Border Terriers

[MJC 1]

nice looking pup's

 

why all the hostility unless the parents are dug to twice a week, the lad never said they were fox dogs and never lied trying to sell them, he was very very honest, the father has done some bushing and ratting and the bitch has done the above ground stuff and run through a few earths, not an ardent digging dog

 

if i wanted another dog they would do for me, ferreting,shooting,ratting etc..perhaps even foxing

 

cheers COMPO

 

they are nice looking pups,

 

it is true for what i say about the dog and bitch the father has done some bushing and ratting and the bitch has run a few earths, but i did not buy her to run earths, i got her for bushing and ratting. why do some people say if you buy a terrier it has to go to ground like i said i did not buy her to go to ground if my bitch go's to ground then she go's to ground i am new to this.

Also people think i have breed her for just money ( THAT IS NOT TRUE ) i would not of put a post on this site if it was just for money all i did was put a few pics on to show you terrier lads.

Yes there maybe people out there that do that say there terriers work earths and when u buy a pup they don't like i say all i wanted to do is show my pics i did not say they are for sale or say how much, I AM NEW TO THIS AND SO IS MY SON

[craig 0]

I own 2 borders, both KC registered.Origionally i bought my first one as a pet, but after owning her for 9 months or so i realised i could have good fun with her ratting and chasing bunnys, so i bred with a decent line and kept one of the pups. Both decent bushing dogs, but ive never put them onto a fox. For the simple reason that ive never needed to or had the chance to. Yes i've got to agree alot of the KC folks have never seen a fox or a working terrier but dont dimiss the breed as a worker. My two work the way i want them too.

So define a working terrier? One that goes to ground or one that your happy with the way it works?

 

 

 

 

By the way, nice pups

[MJC 1]

Cheers Craig

 

nice to hear from someone who say's that there dogs work the way they want them too

[targa 5]

90% of all the borders I seen in my life (maybe 60, 70 over the years? somewhere inbetween) where all workers who grab the fox below ground to kill him. And 50 % made that kill.

but maybe I was lucky to be just on the right place in the right time to see it?

 

Bloody characters them

[Guest shay]

at the end of the day there is a lot more people breeding dogs that have never seen a rat or rabbit let alone a fox, so if this guy who feeds his dogs works them, although not in the true terrier way, then who are we to say what he should or shouldnt do? for every MJC there are hundereds of people breeding dogs that have probably never even been out in the country let alone worked on game and would probably be horrified at the thought.

 

 

Come on now Thurso, you know who i am, and so do a lot of others, the reason being why this shouldn't be on here is plain and simple, they aint working dogs and it is a hunting site, not a KC show site, fair do's if the litter that has been bred from these shit dogs is genuine then I want one for free and not 300 fecking quid which they will probably be sold for, the guy who has bred these pups I do not know but it is guys just like him who is responsible for the downfall of many working breeds, put stupid fecking pet pictures up on a pet site,.

 

90% of all the borders I seen in my life (maybe 60, 70 over the years? somewhere inbetween) where all workers who grab the fox below ground to kill him. And 50 % made that kill.

but maybe I was lucky to be just on the right place in the right time to see it?

 

Bloody characters them

 

 

You are truly truly blessed to have witnessed such bullshit mate, nobody on this fecking planet has ever ever seen 60 or 70 Borders work never mind make a kill below ground, either that or you have come back as somebody else and you were around 200 fecking yrs ago, don't make me laugh with such statements you bellend.

[Guest stella]

i take it you prefer black terriers

[Guest mucker]

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

What is wrong with liking black terriers? A sturdy loyal dog that will die for his master in persuit of the varmint. JMO. I like black terriers though I also have a red fell and a black and tan.

[MJC 1]

these pups are not KC and not going for £300 and not shit dogs it might be my pet but she works so because it does not do fox it's not a working terrier GO FCUK YOURSELF SHAY

[wink hound 0]

perhaps you should look up what the word terrier means.

 

if a terrier does not work to ground then imho its is no more than a dog simple, any thing can chase around on top!! just due to the terriers working roots it makes them better at it, but that could soon disaper with poor breeding decisions.

 

still good luck with your pups and quest for knowledge mate.

 

wink

[targa 5]

Dont worry MJC, the last border I saw was a pure kc bred, never saw a fox before, and when we put him in front of a fox he stared at it for 10 seconds, then he grabbed it full hold in the upper jaw.

Give them the chance mate, they work. Whatever they say.

[Guest shay]

i take it you prefer black terriers

 

 

No mate, I keep two black one red and work a black and tan too, don't mind if they are pink so long as I can dig them and they are honest grafters,

 

Dont worry MJC, the last border I saw was a pure kc bred, never saw a fox before, and when we put him in front of a fox he stared at it for 10 seconds, then he grabbed it full hold in the upper jaw.

Give them the chance mate, they work. Whatever they say.

 

 

Partly the problem, if you call that work then no wonder a lot of Borders will work, I have a mate who breeds show shite borders and the one he uses as stud will definately grab hold and definately go to ground, but the useless fecker couldn't find in a phone box, wouldn't stay when the oven gets up to temperature and is more interested in ragging on top where he has plenty of room to move.

Edited January 20, 2007 by shay

[loftmonkey 2]

i know a lot of people working borders to fox week in week out locally to me. Some are gamekeepers and one lad does the digging for the local pack of foxhounds. I personally like the breed but still think that 90% are shite and so long as the other 10% stay in the hands of workers thats ok as they carry on breeding worker to worker. you could say the same has happened to russells and lakelands maybe not to the same extent but still a large per cent of them would not make top quality earth dogs.

[targa 5]

Shay, I know "shagging a fox above ground" is not working.

And the borders i saw stay below untill dig to. all of them, even when the oven was boiling like hell.

[targa 5]

"still a large per cent of them would not make top quality earth dogs"

As in every breed loftmonkey, whatever if they are "gould lines" or "nuttals" or...

people are masters in creating myth's and story's, and its easy to break a breed, but hard to make one.