Leewx 2 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Funny ya should mention this as i was watching a programme about Scott's fatal mission to Antarctica last night and i thought the same thing about captain Oates sacrifice " I'm just going outside, i may be some time". It was the right thing to do at the time in his opinion, stiff upper lip and self sacrifice, and as captain Scott said in his diary " We knew that poor Oates was walking to his death, but though we tried to dissuade him, we knew it was the act of a brave man and a English gentleman". It was the same year as the Titanic sank, a month before in fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robo-christ 40 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 i'd put my family first,but if it was between me and someone elses kids getting on a raft i'd give up my place (i think) im a strapping young lad and would have as good a chance as anyone of surviving in the water. which really isnt saying much lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Funny ya should mention this as i was watching a programme about Scott's fatal mission to Antarctica last night and i thought the same thing about captain Oates sacrifice " I'm just going outside, i may be some time". It was the right thing to do at the time in his opinion, stiff upper lip and self sacrifice, and as captain Scott said in his diary " We knew that poor Oates was walking to his death, but though we tried to dissuade him, we knew it was the act of a brave man and a English gentleman". It was the same year as the Titanic sank, a month before in fact. dont know if it was the same programme,but i watched a thing about scott in the antartica before.what amazed me was the fact.they never had the gear that they have these days.true explorers and some edurance. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,826 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 women and children first,i,d be wearing a dress Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 women and children first,i,d be wearing a dress have you got the figure for a dress lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
greg64 2,826 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 women and children first,i,d be wearing a dress have you got the figure for a dress lol i,m 6 foot 2 and 15 stone so in a word no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 women and children first,i,d be wearing a dress have you got the figure for a dress lol i,m 6 foot 2 and 15 stone so in a word no Quote Link to post Share on other sites
miller 18 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 In them days it was more gentlemanly like to give way for a woman, But now The women of today want to be equal then they get treated the same as any body else,I don't even hold a door open for them now They are like a wolf in sheep's clothing and cry rape when it suits them to get their own way!or turn on the tear's and cry 'But I'm only a woman' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stanleigh 135 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 The White Star line froze the crews pay at the moment of the sinking , relatives of deceased crew were only paid up to that time . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) The White Star line froze the crews pay at the moment of the sinking , relatives of deceased crew were only paid up to that time . it was the norm that mate on ships.as soon as the ship is un sea worthy the sailors get laid off.bad crack like,i wouldnt imagine its the same these days though. i would love to go to the wreck,never happen but would be some expierence.think it takes over 6 hours to get down there.also said in the programme the guy who was meant to be in the crows nest,was sick and he didnt make the voyage,and he had the key to the place where the binoculars were kept.if he hadnt the look outs would prob have seen the berg in time. Edited January 28, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boysie 12 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 In all fairness it just takes on person to be selfish and then everyone thinks 'f**k this' and joins in and then it's pure havoc. That's how perfectly innocent protesting turns into a riot. Titanic has always facinated me. I don't believe the storeys of it being full of gold and that or it was carrying secret prototype weapons or what have you, pure fantasy. Like it's been said, no one can say for sure what they'd do in the situation, and since I don't have bairns I'm further from it, but I'd like to say I'd make sure my wife and bairn/s were on a boat to safety. I wouldn't mind staying back, bottle of whiskey in one hand cigar in the other shouting and balling at the irish for not doing a proper job on the riveting Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 In all fairness it just takes on person to be selfish and then everyone thinks 'f**k this' and joins in and then it's pure havoc. That's how perfectly innocent protesting turns into a riot. Titanic has always facinated me. I don't believe the storeys of it being full of gold and that or it was carrying secret prototype weapons or what have you, pure fantasy. Like it's been said, no one can say for sure what they'd do in the situation, and since I don't have bairns I'm further from it, but I'd like to say I'd make sure my wife and bairn/s were on a boat to safety. I wouldn't mind staying back, bottle of whiskey in one hand cigar in the other shouting and balling at the irish for not doing a proper job on the riveting :laugh: i honestly dont think it was anyones particular fault.it was a series of bad luck and the way the berg tore open the compartments.it could have stayed afloat with 3 flooded,but 5 no way.as the guy who built it anderews said when the white star official ishmay said "this ship cant sink" anderw replied allegedly. "its made of iron sir,i can assure you.she can,and she will.its a mathematical certainty"! yea the programme said that there was no tons of gold on it.there was a right few quids worth of personal jewellery on board tho.wheres my diving suit lol 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ratreeper 441 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Why is it 'fact' that a woman's life is worth more than a mans? There seems to be a bit of a grey area in society when what is traditionally the done thing, ie holding a door for a woman can now be classed as sexist. I say this as I will hold a door for anyone, I don't check if they have a bra on first. So I held a door without thinking about it and got an ear full because "I don't need a MAN to hold a door for me". I don't really have a point except that how different people see a situation is based on a lot more than logic and fact. It's about awareness, feminist want society to be aware of blasé comments...but are there any men fighting for equality? Or common sense? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Why is it 'fact' that a woman's life is worth more than a mans? There seems to be a bit of a grey area in society when what is traditionally the done thing, ie holding a door for a woman can now be classed as sexist. I say this as I will hold a door for anyone, I don't check if they have a bra on first. So I held a door without thinking about it and got an ear full because "I don't need a MAN to hold a door for me". I don't really have a point except that how different people see a situation is based on a lot more than logic and fact. It's about awareness, feminist want society to be aware of blasé comments...but are there any men fighting for equality? Or common sense? i agree mate,however back in those days i think it was just the done thing.chivalry and all that.i honestly dont know if it is still the case today on a sinking ship,woman and kids first.someone made a good point about the plane crash in new york though.men made sure women and kids got out first. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boysie 12 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 In all fairness it just takes on person to be selfish and then everyone thinks 'f**k this' and joins in and then it's pure havoc. That's how perfectly innocent protesting turns into a riot. Titanic has always facinated me. I don't believe the storeys of it being full of gold and that or it was carrying secret prototype weapons or what have you, pure fantasy. Like it's been said, no one can say for sure what they'd do in the situation, and since I don't have bairns I'm further from it, but I'd like to say I'd make sure my wife and bairn/s were on a boat to safety. I wouldn't mind staying back, bottle of whiskey in one hand cigar in the other shouting and balling at the irish for not doing a proper job on the riveting :laugh: i honestly dont think it was anyones particular fault.it was a series of bad luck and the way the berg tore open the compartments.it could have stayed afloat with 3 flooded,but 5 no way.as the guy who built it anderews said when the white star official ishmay said "this ship cant sink" anderw replied allegedly. "its made of iron sir,i can assure you.she can,and she will.its a mathematical certainty"! yea the programme said that there was no tons of gold on it.there was a right few quids worth of personal jewellery on board tho.wheres my diving suit lol 2 Wey that's it exactly, made of iron, of course it was going to sink. But, with respect to the builders/designer, I don't think they ever expected it do really be 'tested' as such like actually hitting an iceberg. It was never said that 'god himself could not sink this ship' until after it sank, ironically. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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