PLUMMER TERRIER OF OLD

[fat man 4,741]

pic's on the internet classic, i'll keep my little crossbreds to myself, pictures prove nothing, dog ragging a fox covered in dirt doesn't mean the dogs worked it just means someone took a picture of a terrier covered in mud raging a fox

Your dead right ive had 4month old pups rag dead foxs

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

If not pics then would one of you wonder boys be available to bring your little hopefuls to Wiltshire for a dig .I have enough land to dig all day and we can avoid the deep ones .Any takers?

[fireman 11,031]

Just read through this and don't you doubter's see why folks who do do a bit with their plummers don't bother posting about what they do ,every thread just goes the same way"they can't be dug to or it's there all shite".I used to post about what i did with my bitch but i even had shit with other plummer owners over posting about digging with a plummer,ffs most of the plummer sites don't even allow digging pics so how do they help the breed feck knows,ones even called "the working plumm can't even be arsed to write it's name .But anyway those of you with plummers that do a bit keep up the good work and feck them all,makes me fecking laugh when i dig to mine or even being asked to "run your plummer through" earths after other terriers have been tried "just to make sure" as they all say it can't be or shouldn't be done :laugh: .

[moddey-dhoo 39]

sorry I'm a wonder boy, you condescending who died and made you god , some people can keep and work dogs without seeking fame or the approval of self confessed expert just sick of little clicks lording it over the Internet

 

its about vermin control, enjoying a working dogs its not a contest,these pages are just full of misinformation from a bunch of back slapping egos

Edited January 25, 2011 by moddey-dhoo

[fireman 11,031]

I just got 3/4 of the way through a post saying i'd be up for your offer mate,then i reread it and see you call us "wonder boys".Well how the feck is someone ment to reply to a post like that? and i myself will decline your loaded offer.

[Alli 923]

Im all for giving a man a fair hearing ,honestly i am but these threads on plummers always go the same way -no pics of dogs working to ground ,no pics of dogs recently worked to ground ,not even a plummer with soil on its back .The time has come for you devotees to get busy with the camera and dispell the doubters .Its no wonder its open season when a thread starts. Why not just admit that its a messers dog and be done with it .The other threads on any other breed are full of working pics but not so the plummers.

I stick by my words that no keen dogman keeps a plummer as no plummer is keen to work .

WELL I MUST SAY IME NOT A LOVER OF PLUMMERS. IVE BIN OUT WITH SOME GUYS WHO OWN THESE SO CALLED 100PCT DIGGING PLUMMERS ONE OF THESE GUYS EVEN WENT INTO GREAT DETALE ON HOW 1 OF HIS BITCHES PULLED ITS QUARRY OUT WITH ITS HEAD, AT 12MTS OLD, IVE SEEN THIS VERY SAME BITCH REFUSE A FOX [sTRANGE] THERE A STRANGE BREED, NO NOT THE DOGS BUT THERE OWNERS, ITS THEM THAT BIG THERE DOGS, ITS ASHAME, THERE IS A FEW PLUMMERS OUT THERE BUT NOT MANY THAT CAN GO THE DISTANCE, BUT CREDIT WHERE CREDIDS DEW, THIS YOUNG LAD CAME OUT WITH ME A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH HIS LITTLE PLUMMER BITCH, IT WAS A SHALLOW FAST DIG WITH A GOOD RESULT FOR HIS BITCH, EVEN SO I WOULDENT WANT 1. THE LAD IS NOW THINKING OF CHANGING HIS BREED OF TERRIER, THINK HE WILL BREAK AWAY FROM THE PLUMMER CLAN COS HES KEEN AS FCK NOW HES HAD A COUPLE A DIGS TO OTHER BREEDS,

[terrierman.northeast 1]

Is this the plummer your talking about

 

''hi my plummer has recently lost interest in going to ground, although he's game to work at ground when there's a number of dogs present, anyone got any ideas to get him back in the game working fox solo''

thank you ryan

 

 

I hope not.

It is funny c**t, I'll be honest had a bad turn the other season but going strong again

 

THANK YOU !

[J Darcy 5,871]

[Cleanspade 3,324]

i went through haf a dozen shite russells before i got a half decent one.ive seen more shite patts than good one's and thats the truth. there is a culture on the www that it makes your breed better by slateing other breeds. so crack on. some plummers will work to ground better than some patts or russells and thats a fact. i dont own a good plummer earthdog. but i do own one thats better than a lot of so called working patts or russells. doesnt say much for those breeds does it there are some very good lines of terriers of all breeds. generally owned by salt of the earth sorts. that will give credit to individual animals regardless of breed.

or cross.

 

ans as an afterthought i would be more worried about the poodle crosses getting into the genepool if i was a patterdale enthusiast.

[dai dogs 1,681]

heres a pic of an old dog that was as good as ANY BREED OF TERRIER.

you well never see this type of PLUMMER terrier again.... FACT..

Tell us more Dai.

the dog in the pic was about twice the weight of the plummer terriers you see today.

you could not span him unless you had hands like jiganto . he looked more like a bull blooded battle scared cur that ruled the streets than a working terrier.

would hunt like a beagle his scenting ability was so acute he would pass over unoccupied earths not giving them a second glance.

once a occupied earth was located there was no holding back if he got to his fox he would dispatch it.

if he could not reach it he would stay till dug to.

iv owned 12 plummer terriers and only one came close to as good as this dog. looking back i wish i had owned him i would of kept his line going strong. if anyone owns anything like this old dog could you put some pics up please.

cheers dai

[Jamie m 668]

So what was it's name dia ??

[skinner 348]

they are kept hidden the crosses and those bred down from them just look like any other fell/russell mix producing all colors with white, And why not bring books into it, they are after all just one mans point of view on other mens opinions, and most don't do any research just go on hear say, and you did your best when there was a plummer witch hunt why do you hate so much ?

 

Hearsay? Nope I speak from experience. You see, i used to own one. And i have been out with a few lads who have owned them. And, yes, i was present , taking pics and with the shovel, when that famous 'brother of nine' was tried to ground. :sick: Another example of how the 'plummer scene' is always 'just adding this, or that'.

Christ, havent they been around for over three decades now, you would have thought if they had been so good at earth work there would be plenty getting dug to regularly...

But, just for the record, i don't hate them....i think its all rather funny...I really do.

got to agree with you here

 

You see, this internet its so easy to come across all 'Billy Big Bollocks'...one example...

Many moons ago on the old , old Moochers there was a certain fellow who's pair of plummers would, and i quote, 'dig anything, anywhere'.

Well i was much younger then and treat the internet with niavity, so i went out for a morning with this chap. He turned up with both terriers on gundog slips and no locator. Upon asking how he would locate the terrier he said they would bolt the fox. HHmmm....thinks I. But what if the fox won't bolt, i asked. To which the reply was "oh they always come out in the end" and yes, 'they' as in plural.

 

Anyways,

[Squirrel_Basher 17,100]

Im all for giving a man a fair hearing ,honestly i am but these threads on plummers always go the same way -no pics of dogs working to ground ,no pics of dogs recently worked to ground ,not even a plummer with soil on its back .The time has come for you devotees to get busy with the camera and dispell the doubters .Its no wonder its open season when a thread starts. Why not just admit that its a messers dog and be done with it .The other threads on any other breed are full of working pics but not so the plummers.

I stick by my words that no keen dogman keeps a plummer as no plummer is keen to work .

WELL I MUST SAY IME NOT A LOVER OF PLUMMERS. IVE BIN OUT WITH SOME GUYS WHO OWN THESE SO CALLED 100PCT DIGGING PLUMMERS THERE A STRANGE BREED, NO NOT THE DOGS BUT THERE OWNERS, ITS THEM THAT BIG THERE DOGS.

In a nut shell mate .Maybe we could have a plummer verses poodle bushing thread .Makes me laugh that one of you plummer lads turned my offer down purely on the wonder boy jibe . Maybe you should have your own subforum where bollocks can be talked freely all day and non workers can be compared without slatings.The fact that there are good and bad in all types pales into insignificance when we look at the bad within the plummer farming and a good one is the rare exception rather than the rule.

Personally i would love to see one do well underground .What gets me and a lot of others is the hype ,in the past ,that these dogs are the real deal and not just yappy ratters .

What swayed my veiws at an early age was an uncles visit to D B plummers kennels ,with a veiw to buying a pup amid the hype that surrounded them and the tales of filth and neglect that he told me about on his return.Plummer was, adament that day,that his dogs worked to ground but turned down the polite offer [no wagers or threats] of a day out locally at his convenience to demonstrate this fact ,nor could he remember the last time any of his dogs went to ground .He did however show a pup a rat in a trap in an attempt to impress my uncle but tried in vain to persude him that the pup was out of a bitch that had obviously never had pups .So you see ,unless the breed has undergone miraculous changes for the better since its so called peak when plummer was alive then you boys are on a hiding to nothing .I along with other men im sure have no problem with bushing dogs ,ratters call them what you like as long as that is what they ARE called and nothing else .

[averagec 1]

How many digs do these "digging" plummers get a season? 20? 30?.What kind of numbers are we talking .And i KNOW one persons REAL answer

[Millet 4,497]

A friend of a friend has had a origional one for nearly 13yrs,this dog has led a very productive life and is still going strong be it only on the rats be he still kills good numbers every year.