011 cheers for the advice guys. I was thinking along those lines anyway tbh. Wait and see if it goes through or not now. Quote Link to post
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