scothunter 12,609 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Ok just watched a programme on the titanic,and it got me thinking.Apart from a few who sneaked onto the life boats.The vast majority of men stood back and made sure woman and kids got in first.For the most the men reserved the fact they were going to drown.was it just a trait back in those days where men had better morals and were gentlemen.what i mean is if a similar thing happened today,would our generation be so obliging to accept the fact that woman and kids should get preference?i would like to think if i was in that situation i would,but you really cant tell unless you are in that position i guess.also wonder what it was about the titanic that it has stuck in the publics mind after so many years.after all there have been far worse disasters since then,and most have been forgotten or not held in the same light as the Titanic.just got me thinking thats why i ask. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mangy1983 51 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Ok just watched a programme on the titanic,and it got me thinking.Apart from a few who sneaked onto the life boats.The vast majority of men stood back and made sure woman and kids got in first.For the most the men reserved the fact they were going to drown.was it just a trait back in those days where men had better morals and were gentlemen.what i mean is if a similar thing happened today,would our generation be so obliging to accept the fact that woman and kids should get preference?i would like to think if i was in that situation i would,but you really cant tell unless you are in that position i guess.also wonder what it was about the titanic that it has stuck in the publics mind after so many years.after all there have been far worse disasters since then,and most have been forgotten or not held in the same light as the Titanic.just got me thinking thats why i ask. I think its to do with the story as a whole, the ship they said even God couldn't sink sinks on her maiden voyage. The fact that there are so many theories on the facts leading up to the sinking. The band playing until she went down, a captain that actually went down with his ship, the fact that there was supposedly millions of pounds worth of treasure on board her, the name Titanic, greedy fat cat type men ensuring their place on lifeboats. When you put all of this together its a story you just couldn't make up in my opinion. cheers Callum Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 (edited) Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Edited January 26, 2011 by scothunter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
just jack 998 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. i'd go with that, Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Nope sorry.......family safe then am next. Just the truth and i think if it did happen thats exactly what most would do. Might rattle down a quick bottle of whisky just incase i dont make it...i'm sure the bar would be a 'free' 1 by then.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Nope sorry.......family safe then am next. Just the truth and i think if it did happen thats exactly what most would do. Might rattle down a quick bottle of whisky just incase i dont make it...i'm sure the bar would be a 'free' 1 by then.... dont be sorry id be in the boat before you lol Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lab 10,979 Posted January 26, 2011 Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Nope sorry.......family safe then am next. Just the truth and i think if it did happen thats exactly what most would do. Might rattle down a quick bottle of whisky just incase i dont make it...i'm sure the bar would be a 'free' 1 by then.... dont be sorry id be in the boat before you lol Unless you had colours on and you'd be in the water first, rattled er the heed wi a half empty bottle eh Glenmorangie.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 26, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 26, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Nope sorry.......family safe then am next. Just the truth and i think if it did happen thats exactly what most would do. Might rattle down a quick bottle of whisky just incase i dont make it...i'm sure the bar would be a 'free' 1 by then.... dont be sorry id be in the boat before you lol Unless you had colours on and you'd be in the water first, rattled er the heed wi a half empty bottle eh Glenmorangie.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Simoman 110 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I read a book about the Titanic disaster based on survivors stories, a really upsetting book, talk of babies and children floating past the lifeboats, men putting their families in boats knowing they would die.... Very upsetting, you never know what would happen in those situations, I know my kids would come first and nobody would keep them out of a lifeboat but after that who knows what you would do, knowing you were going to die!!!!! I just hope i never have to find out!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I read a book about the Titanic disaster based on survivors stories, a really upsetting book, talk of babies and children floating past the lifeboats, men putting their families in boats knowing they would die.... Very upsetting, you never know what would happen in those situations, I know my kids would come first and nobody would keep them out of a lifeboat but after that who knows what you would do, knowing you were going to die!!!!! I just hope i never have to find out!!!!!!!!! yea me either,must have been terrible.ive read and watched a few things on it.its true that some men just went back to thier cabins after seeing there wifes and kids in the lifeboats and saying thier good byes.also that super rich guy.think his name was astor.he refused to wear a life jacket and went to the bar with his mate and valet,and waited on the inevitable.A lot of shit was made up in the movie (well nothing new there,hollywood writes its on history)james cameron had to go to scotland and apologise to the first officer william murdochs relatives.for potraying him as the cause of the disaster and making out he commited sucide after shooting a cpl of passengers an accepting a bribe.total slur on his character.in fact eye witness accounts say most of the survivors owe thier lifes to him.a radio operator at the inquest said he last saw murdoch trying to free a collapsable lifeboat when he was swept over board.Its true about the director ishmay of white star,sneaking onto a lifeboat.once he arrived bacvk in the states he was shunned from society and branded a coward.died pennyless. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nik_B 3,790 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Nope sorry.......family safe then am next. Just the truth and i think if it did happen thats exactly what most would do. Might rattle down a quick bottle of whisky just incase i dont make it...i'm sure the bar would be a 'free' 1 by then.... I think I'd do the same to be totally honest. Family first and I have to look after them so I'd put that before anyone else although I doubt I could stand and watch any child get left behind so might take my chances in the water at least. Definately wouldn't stay on the ship as that is certain death. What I was told in survival school is you are more likely to die from burst blood vessels (due to your blood pressure going through the roof) than survive long enough to die from hypothermia and that survival time is under a minute. Sobbering thought and I suspect there were alot less stiff upper lips that people make out during the real thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
RicW 67 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Remember when that plane went down on the river in New York? The men all made sure that women and kids got priority on the life rafts. OK, not as hairy as the Titanic but several guys who could have got to a raft stayed with the plane while they got the woman and kids to safety even though the plane might sink and take them with it. Ric Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 Staring certain death in the face.....i'm afraid it would be my family first and f**k the rest. It would be a free for all. yea obviously mate,but what i mean is aftyer getting your family to safety,would you give up your place for somone elses kids and wife? i honestly believe in by gone days,that men were more concerned of what was the right thing to do than self preservation. Nope sorry.......family safe then am next. Just the truth and i think if it did happen thats exactly what most would do. Might rattle down a quick bottle of whisky just incase i dont make it...i'm sure the bar would be a 'free' 1 by then.... I think I'd do the same to be totally honest. Family first and I have to look after them so I'd put that before anyone else although I doubt I could stand and watch any child get left behind so might take my chances in the water at least. Definately wouldn't stay on the ship as that is certain death. What I was told in survival school is you are more likely to die from burst blood vessels (due to your blood pressure going through the roof) than survive long enough to die from hypothermia and that survival time is under a minute. Sobbering thought and I suspect there were alot less stiff upper lips that people make out during the real thing. fair point,yea the water was minus 6 i dont think anyone would survive long in that.I would like to think the same as you though,i wouldnt leave a child as i took my place.It was at the time a rule though,woman and children first.another story i read was the millionaire strausse.maker of the jeans.he turned his spot down twice for woman and kids,and when he eventually realised that there were not enough life boats.he refused point blank to get in one and walked back into the ship and was never seen again.must have been horrific and as simon said all those bodies floating in the sea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bird 10,013 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I read a book about the Titanic disaster based on survivors stories, a really upsetting book, talk of babies and children floating past the lifeboats, men putting their families in boats knowing they would die.... Very upsetting, you never know what would happen in those situations, I know my kids would come first and nobody would keep them out of a lifeboat but after that who knows what you would do, knowing you were going to die!!!!! I just hope i never have to find out!!!!!!!!! true mate, i think would give my life for a child but not a woman . A man or woman would have maybe the same chance in the water but not a child. But in that water you would be dead in 5 mins anyway Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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