Advice please folks :(

[bradaz2009 9]

none of my bull xs are stupid keane maybe but defo not stupid but some dogs no matter the breeding just turn out injury prone but yours might grow out of it they need good reaction times for the speed they go out and he will probably just be learning them but only time will tell pal but it seems he has had a bad start

[KittleRox 2,147]

[bird 9,916]

why do people think bull's have no intellgence?........

 

they are actually a lot more intelligente than most assume, feck in some cases they have made guide dogs for the blind!,

 

but back to the post any dog is going to pick up some sort of injuries when working, my young dog ran full pelt into a shit bin the other day! (broad daylight)

 

 

Because they dont have as much inteligence as other lurchers. Thats why they were used, for the power yes, but also there fearlessness, and never say die attitude, brought to them with not being the cleverest dogs, simple really. Just as an insite, how many different lurchers and what breeds have you worked along side a bullx, and how many bullx have you worked with. As the assumption cant really be made by watching just one dog, say a 3/8 5/8. They all need to be studied, and anybody who has put this into practise, will surely have come up with the fact, that a bullx(no matter which kind) arent as inteligent as another lurcherx, ie, collie, beddy, etc.

No body said that they all arent inteligent, and nobody said that they didnt have any inteligence at all, just that they werent as clever. their are always exceptions, which ever walk of life you take.

you wrong, ive had both xs over 25 years.Got a 1x collie grey male 3 1/2, and 6 month old 3/8 bull 5/8 grey dog pup now. In fact my bullx pup which i took to training class, not to train really more for it to be (social) with other dogs, and i have done this with every lurcher what ever the x for 25 years. There was 9 in my pups group, and Tod my pup came 2nd from top, which is good+clever in my book. A GSD won, and that was 11 months old and extra age made that bit of differnce, but very good dog though APBT +STAFFS are clever dogs, and as ive said all my bullxs were just as easy to train as my colliexs, both were+ are good with stock, and both retrieve. If i had to choose from both xs, i would go for the bullxgrey as i like a dog who gives 120% in all forms of hunting, were as other xs dont

[Shazza 52]

Having experience of Staffs they are highly intelligent & trainable. Lost mine 2 yrs ago at 13 but in his time he competed at obedience & agility, was not dog aggressive unless severly provoked and even then when his blood was up he would obey my commands and never cocked a deaf 'un

He was 11 when i was working Security trained GSD's and we went to compete against the Police dogs in a friendly competition. I took my staff along for a day out and for fun bet he could do all the Police dogs assualt course, they laughed at the idea but my little staffy proved them wrong when he even managed the 6ft vertical scale, as i say he was 11 then and losing his eyesight.

 

I wouldn't discount staffX's from a lurcher on the basis of intelligence or having anything good to add, other bull breeds i don't know about as i've never had them.

[Moll. 1,770]

I've a staffie x whippet, she figures so much out it is scarey. She taught herself to climb a wooden ladder over 6ft to sneak into my bed (it is a high loft bed)

Her new party trick is opening the raised dog cages in the back of the car to get INTO the cage to be with the other dogs

Great little dogs

 

I've a bull x bitch who will make believe someone is coming on the premises so the other dogs run to the door barking so she can get the best seat, they fall for it every time

When i first moved here (rural with no neighbours) the dogs barked one night...something was outside. I got up to check and feeling a bit wary i let the bull x sleep on the bed the rest of the night....bugga me, but didn't she try the same trick several times afterwards, i soon learned she would bark then stand at the bedroom door instead of going to the front door

[Guest hairybush]

none of my bull xs are stupid keane maybe but defo not stupid but some dogs no matter the breeding just turn out injury prone but yours might grow out of it they need good reaction times for the speed they go out and he will probably just be learning them but only time will tell pal but it seems he has had a bad start

 

 

how come people are using the word "stupid" who said they were stupid. that will just cause the thread to belly up and arguments to form.

[Guest hairybush]

why do people think bull's have no intellgence?........

 

they are actually a lot more intelligente than most assume, feck in some cases they have made guide dogs for the blind!,

 

but back to the post any dog is going to pick up some sort of injuries when working, my young dog ran full pelt into a shit bin the other day! (broad daylight)

 

 

Because they dont have as much inteligence as other lurchers. Thats why they were used, for the power yes, but also there fearlessness, and never say die attitude, brought to them with not being the cleverest dogs, simple really. Just as an insite, how many different lurchers and what breeds have you worked along side a bullx, and how many bullx have you worked with. As the assumption cant really be made by watching just one dog, say a 3/8 5/8. They all need to be studied, and anybody who has put this into practise, will surely have come up with the fact, that a bullx(no matter which kind) arent as inteligent as another lurcherx, ie, collie, beddy, etc.

No body said that they all arent inteligent, and nobody said that they didnt have any inteligence at all, just that they werent as clever. their are always exceptions, which ever walk of life you take.

you wrong, ive had both xs over 25 years.Got a 1x collie grey male 3 1/2, and 6 month old 3/8 bull 5/8 grey dog pup now. In fact my bullx pup which i took to training class, not to train really more for it to be (social) with other dogs, and i have done this with every lurcher what ever the x for 25 years. There was 9 in my pups group, and Tod my pup came 2nd from top, which is good+clever in my book. A GSD won, and that was 11 months old and extra age made that bit of differnce, but very good dog though APBT +STAFFS are clever dogs, and as ive said all my bullxs were just as easy to train as my colliexs, both were+ are good with stock, and both retrieve. If i had to choose from both xs, i would go for the bullxgrey as i like a dog who gives 120% in all forms of hunting, were as other xs dont

 

 

 

Sorry but who are you to tell me that i am wrong. We all can have an opinion matey. I have a 1stx bull, also a 3/8 5/8. A saluki, and have had a number of other x's including both colliex's.

For one, your colliex is a 1st x, not a lurcher. And you have only owned that one collie type, so you cant come here saying i am wrong, when you havent owned and worked with other strains.

And the thread wasnt on training dogs to retrieve or sit, etc, it was about why they are so barmy. And i answered with the fact that their prey drive goes through the roof, and its a do or die situation.

You say they are as easy to train. Well i can honestly say hand on heart. I have had all my colliex walking off the lead on any main road, cats about etc. And they would not stray from my side, i have never ever managed to do this with a bullx.

You also sayyou like a dog which gives 120%(no such thing) in all forms of hunting, well your colliex is only a rabbitinig dog, so does this mean you dont like him anymore, becasue before you got Tod, Brin was the bee's knees and the love of your life. And your bullx is only a pup, what if he doesnt do the reds, what are you going to do then, i think you are lighting your fire before the wood is dry. Atb hairybush. No offence intended, each to their own opinions.

[bird 9,916]

why do people think bull's have no intellgence?........

 

they are actually a lot more intelligente than most assume, feck in some cases they have made guide dogs for the blind!,

 

but back to the post any dog is going to pick up some sort of injuries when working, my young dog ran full pelt into a shit bin the other day! (broad daylight)

 

 

Because they dont have as much inteligence as other lurchers. Thats why they were used, for the power yes, but also there fearlessness, and never say die attitude, brought to them with not being the cleverest dogs, simple really. Just as an insite, how many different lurchers and what breeds have you worked along side a bullx, and how many bullx have you worked with. As the assumption cant really be made by watching just one dog, say a 3/8 5/8. They all need to be studied, and anybody who has put this into practise, will surely have come up with the fact, that a bullx(no matter which kind) arent as inteligent as another lurcherx, ie, collie, beddy, etc.

No body said that they all arent inteligent, and nobody said that they didnt have any inteligence at all, just that they werent as clever. their are always exceptions, which ever walk of life you take.

you wrong, ive had both xs over 25 years.Got a 1x collie grey male 3 1/2, and 6 month old 3/8 bull 5/8 grey dog pup now. In fact my bullx pup which i took to training class, not to train really more for it to be (social) with other dogs, and i have done this with every lurcher what ever the x for 25 years. There was 9 in my pups group, and Tod my pup came 2nd from top, which is good+clever in my book. A GSD won, and that was 11 months old and extra age made that bit of differnce, but very good dog though APBT +STAFFS are clever dogs, and as ive said all my bullxs were just as easy to train as my colliexs, both were+ are good with stock, and both retrieve. If i had to choose from both xs, i would go for the bullxgrey as i like a dog who gives 120% in all forms of hunting, were as other xs dont

 

 

 

Sorry but who are you to tell me that i am wrong. We all can have an opinion matey. I have a 1stx bull, also a 3/8 5/8. A saluki, and have had a number of other x's including both colliex's.

For one, your colliex is a 1st x, not a lurcher. And you have only owned that one collie type, so you cant come here saying i am wrong, when you havent owned and worked with other strains.

And the thread wasnt on training dogs to retrieve or sit, etc, it was about why they are so barmy. And i answered with the fact that their prey drive goes through the roof, and its a do or die situation.

You say they are as easy to train. Well i can honestly say hand on heart. I have had all my colliex walking off the lead on any main road, cats about etc. And they would not stray from my side, i have never ever managed to do this with a bullx.

You also sayyou like a dog which gives 120%(no such thing) in all forms of hunting, well your colliex is only a rabbitinig dog, so does this mean you dont like him anymore, becasue before you got Tod, Brin was the bee's knees and the love of your life. And your bullx is only a pup, what if he doesnt do the reds, what are you going to do then, i think you are lighting your fire before the wood is dry. Atb hairybush. No offence intended, each to their own opinions.

 

wrong again , 1st i am not talking about Bryn, i am talking about others dogs ive have in the past (colliexs and bullxs) Bryn is a good rabbit dog, and thats what i ues him for. The dogs i had before were 3 colliexs , and 2 bullxs and were good dogs on most quarry. ive been into lurchers from the 80s, and talk from experiance's from then to now, how long you had dogs then

old pics of both xs

 

bullxgrey

 

 

 

colliexgrey

 

[KittleRox 2,147]

Aye it seems Brin ain,t flavour of the month anymore,seemed like a good dug to me,a dug I wouldn,t mind in my kennel,shame really,

[hickymick 37]

Cheers guys thanks for all the replys hes a bull/greyxcollie/grey he does everything I ask of him [bANNED TEXT] I'm out workin he sits n stays till I call him n marks brilliant and is learnin on the lamp it's just when he's lose and playin with the other dogs he picks up a sent and he's off. Thanks again

even better cross for me mate,mine's just bullx nd he's 5 still mad still hitting tree's nd fences on lamp.how i miss my old collie bull greyhound. bitch,your's should calm down he's still playing just yet,

[Red Collar 28]

Hi guys n girls Ive got 13 month old bull cross and while out on a walk the other week he got caught up on a barbed wire fence so I rested him up when he was no longer showing any signs of pain I took him out for a run and he ran straight into a tree and a branch stabbed straight into his shoulder. So my question is, is my dog just stupid or is it because he is still young? Any tips or advice would b greatly appreciated thanks all.

Hello mate,I try to visit local sand dunes as much as poss while they young,plenty of rabbits on there for them to chase and it really helps steady ye dog,

[hickymick 37]

The only dogs i've seen that can analyse something and figure out a solution have all been bull x's, my main reason for using this type is their brains and eagerness to learn.

They do tend to want to get things done, no matter what the consequences, which i think makes people confuse that behaviour with lack of brains. You do get dumb bullies, dumb collies in just the same way you get dumb dog owners

 

Your dog is at that daft stage, got the brains of an adolescent with a powerfull body and hunting desire. The truth is the more he gets wrong the more he will learn from it, training will also go a long way to prevent anything you can forsee might be a harrard

wow all that from a woman such wise words,do you wash pots nd iron too,sorry koker

[hickymick 37]

why do people think bull's have no intellgence?........

 

they are actually a lot more intelligente than most assume, feck in some cases they have made guide dogs for the blind!,

 

but back to the post any dog is going to pick up some sort of injuries when working, my young dog ran full pelt into a shit bin the other day! (broad daylight)

 

 

Because they dont have as much inteligence as other lurchers. Thats why they were used, for the power yes, but also there fearlessness, and never say die attitude, brought to them with not being the cleverest dogs, simple really. Just as an insite, how many different lurchers and what breeds have you worked along side a bullx, and how many bullx have you worked with. As the assumption cant really be made by watching just one dog, say a 3/8 5/8. They all need to be studied, and anybody who has put this into practise, will surely have come up with the fact, that a bullx(no matter which kind) arent as inteligent as another lurcherx, ie, collie, beddy, etc.

No body said that they all arent inteligent, and nobody said that they didnt have any inteligence at all, just that they werent as clever. their are always exceptions, which ever walk of life you take.

you wrong, ive had both xs over 25 years.Got a 1x collie grey male 3 1/2, and 6 month old 3/8 bull 5/8 grey dog pup now. In fact my bullx pup which i took to training class, not to train really more for it to be (social) with other dogs, and i have done this with every lurcher what ever the x for 25 years. There was 9 in my pups group, and Tod my pup came 2nd from top, which is good+clever in my book. A GSD won, and that was 11 months old and extra age made that bit of differnce, but very good dog though APBT +STAFFS are clever dogs, and as ive said all my bullxs were just as easy to train as my colliexs, both were+ are good with stock, and both retrieve. If i had to choose from both xs, i would go for the bullxgrey as i like a dog who gives 120% in all forms of hunting, were as other xs dont

 

 

 

Sorry but who are you to tell me that i am wrong. We all can have an opinion matey. I have a 1stx bull, also a 3/8 5/8. A saluki, and have had a number of other x's including both colliex's.

For one, your colliex is a 1st x, not a lurcher. And you have only owned that one collie type, so you cant come here saying i am wrong, when you havent owned and worked with other strains.

And the thread wasnt on training dogs to retrieve or sit, etc, it was about why they are so barmy. And i answered with the fact that their prey drive goes through the roof, and its a do or die situation.

You say they are as easy to train. Well i can honestly say hand on heart. I have had all my colliex walking off the lead on any main road, cats about etc. And they would not stray from my side, i have never ever managed to do this with a bullx.

You also sayyou like a dog which gives 120%(no such thing) in all forms of hunting, well your colliex is only a rabbitinig dog, so does this mean you dont like him anymore, becasue before you got Tod, Brin was the bee's knees and the love of your life. And your bullx is only a pup, what if he doesnt do the reds, what are you going to do then, i think you are lighting your fire before the wood is dry. Atb hairybush. No offence intended, each to their own opinions.

 

wrong again , 1st i am not talking about Bryn, i am talking about others dogs ive have in the past (colliexs and bullxs) Bryn is a good rabbit dog, and thats what i ues him for. The dogs i had before were 3 colliexs , and 2 bullxs and were good dogs on most quarry. ive been into lurchers from the 80s, and talk from experiance's from then to now, how long you had dogs then

old pics of both xs

 

bullxgrey

 

 

 

colliexgrey

 

bullx's can be smarter than other lurchers,its just that most bullx's are not given training bye the people that use them then are sold on because they are too full on too much of a dog when not trained,the only down side of bullx is they can fight nd do damage if provoked

[Moll. 1,770]

The only dogs i've seen that can analyse something and figure out a solution have all been bull x's, my main reason for using this type is their brains and eagerness to learn.

They do tend to want to get things done, no matter what the consequences, which i think makes people confuse that behaviour with lack of brains. You do get dumb bullies, dumb collies in just the same way you get dumb dog owners

 

Your dog is at that daft stage, got the brains of an adolescent with a powerfull body and hunting desire. The truth is the more he gets wrong the more he will learn from it, training will also go a long way to prevent anything you can forsee might be a harrard

wow all that from a woman such wise words,do you wash pots nd iron too,sorry koker

 

What's an iron

[Guest hairybush]

why do people think bull's have no intellgence?........

 

they are actually a lot more intelligente than most assume, feck in some cases they have made guide dogs for the blind!,

 

but back to the post any dog is going to pick up some sort of injuries when working, my young dog ran full pelt into a shit bin the other day! (broad daylight)

 

 

Because they dont have as much inteligence as other lurchers. Thats why they were used, for the power yes, but also there fearlessness, and never say die attitude, brought to them with not being the cleverest dogs, simple really. Just as an insite, how many different lurchers and what breeds have you worked along side a bullx, and how many bullx have you worked with. As the assumption cant really be made by watching just one dog, say a 3/8 5/8. They all need to be studied, and anybody who has put this into practise, will surely have come up with the fact, that a bullx(no matter which kind) arent as inteligent as another lurcherx, ie, collie, beddy, etc.

No body said that they all arent inteligent, and nobody said that they didnt have any inteligence at all, just that they werent as clever. their are always exceptions, which ever walk of life you take.

you wrong, ive had both xs over 25 years.Got a 1x collie grey male 3 1/2, and 6 month old 3/8 bull 5/8 grey dog pup now. In fact my bullx pup which i took to training class, not to train really more for it to be (social) with other dogs, and i have done this with every lurcher what ever the x for 25 years. There was 9 in my pups group, and Tod my pup came 2nd from top, which is good+clever in my book. A GSD won, and that was 11 months old and extra age made that bit of differnce, but very good dog though APBT +STAFFS are clever dogs, and as ive said all my bullxs were just as easy to train as my colliexs, both were+ are good with stock, and both retrieve. If i had to choose from both xs, i would go for the bullxgrey as i like a dog who gives 120% in all forms of hunting, were as other xs dont

 

 

 

Sorry but who are you to tell me that i am wrong. We all can have an opinion matey. I have a 1stx bull, also a 3/8 5/8. A saluki, and have had a number of other x's including both colliex's.

For one, your colliex is a 1st x, not a lurcher. And you have only owned that one collie type, so you cant come here saying i am wrong, when you havent owned and worked with other strains.

And the thread wasnt on training dogs to retrieve or sit, etc, it was about why they are so barmy. And i answered with the fact that their prey drive goes through the roof, and its a do or die situation.

You say they are as easy to train. Well i can honestly say hand on heart. I have had all my colliex walking off the lead on any main road, cats about etc. And they would not stray from my side, i have never ever managed to do this with a bullx.

You also sayyou like a dog which gives 120%(no such thing) in all forms of hunting, well your colliex is only a rabbitinig dog, so does this mean you dont like him anymore, becasue before you got Tod, Brin was the bee's knees and the love of your life. And your bullx is only a pup, what if he doesnt do the reds, what are you going to do then, i think you are lighting your fire before the wood is dry. Atb hairybush. No offence intended, each to their own opinions.

 

wrong again , 1st i am not talking about Bryn, i am talking about others dogs ive have in the past (colliexs and bullxs) Bryn is a good rabbit dog, and thats what i ues him for. The dogs i had before were 3 colliexs , and 2 bullxs and were good dogs on most quarry. ive been into lurchers from the 80s, and talk from experiance's from then to now, how long you had dogs then

old pics of both xs

 

bullxgrey

 

 

 

colliexgrey

 

 

 

 

same old pics. I got my first lurcher at the age of 12, let me see, erm, 1967 was the year.

 

Is it not a bit early to be putting brin out to pasture.

 

And could you tell me a little more about your beardie collie x's, and how inteligent they were?