brookie 1,193 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I was always brought up with herding dogs,..and the lurcher/curs and types created from them.. Never saw a Saluki, until I left my native Wales,...and then,..well,..feck me gently,... Amazing dogs,.truly awesome.. My eyes were opened even further when I hunted the hares on a high fell in Cumbria. My host was running a big black and tan Saluki type, and he handled the dog in just the same manner, as my own herding dog composites,.and when his jukel took off after its prey,..it realy was some sight. These dogs are extremely versatile,..and if a guy is prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt, and go with the energy, that flows through their veins,..it is sure to be an exciting time for all concerned. Personaly,..a dog that has their tremendous prey drive, is not realy necessary for me, I just don't need it any more,.but I would always recommend a keen young buck, or any fellow who still wishes to realy 'go for it',..to give the Saluki job a fair try.. They definitely bring far more to the table than good feet and stamina All the best, ,CHALKWARREN.. well put Chalkwarren, .a very accurate assessment of this great cross . Quote Link to post
merle24 61 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Best animals ive seen have been old line bred lurcher type rough haired,, then lined with saluki grey first cross of working coursing stock,,,got to keep the wright ones back, and have to put a lot of time and work into them,,there nose is unbeleavable,, pace stamina,, and the catch more rabbits mooching and ferreting than any beddie x whippet lol,,, if you get the breeding wright and put the time into them then i think they will take some beating,, such a versatile animal that will take to and adjust to any given situation far faster than thee norm. Teeth arent going to be there game really some may take some maynot,, lets face it if you go after that stuff out and out your going to be looking at a different animal, but some may surprise i reckon.Iam not so keen on the straight salukigrey however as i think they dont make for such a versatile animal,, lots lack those gears you need to finish things,, lots need the room to do the job,, more of and big opens coursing animal. I think 1/4 saluki blood is all you need for a alround animal,, this added to a well bred lurcher to lurcher line these are the better animal imo and have been known to show coursing spercific animals and straight crosses up in the past,, saluki blood is very dominant i think just like the bull blood,, a little really does go a long way.People who slate them but calling them thick and stuborn,, i think its just a case that they havent done enough with them to make the bond,, as unlike the average lurcher they need more time to get the best out of them. Bitch has killed over 200 daytime cheshire hares 6 and still going strong. full kc reg saluki dog,, sired to pups,,, sits, lays stay on command. Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 loyalty and versaltility, and when youve been around since 6000 - 7000bc, you dont need to prove yourself............................ Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 to Whin and Darcy: Saluki types are only as ignorant as their owners want them to be, or as they treat them. How many Saluki types are allowed to develop their hunting instincts. I've always found mine to have exceptional noses, and given the opportunity, will figure out ways to catch their quarry in many different situations. If a Saluki is ignorant (thick) then how come so many people use them for long ears? And its not just about stamina> long ears is clever, needs a clever dog to outwit them on their home ground when the dog may not know that ground. Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I was always brought up with herding dogs,..and the lurcher/curs and types created from them.. Never saw a Saluki, until I left my native Wales,...and then,..well,..feck me gently,... Amazing dogs,.truly awesome.. My eyes were opened even further when I hunted the hares on a high fell in Cumbria. My host was running a big black and tan Saluki type, and he handled the dog in just the same manner, as my own herding dog composites,.and when his jukel took off after its prey,..it realy was some sight. These dogs are extremely versatile,..and if a guy is prepared to give them the benefit of the doubt, and go with the energy, that flows through their veins,..it is sure to be an exciting time for all concerned. Personaly,..a dog that has their tremendous prey drive, is not realy necessary for me, I just don't need it any more,.but I would always recommend a keen young buck, or any fellow who still wishes to realy 'go for it',..to give the Saluki job a fair try.. They definitely bring far more to the table than good feet and stamina All the best, ,CHALKWARREN.. Quote Link to post
Rake aboot 4,935 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 An I`m better than you attitude lol Have to state now though,, They are some of the best dogs i`ve worked and am enjoying getting out with my lads two just now, I`m one of those blokes that think lots of crosses have lots to offer , but I do like the old toffy nosed Salukis though Quote Link to post
Guest paceandstamina Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 saluki loves coursing, it`s his terratory, if you`v ever seen a january fit hare on the fen take on a lurcher and run it to a standstill then you`ll know why you need saluki x Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 saw all types of saluks and had all sorts of saluk crosses for all round work wont go past saluk collie cross of the [bANNED TEXT] kind but had some half crosses out of tor of dartmoor to greyhound made good dogs , had a big dog sid he was another handy dog mostly roe flusher, hare, fox easy ,the merlin and even ones a bit smaller but more good allround dogs ,ive bred some that you could use on fen feild and bolt a rabbit ,the saluki whippet grews ive bred are making good allrounders and doing there job ,up and at them type of dogs but with stamina, had some saluk crosses once the hare was in the middle of the feild he was tied up on nots ,and in the pot ,weather day time or nite time,in decent sized feilds,i still think a hard type of collie type back to the saluki type brings alot to the table ,as an allround dog Quote Link to post
salukixgrey 779 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 i think if a saluki is bought on right they will easily take rabbit dear and hare day or night. i wouldnt try mine with summit that bites back or id get a bull cross but i have heard of them taking fox but not really my thing. but for a good night out on the three game above dont think u can beat this cross they will run all night and prey drive is outstanding. personally i wouldnt have a lurcher without abit of saluki in it only got saluki greys but might get a saluki whippet grey next time just for lamping cause my older bitch likes the daytime more and im not sure bout the pup yet just have to wait for next year and find out. atb. Quote Link to post
belfast lamper 10 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 ive had mine 7 months now saluki bull greyhound hes spot on there not ignorant if u spend plenty ov time traning them there game enough dog with plenty ov speed 1 Quote Link to post
Dan Edwards 1,134 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 If you get a good one, then keep hold of it, because it's going to keep the pot full. Don't always believe the negative storys to the saluki crosses. Go out and see one work, one that is an adult, and that has been trained correctly. I truely believe that they are not for your avarage jo. What about your average jo54? Quote Link to post
artic 595 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 If you get a good one, then keep hold of it, because it's going to keep the pot full. Don't always believe the negative storys to the saluki crosses. Go out and see one work, one that is an adult, and that has been trained correctly. I truely believe that they are not for your avarage jo. What about your average jo54? Leave that oil rag out of this thread please......... Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Best animals ive seen have been old line bred lurcher type rough haired,, then lined with saluki grey first cross of working coursing stock,,,got to keep the wright ones back, and have to put a lot of time and work into them,,there nose is unbeleavable,, pace stamina,, and the catch more rabbits mooching and ferreting than any beddie x whippet lol,,, if you get the breeding wright and put the time into them then i think they will take some beating,, such a versatile animal that will take to and adjust to any given situation far faster than thee norm. Teeth arent going to be there game really some may take some maynot,, lets face it if you go after that stuff out and out your going to be looking at a different animal, but some may surprise i reckon.Iam not so keen on the straight salukigrey however as i think they dont make for such a versatile animal,, lots lack those gears you need to finish things,, lots need the room to do the job,, more of and big opens coursing animal. I think 1/4 saluki blood is all you need for a alround animal,, this added to a well bred lurcher to lurcher line these are the better animal imo and have been known to show coursing spercific animals and straight crosses up in the past,, saluki blood is very dominant i think just like the bull blood,, a little really does go a long way.People who slate them but calling them thick and stuborn,, i think its just a case that they havent done enough with them to make the bond,, as unlike the average lurcher they need more time to get the best out of them. Bitch has killed over 250 daytime cheshire hares 6 and still going strong. full kc reg saluki dog,, sired to pups,,, sits, lays stay on command. what as the sire did just asking Quote Link to post
karlsberg 319 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 pure salukis are ok if you like pure salukis but cant be compared to old fashioned coursing stock what have used salukis in past and now have more stamina and pace and determination than any pure. its taken good men to breed good coursing stock for uk fields and fens so i dont see teh point in going to pure now. i have owned one pure and to say they are ignornant and not very intelligent is false just cos they they dont sit down and roll over doesnt mean they are thick there intellingence is quite under rated. 1 Quote Link to post
Blue collar 0 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Being a devotee of saluki/greyhounds for many years i think the saluki blood adds loyalty and tractability to the mix.....As with most dogs, it's the owners narrow mind that limits the dogs ability...JMO..... Lol. Quote Link to post
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