Pre ban inverted snobbery

[Ideation 8,216]

I've noticed it a lot more in recent years, some lads think rabbiting is beneath them these days...

 

Since the ban, lamping foxes became 'cool' Didn't you get the memo?

[Bosun11 537]

Don't think the ban comes into it that much. It was same before. A man who's lurcher takes/took fox/deer would think his dog a better dog than the dog who only took rabbits. Like with terriers - folk who work below ground consider their animals, themselves and their form of hunting to be superior to those who just hunt rats/rabbits above ground. I think the thing is - either way, you shouldnt be worrying what the other mans dogs are doing, but just be content being out doing a bit.

 

Wise words mate, wise words...

[Simoman 110]

I guess to me its like an apprenticeship, you start off scratching around for small quarry and low numbers with crap dogs, you evolve learning more about the game, your dogs improve and your horizons broaden........

[NEWKID 27,159]

I'm starting back after a few years out of it and do it because i love being out with my dogs, I always did but couldn't find the time for a while. My love for the game was started as a kid catching rabbits, I still love catching rabbits, my little lad will learn how to catch rabbits. Over the years caught more than rabbits, but to get back into it I've got a rabbiting dog, I hope in years to come I don't lose sight of why I got into hunting in the first place

 

 

[whin 463]

more roe an hare than rabbs you had to travel for big rabbit numbers was never a snobbery thing it took a better dog to catch them singly were most mongrel lurchers will snap a rabbit up but not all lurchers will catch strong fast hare flat out on big slips , diffrent type of dog to do it regulary , rabbs to me is good fun a bit sport but not a true test for a lurcher , and as for terriers if they couldnt work to ground wouldnt have one only test for a true working terrier had some good terriers and bred some but alas freinds got them nowadays ,me personaly rabbits are for a bit sport and fun and game when it was legal was what i bred my dogs for

[whin 463]

lamping foxes to me if your protecting ground game etc is a must ,and if you chance one well get on with it but to go out for them pre ban was a waste of a nite or day , better left for terrier men ,or men with terriers ,ive always believed a dog has to prove itself onall sorts of edible game to become a good lurcher ,and if they knack alamb killer an added bonus but not the be all to end all

[Ideation 8,216]

I guess to me its like an apprenticeship, you start off scratching around for small quarry and low numbers with crap dogs, you evolve learning more about the game, your dogs improve and your horizons broaden........

 

 

But how many folk look back and realize that the dogs they had as young uns were a lot better than they realized at the time and were some of the best they ever had? Also for me it's not a linear line in terms of quarry size or difficulty, i think i get a different but equal pleasure from all kinds of quarry taken in all kinds of ways.

[whin 463]

i would say dogs in the last 15 years are better than 15 before it thats for sure maybe more game in certain areas 15 plus years ago but i would say dogs are better rnow than back in eighties etc ,beter breeding more accses to travel to get astud from agood dog miles away , as kids there were hundreds of hares now not so may so dog has to be sharper , ther emore roe nowadays badgers less hares rabbs way its went in some areas before the ban ypou had more time for daylite hunting i did and thought nothing of coursing three days aweek on roe hares etc now you have to be more careful and have agu with agun as a stalker and dogs for flushing ,best dog 15 years ago plus were liek d slieghts katie m chapmans bob sniper etc now with mobiles daft helicopters wildlife laisons silly sspcs yo have less time to go were ever so dogs have to be sharper ,

[whin 463]

dogs when we were young were just local best dog to bitch we ran them to hard at times as it was sniding with hares, travel has made better dogs more net working ,with other guys , the only reasom you caut more years ago at times was the laws for one and lamping in some parts was not popular ,had some very good dogs in nities but no were any better than 2 thousand era and eighties we had collie cross deerhound type which were fine but no beter than now and there were alot more hares 25 years ago for sure

[Red Collar 28]

Now obviously this is a historical question but just wondered, did the lads who only lamped and ferreted rabbits feel any less of a hunter than those whose dogs took the full spectrum of legal quarry..... Was there a hint of hunting "snobbery". I spent many many years scratching around for the odd bunny before moving onto bigger things yet I don't think it matters aslong as your getting out.........

I remember looking up to the older lads who wer getting out there, and listening to their stories while they sort of did look down on me.but I used to love bumping into them an we'd have a big bag of bunnies an a few hares haha they'd have feckall but a big bag of stories.they soon started knocking to go for a little walk with me dogs :tongue2:haha

[Red Collar 28]

dogs when we were young were just local best dog to bitch we ran them to hard at times as it was sniding with hares, travel has made better dogs more net working ,with other guys , the only reasom you caut more years ago at times was the laws for one and lamping in some parts was not popular ,had some very good dogs in nities but no were any better than 2 thousand era and eighties we had collie cross deerhound type which were fine but no beter than now and there were alot more hares 25 years ago for sure

I agree,you saying watt I thinking

[whin 463]

red i no you do mate not very often i open upon a subject ,but its true more hares years ago less eejits lamping them running them in young less foxes buzzards badgers more full time gamies who KEPT VERMIN DOWN FULL STOP another thing in the early ninties they had the setaside scheme hares lived rich cover food all in one feild now corn etc big money so tite to the hedge as they say with plough ,ive watch the country side change in last twenty plus years ,as for dogs i would say ninteis through to the ban was prime coursing time hare roe ,you could sell on the hoof no problem al legal ,dogs were well worked

[DEERMAN 1,020]

I think back to when i started at 13 with ferrets ,think i went 9 months from starting before i caught anything lol....we would go from 5am till dark and walk miles with just the stolen milk inside us lol ,and at best catch 3/4 rabbits.....i then got a terrier and went on to other things ,and then a lurcher and by the time i was 17/18 i was hunting all quarry......but i still think when i was 13 were some of my best times ..........i feel old now lol

[danw 1,748]

red i no you do mate not very often i open upon a subject ,but its true more hares years ago less eejits lamping them running them in young less foxes buzzards badgers more full time gamies who KEPT VERMIN DOWN FULL STOP another thing in the early ninties they had the setaside scheme hares lived rich cover food all in one feild now corn etc big money so tite to the hedge as they say with plough ,ive watch the country side change in last twenty plus years ,as for dogs i would say ninteis through to the ban was prime coursing time hare roe ,you could sell on the hoof no problem al legal ,dogs were well worked

 

Good post Whin, I think with the price of corn at the moment more ground will be lost to the plough this year

[kevin from bristol 95]

I was just happy getting taken out as a kid,after a while when the lad who took me.trusted me to keep my mouth shut and keep things to myself.he took me out after bigger stuff.an old irish boy who had a shoot near me.used to look down on us when he saw the lurchers and was always telling us to clear off.turned out i got talking to him and he invited me to do a bit beating on a saturday.was the start of me getting my shotgun certificate and led to me being taken grouse shooting on the 12th.met some proper snobby guys and directors of ici and bp.got to say i was a bit reserved being in thier company,but turned out they were really sound guys and spoke away no problem and didnt treat me any diffrent.had some great times back then and learned a lot from them.got bloodied from the old irish guy from a roe deer lol.obviously was more of joke,but came home chuffed none the less.

 

 

so your a snob ?