stormyboy 1,352 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Top tip-when using droppers,tie the back legs together,just to make sure. DO NOT break the legs-that would be cruel. why would anyone do that?? may aswell let the dog rag roadkill!!! Y'know-to give the dog a fair chance! Think about it-you go to all the trouble to catch it in the first place,then take it to the next county,in to the middle of a huge field,let it go-the dog misses! Choker! :sick: Quote Link to post
Red Collar 28 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 i hear what your all saying BUT at the same time lets think about the different circumstances surrounding dropped rabbits lets say ,for instance, that your ferreting in woodland and its impossible to net every hole on the burrow. you have a young dog out with you and the rabbits are bolting slow and few and far between but when the do bolt they are coming out the unnetted holes and getting down other holes faster than they came up!! the youngster is getting wound up and frustrated at seeing the rabbits and after an hour or so you finally get one into a net next to the field is a nice sized field, lovely and flat and about an acre size!! what you going to do?? take the pup home frustrated at working all day, missing rabbits and not getting a kill or take him home with a kill under his belt?? yes im all for taking them lamping on squatters and easy runs on early season rabbits, even lamping the ones with mixy before you drop rabbits, but this topic was about droppers were not all perfect so lets not pretend to be Internet, it feckin illegal lad haha and it not necessary if ye can't catch a feckin rabbit with ye dog give up alot of things are illegal but they still happen dropping a rabbit is no worse than parking on double yellow lines ive done it and in the real world im sure most have :thumbs:Still illegal so say feckall or don't do it Yes but bragging or talking about it on here is suicide ye joke,might aswell say badger or deer, illegal be illegal ye warned when ye join ye joke :icon_eek: no thats completely different and miles off the topic ye joke Quote Link to post
Catcher 1 639 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) Most of my pup,s never see a live rabbit until they are 10.11 or 12 month.Start them on cold retrieve from about five month.Some will be retrieving 100+ at this age.Seem,s to settle them down.More often than not.When the time comes for the live chase. allway,s bring them back live to hand. Edited January 23, 2011 by Catcher 1 Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Top tip-when using droppers,tie the back legs together,just to make sure. DO NOT break the legs-that would be cruel. that reminds me of a story many years ago.Some greyhound men used to buy rabbits from young ferreters at the track for a £3.00, to give the dogs a kill.Well anyway,guy that knocked about with my dads mate,had just got into the game and decided he was going to buy one to give the dog a kill.my dads mate told him the same thing "tie its back legs together,you dont want the dog charging around and picking up an injury".!so they agreed to meet the next day over the rugby park. my dad went down with his mate to see this dog get its kill.as they approached the guy was there with his mate.his mate dropped the rabbit,which my dad told me took off like a bat out of hell and dissapeared into the distance as the dog fell flat on its face.yup you guessed it,he had tied the dogs back legs with a graham high school tie my old man looked at his mate and said.never bring that silly c**t with you again to the racing. Quote Link to post
Guest INTERNET-HUNTER Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 Top tip-when using droppers,tie the back legs together,just to make sure. DO NOT break the legs-that would be cruel. why would anyone do that?? may aswell let the dog rag roadkill!!! Y'know-to give the dog a fair chance! Think about it-you go to all the trouble to catch it in the first place,then take it to the next county,in to the middle of a huge field,let it go-the dog misses! Choker! :sick: IF it misses it!!! what if it doesn't?? im just saying lets get real thats all Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 droppers are a throw back from the old greyhound men, whose expensive dogs would never have been allowed course in fear of injury, why any lurcher owner feels the need for it , i'll never know, no lurcher needs to get a kill, all it needs is to course and retrieve , thats all ,and when the time is right they all will, people who use droppers are clueless amatures in my book,,, the confidence people talk about ,is the dog finally realising he can get to use his drive on something ,which in my book is wrong because the handler should be the focus for his drive first,, Interesting reply. How should a handler be the focus for a dogs drive ? Cheers. the way i see it a pup dont know what he was born to do, but their all born with prey drive and its got to come out and in a lot of cases thats what get the dog into trouble i focus the pup on me as a way of using his drive from early, play tug , get him crazy bout a ball, all that stuff,,after a while pup will start bring stuff to you to play with but, this is the thing ,i always let the pup win in tug and never take a ball off him when he retrieves,all that bullshit bout not letting a dog win when playing tug is bullshit, it really increases the bond and makes the pup feel great to be round you ,that way he always wins and sees me as his best bud and an outlet for drive eventually progress on to a stage where anything the dog catch's is returned to me because that is where most fun is to had,,i would never introduce a pup to something exciting , unless he thought the sun shined out of my arse first,,thats all bud no big deal, best of luck,, Quote Link to post
Guest INTERNET-HUNTER Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 droppers are a throw back from the old greyhound men, whose expensive dogs would never have been allowed course in fear of injury, why any lurcher owner feels the need for it , i'll never know, no lurcher needs to get a kill, all it needs is to course and retrieve , thats all ,and when the time is right they all will, people who use droppers are clueless amatures in my book,,, the confidence people talk about ,is the dog finally realising he can get to use his drive on something ,which in my book is wrong because the handler should be the focus for his drive first,, Interesting reply. How should a handler be the focus for a dogs drive ? Cheers. the way i see it a pup dont know what he was born to do, but their all born with prey drive and its got to come out and in a lot of cases thats what get the dog into trouble i focus the pup on me as a way of using his drive from early, play tug , get him crazy bout a ball, all that stuff,,after a while pup will start bring stuff to you to play with but, this is the thing ,i always let the pup win in tug and never take a ball off him when he retrieves,all that bullshit bout not letting a dog win when playing tug is bullshit, it really increases the bond and makes the pup feel great to be round you ,that way he always wins and sees me as his best bud and an outlet for drive eventually progress on to a stage where anything the dog catch's is returned to me because that is where most fun is to had,,i would never introduce a pup to something exciting , unless he thought the sun shined out of my arse first,,thats all bud no big deal, best of luck,, can kind of see what your saying theres no book on how to train lurchers, its each to their own Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 if i had to drop rabbs for a dog ive bred , well i would had failed the dog full stop ,its about putting the dog in the [bANNED TEXT] position thtas the diffrencs from a real hunter who knows the score than people playing at the game I CALL IT GAME SENSE HUNTING KNOWLEDGE ,dropped rabbs are for dummies full stop .better netting them and letting him feel the fur in the net and as he grows heel soon learn whats what if BRED [bANNED TEXT] i can o ly think that adropper is for some one to lazy to ferret or go out therre way to get a easy catch with a cloddy pup ,or hasnt aclue on feild craft to put there dog in the [bANNED TEXT] position to cactch easy rabbs or hasnt acsses to easy catches ,we donr it as kids but never as adults Quote Link to post
Guest INTERNET-HUNTER Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 if i had to drop rabbs for a dog ive bred , well i would had failed the dog full stop ,its about putting the dog in the [bANNED TEXT] position thtas the diffrencs from a real hunter who knows the score than people playing at the game I CALL IT GAME SENSE HUNTING KNOWLEDGE ,dropped rabbs are for dummies full stop .better netting them and letting him feel the fur in the net and as he grows heel soon learn whats what if BRED [bANNED TEXT] i can o ly think that adropper is for some one to lazy to ferret or go out therre way to get a easy catch with a cloddy pup ,or hasnt aclue on feild craft to put there dog in the [bANNED TEXT] position to cactch easy rabbs or hasnt acsses to easy catches ,we donr it as kids but never as adults what if the dropper was caught while ferreting??? and you admitted you done it whin!! young or old, right or wrong you still did it at one point Quote Link to post
stormyboy 1,352 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 droppers are a throw back from the old greyhound men, whose expensive dogs would never have been allowed course in fear of injury, why any lurcher owner feels the need for it , i'll never know, no lurcher needs to get a kill, all it needs is to course and retrieve , thats all ,and when the time is right they all will, people who use droppers are clueless amatures in my book,,, the confidence people talk about ,is the dog finally realising he can get to use his drive on something ,which in my book is wrong because the handler should be the focus for his drive first,, Interesting reply. How should a handler be the focus for a dogs drive ? Cheers. the way i see it a pup dont know what he was born to do, but their all born with prey drive and its got to come out and in a lot of cases thats what get the dog into trouble i focus the pup on me as a way of using his drive from early, play tug , get him crazy bout a ball, all that stuff,,after a while pup will start bring stuff to you to play with but, this is the thing ,i always let the pup win in tug and never take a ball off him when he retrieves,all that bullshit bout not letting a dog win when playing tug is bullshit, it really increases the bond and makes the pup feel great to be round you ,that way he always wins and sees me as his best bud and an outlet for drive eventually progress on to a stage where anything the dog catch's is returned to me because that is where most fun is to had,,i would never introduce a pup to something exciting , unless he thought the sun shined out of my arse first,,thats all bud no big deal, best of luck,, Playing tug to teach retrieving? And letting the pup win-interesting........... Quote Link to post
Guest INTERNET-HUNTER Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 droppers are a throw back from the old greyhound men, whose expensive dogs would never have been allowed course in fear of injury, why any lurcher owner feels the need for it , i'll never know, no lurcher needs to get a kill, all it needs is to course and retrieve , thats all ,and when the time is right they all will, people who use droppers are clueless amatures in my book,,, the confidence people talk about ,is the dog finally realising he can get to use his drive on something ,which in my book is wrong because the handler should be the focus for his drive first,, Interesting reply. How should a handler be the focus for a dogs drive ? Cheers. the way i see it a pup dont know what he was born to do, but their all born with prey drive and its got to come out and in a lot of cases thats what get the dog into trouble i focus the pup on me as a way of using his drive from early, play tug , get him crazy bout a ball, all that stuff,,after a while pup will start bring stuff to you to play with but, this is the thing ,i always let the pup win in tug and never take a ball off him when he retrieves,all that bullshit bout not letting a dog win when playing tug is bullshit, it really increases the bond and makes the pup feel great to be round you ,that way he always wins and sees me as his best bud and an outlet for drive eventually progress on to a stage where anything the dog catch's is returned to me because that is where most fun is to had,,i would never introduce a pup to something exciting , unless he thought the sun shined out of my arse first,,thats all bud no big deal, best of luck,, Playing tug to teach retrieving? And letting the pup win-interesting........... Quote Link to post
whin 463 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 ye we did as 12 year olds but not with lurchers just terrier mongrel who was never going to catch a rabbit in his life ,but wouldnt dream of it with a lurcher and thats what we are talking about i think running dogs ,nowaday we have good lampa you can travel only lazy people or people who think thta droppers make adog good it doesnt i have saw cloddy pups who would never catch arabbit but were not bred for rabbs etc ,never hear of anybody with decent running dogs letting rabbs fo better bolting them with ferrets and nets or even just dont ppeg net rabbit makes a run but gets baulked dog gets his grab as they say get real mate Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 (edited) ye we did as 12 year olds but not with lurchers just terrier mongrel who was never going to catch a rabbit in his life ,but wouldnt dream of it with a lurcher and thats what we are talking about i think running dogs ,nowaday we have good lampa you can travel only lazy people or people who think thta droppers make adog good it doesnt i have saw cloddy pups who would never catch arabbit but were not bred for rabbs etc ,never hear of anybody with decent running dogs letting rabbs fo better bolting them with ferrets and nets or even just dont ppeg net rabbit makes a run but gets baulked dog gets his grab as they say get real mate droppin rabbits or misusin equipment an standing watching a bunny fumble about, when ye should be doin your upmost to kill it as quickly an humanely as possible whats the diffrence?????????????? should practise what ye preach ole yin Edited January 23, 2011 by DottyDoo Quote Link to post
DottyDoo 500 Posted January 23, 2011 Report Share Posted January 23, 2011 explain what????????/ you just said droppin a rabbit is wrong............. but ye said its okay to mis set a net so the rabbit gets to run but aint goin anywhere fast all tangled up????? so wheres the natural circumstances in that ffs Quote Link to post
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