tinytiger 835 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 heres a pic of an old dog that was as good as ANY BREED OF TERRIER. you well never see this type of PLUMMER terrier again.... FACT.. IF ONLY. DAYS GONE BY NEVER WILL THE WORKING [EARTH DOG] PLUMMER SINGLE HANDED DOG BISTOW US AGAIN, NICE PICTURE youd be surprised alli,ive a bitch here thats having a very good season,not the best bitch in the country by any means or even in my kennell,doing the job though,had a few digs to a 11 month 3/4 bred son of her as well lately-coming on very well the dog in the picture is a fine strong looking dog,if plummers are lacking some quality then maybe an outcross of good digging patterdale blood is what they need..Im sure there are plenty plummer terriers out there well capable of making good earth dogs but people who are into digging generally keep patterdales.. Quote Link to post
terrierman.northeast 1 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 heres a pic of an old dog that was as good as ANY BREED OF TERRIER. you well never see this type of PLUMMER terrier again.... FACT.. IF ONLY. DAYS GONE BY NEVER WILL THE WORKING [EARTH DOG] PLUMMER SINGLE HANDED DOG BISTOW US AGAIN, NICE PICTURE I have a little plummer bitch up in the kennells coming up to 5 year old that i will dig anything with! Not very often she wount see the job through! she struggles with her size sometimes tho I wouldn't sware by plummers BUT I would sware by mine, great little earth dog, to be honest the only one I've seen work well to ground, not being big headed or anything give me a shout if you need her lining with a Plummer that'll work earths mate Quote Link to post
pernod 466 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Is this the plummer your talking about ''hi my plummer has recently lost interest in going to ground, although he's game to work at ground when there's a number of dogs present, anyone got any ideas to get him back in the game working fox solo'' thank you ryan I hope not. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Is this the plummer your talking about ''hi my plummer has recently lost interest in going to ground, although he's game to work at ground when there's a number of dogs present, anyone got any ideas to get him back in the game working fox solo'' thank you ryan I hope not. OOppss...... Quick, get it over a bitch.... Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 ,if plummers are lacking some quality then maybe an outcross of good digging patterdale blood is what they need..Im sure there are plenty plummer terriers out there well capable of making good earth dogs but people who are into digging generally keep patterdales.. Why pollute a good digging patterdale with shi7 plummer blood?? Isnt there enough crap out there in the terrier world without breeding more? Quote Link to post
moddey-dhoo 39 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) ,if plummers are lacking some quality then maybe an outcross of good digging patterdale blood is what they need..Im sure there are plenty plummer terriers out there well capable of making good earth dogs but people who are into digging generally keep patterdales.. Why pollute a good digging patterdale with shi7 plummer blood?? Isnt there enough crap out there in the terrier world without breeding more? QUICK get another book written do as i say, not as i do there are still a few good kennels of plummers and x's out there but these days no one writes about them a good thing as most terrier scribes are full of and just out to make money from the sport a cracking looking dog Dai, there was a lot of putty nosed ones around before the show mob Edited January 25, 2011 by moddey-dhoo Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 ,if plummers are lacking some quality then maybe an outcross of good digging patterdale blood is what they need..Im sure there are plenty plummer terriers out there well capable of making good earth dogs but people who are into digging generally keep patterdales.. Why pollute a good digging patterdale with shi7 plummer blood?? Isnt there enough crap out there in the terrier world without breeding more? QUICK get another book written do as i say, not as i do there are still a few good kennels of plummers and x's out there but these days no one writes about them a good thing as most terrier scribes are full of and just out to make money from the sport a cracking looking dog Dai, there was a lot of putty nosed ones around before the show mob Ok MD, If Plummers are so good, then why are the working (and i use that term loosely) ones always 'plummer crosses' wheres all these 'pure' digging dogs??? Why bring books into it? I thought this thread is about plummer terriers?. And yes, i have seen a few, including the 'famous' litter that was 1/2 bull. :sick: Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 ,if plummers are lacking some quality then maybe an outcross of good digging patterdale blood is what they need..Im sure there are plenty plummer terriers out there well capable of making good earth dogs but people who are into digging generally keep patterdales.. Why pollute a good digging patterdale with shi7 plummer blood?? Isnt there enough crap out there in the terrier world without breeding more? QUICK get another book written do as i say, not as i do there are still a few good kennels of plummers and x's out there but these days no one writes about them a good thing as most terrier scribes are full of and just out to make money from the sport a cracking looking dog Dai, there was a lot of putty nosed ones around before the show mob Ok MD, If Plummers are so good, then why are the working (and i use that term loosely) ones always 'plummer crosses' wheres all these 'pure' digging dogs??? Why bring books into it? I thought this thread is about plummer terriers?. And yes, i have seen a few, including the 'famous' litter that was 1/2 bull. :sick: I can answer that mate .The plummers used today are ,i guarantee ,not worked very often therefore a few digs turns into an unbeatable dog.Anybody serious about earthwork would not contemplate a plummer in the first place ,fact . Ps please dont contaminate any black dogs with this shit as we can do without it . Quote Link to post
moddey-dhoo 39 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 they are kept hidden the crosses and those bred down from them just look like any other fell/russell mix producing all colors with white, And why not bring books into it, they are after all just one mans point of view on other mens opinions, and most don't do any research just go on hear say, and you did your best when there was a plummer witch hunt why do you hate so much ? Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 I know of a 11 yr old dog still being dug to regular, no not mine mines only about 9 and spends weeks healing as he trying killing every thing he encounters. so hasnt had a dig this yr , infact was still recovering from early december. Quote Link to post
Big bald beautiful 1,231 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 hand on heart mine is the only fox digging out of 6 or 7 that were entered, i did have a good bitch that was as good but sadly had a lot of crap and non were rushed in or over faced, infact probably treated with too much kids gloves. if you want a digging dog then by black, but as a ratting terrier that you may dig to then you could drop lucky. the trouble with a lot of plummer owners they will not admit they have bred or bought shit that wouldnt go. Quote Link to post
J Darcy 5,871 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 they are kept hidden the crosses and those bred down from them just look like any other fell/russell mix producing all colors with white, And why not bring books into it, they are after all just one mans point of view on other mens opinions, and most don't do any research just go on hear say, and you did your best when there was a plummer witch hunt why do you hate so much ? Hearsay? Nope I speak from experience. You see, i used to own one. And i have been out with a few lads who have owned them. And, yes, i was present , taking pics and with the shovel, when that famous 'brother of nine' was tried to ground. :sick: Another example of how the 'plummer scene' is always 'just adding this, or that'. Christ, havent they been around for over three decades now, you would have thought if they had been so good at earth work there would be plenty getting dug to regularly... But, just for the record, i don't hate them....i think its all rather funny...I really do. You see, this internet its so easy to come across all 'Billy Big Bollocks'...one example... Many moons ago on the old , old Moochers there was a certain fellow who's pair of plummers would, and i quote, 'dig anything, anywhere'. Well i was much younger then and treat the internet with niavity, so i went out for a morning with this chap. He turned up with both terriers on gundog slips and no locator. Upon asking how he would locate the terrier he said they would bolt the fox. HHmmm....thinks I. But what if the fox won't bolt, i asked. To which the reply was "oh they always come out in the end" and yes, 'they' as in plural. Anyways, Quote Link to post
moddey-dhoo 39 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 fair enough you seen a few not work, so all from all the lines are shit? I've seen a few from that line of springer x you keep be a yard or two back do i think that line is shit , no i don't because in every line there is good and bad and some lads couldn't get a rabbit to go to ground, sorry if I've spoken out of terms,i don't like to mess with experts such as yourself :not-worthy: its not easy for us non-authors 1 Quote Link to post
Squirrel_Basher 17,100 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Im all for giving a man a fair hearing ,honestly i am but these threads on plummers always go the same way -no pics of dogs working to ground ,no pics of dogs recently worked to ground ,not even a plummer with soil on its back .The time has come for you devotees to get busy with the camera and dispell the doubters .Its no wonder its open season when a thread starts. Why not just admit that its a messers dog and be done with it .The other threads on any other breed are full of working pics but not so the plummers. I stick by my words that no keen dogman keeps a plummer as no plummer is keen to work . Quote Link to post
moddey-dhoo 39 Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 pic's on the internet classic, i'll keep my little crossbreds to myself, pictures prove nothing, dog ragging a fox covered in dirt doesn't mean the dogs worked it just means someone took a picture of a terrier covered in mud raging a fox 1 Quote Link to post
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