Night time range estimation

[rossi_j 99]

Hey guys, does anyone have any hints/tips on using a lazer range finder at night as its tricky when dark without alerting quarry?

After watching si use his scope mounted lazer with pin point accuracy im wondering weather or not to give one of them a try but think they probably work better with the n.v than on the lamp.

Any ideas??

 

.atb. .ste.

[festa 206]

through the night its hard mate with an lrf .. unless you can see it i.e on a clear night or other type of light ,,, so a laser could be your best shot ... ive got 1 coming next week

 

atb gary

[zini 1,939]

Hi Ste,

 

A scope mounted laser works very well through a lamp buddy.

 

It’s actually better through a scope than on the NV scope camera.

 

For the most accurate range finding using one what I will advise is for you to have your laser mounted directly under your stock in line with your barrel (so not off to one side).

 

What this does is gives you a really big angle between your scopes line of sight (LOS) and the lasers straight beam.

 

By doing this you will be able to tell the slightest difference from your zero either way (closer or further away.

 

I am considering moving my bipod back 2 inches on my .22 Ultra and fitting a weaver short rail where the bipod is now to fit my Hawke laser there giving me a huge angle between laser and scope LOS.

 

Here is a bit of theory that I’ve done to assist you in understanding how the laser works at night.

 

Si

Laser theory.bmp

Edited January 25, 2011 by zini

[rossi_j 99]

Thanks gary and si, great pic shows it perfectly , is either of you able to post a link to a good lazer from a trusted seller for reasonable value?

My next problem is I have a scope mounted lamp deben mini, where would I mount my lazer? I asume it has to be parralell to the scope on its vertical axies and any horizontal deviation would make range finding difficult

Moving the lazer left to right or vise versa at different ranges.

Guess I will have to use it with my cree.

Will a green lazer have better contrast in red lamp light or is red the prefferd colour?

Thanks for your imput guys mutch appreciated.

 

.atb. .ste.

 

Sory one more question (possibly a daft one) I know I have already asked a lot, I noticed there is no turrets on lazers I have seen and was wondering how you zero them in??

[zini 1,939]

Hi Ste,

 

You zero a laser the exact same way as you zero a scope. There is a windage turret and height turret on a laser too.

 

A good laser is the Hawke laser.

 

Green is also ok but I sold mine as the green light frightened the rabbits for some reason.

 

You will see a red laser in a red lamp fine mate.

 

Try Blackpool air rifle mate I think they will do the Hawke laser, if not try Uttings rifles.

 

Si.

[rossi_j 99]

Cheers si, I will give them a try, I have read somewhere that rabbits can see green light very well perhaps that is the reason why red dosent bother them as mutch.

Thanks for your help.

.atb. .ste.

[aaronpigeonplucker 32]

hi si, can you use a laser mounted on top of your scope or does his not give the same effect?

[rossi_j 99]

hi si, can you use a laser mounted on top of your scope or does his not give the same effect?

 

 

Yes aaron you can, by the looks of it that appears to be the most common place

 

.atb. .ste.

[zini 1,939]

Yep you can use the laser above the scope mate.

 

A better place is under the barrel though.

 

Si

Edited January 27, 2011 by zini

[matt_hooks 188]

Aaron, the further you can get the laser from the scope, the more obvious a difference in range is.

 

Ste, you can EITHER mount the scope aligned in the vertical plane to the scope, OR in the horizontal plane. If you are not aligned on either then you will not have a spot appearing on the reticule, so accurate estimation will be more difficult. Most people mount the laser under the barrel as this gives them the biggest difference in plane for the smallest apparent increase in size/bulk.

 

Any shooting laser should have some kind of arrangement to allow fine adjustment of alignment for "zeroing". Obviously any non-shooting laser is unlikely to have this. You CAN use a cheap laser pointer, but it takes some ingenuity to adjust it properly.

[rossi_j 99]

Cheers for the advice guys, I may ask a little more when it gets here with regards to calibration.

Thanks for the help.

.atb. .ste.

[Sweeney-Todd 208]

Hi Si.

 

This might save you moving the bipod back and adding a rail mate.

 

http://www.uttings.co.uk/Product/758/105842/beamshot-laser-scope-mount/

 

Its a 30mm scope mount for a laser, but I reckon it will fit onto the cylender of the Ultra very nicely.

Well I hope it will, I have one on the way

 

 

ATB.

 

 

 

Bill.