Daytime and Nighttime. . .

[Mick C. 229]

Does anyone have a dog thats a good lamp dog (well behaved) that runs the beam, comes straight back when light is knocked off etc, but is also a good day time hunting dog that uses its nose to hunt and find game, work cover etc?

 

 

If the recall has become second nature there should not be a problem, providing the dog has a steady nature.

 

I started my youngster by doing a bit of ferreting.Although most nights i was on the playing fields training him to pick up and retreive a dummy on the lamp

I think this method has now started to pay off.

 

He hunts up is own rabbits in daytime but also knows what is required when taken out at night..no hunting up.

 

However bushing is not one of is strong points he is a bit to big for that.

 

At first i had visions of training him as a lamping dog only but hopefully a specialist.Im so glad i didnt now.

 

In my opinion these dogs are more than capable of carrying out a multitude of tasks.

[whip x grey 276]

MY white parti runs daytime ,, rabbits only,,,less time on lamp but stays to heal,,on command run lamp catch or miss , retrives or if misses comes back to me ,,,but i dont have to turn off lamp,,he just looks to me for next run,,,he,s a racer

 

so surly if he does that ,,,,most lurcher,s that would be the norm,,,as they are brought up that way as pup,s,,,and good handler will make sure off that with the exceptions off some hunting dogs are just a pain to train

 

if iam honest ,,,i reckon if my racer didnt stay in house,and deal with me 24/7 as he sleeps at bottom off my bed,,,,,if kenneled up he would not have been so biddable as a racing breed,,,,and went gun hoo on me after prey,,,if that make,s sence which to alot off folk ,wont

 

 

No to the first bit and yes to the second. Just my opinion tho.

 

everyones opinion diffrent,,,and i respect that ( dog,s are diffrent ,,,owners opinion,s should also be diffrent the way it should be

 

 

Aye thats right mate - shouldnt spend life trying to convert everyone to one view. I think what i do because i have seen very good obediant steady lamp dogs be taken off lamping for say a year and given lots and lots and lots of daytime hunting (not ferreting) which they took to and excelled at and then when put back on the lamp a year later they use their nose A LOT. And i have seen some GREAT lamp dogs that couldnt find quarry in a phone box if someone didnt stick a light on it.

 

 

we have a little joke in racing world,,,some dogs cant catch hare in phone box

 

for me as x keeper,,,comes to lamping,,,i do look at it as a needs to a must,,,but daytime is my passion in hunting ,,( but dont get me wrong lamping is a great thing,,,i did my share shooting or use dogs,,,but as a sportsman i seen it as a cheat ),,,,if i wasnt gamekeeper when younger and more off a daytime dog man i think i would have been a hare man , poacher , and had a match dog,s type,s (no gun , nothing just me and my sighthoud or working dog x sighthound i,e lurcher ),,,but only because i was into the job and sport not really the numbers and life style,,,but unfurtuntly boss wanted numbers , i,e lamping produced number,s in the killing feild ,,,IAM A abit old school as 100,years ago they went for pot,,,they didnt have 2 million candle power lamp,s with battery ( or night vision ) ,,,,dog,s just did what they did ( THEY BROUGHT THE TEA HOME ),,,,but iam abit excentric sort off guy

[Simoman 110]

In a nutshell yes....

[Ideation 8,216]

Does anyone have a dog thats a good lamp dog (well behaved) that runs the beam, comes straight back when light is knocked off etc, but is also a good day time hunting dog that uses its nose to hunt and find game, work cover etc?

 

 

If the recall has become second nature there should not be a problem, providing the dog has a steady nature.

 

I started my youngster by doing a bit of ferreting.Although most nights i was on the playing fields training him to pick up and retreive a dummy on the lamp

I think this method has now started to pay off.

 

He hunts up is own rabbits in daytime but also knows what is required when taken out at night..no hunting up.

 

However bushing is not one of is strong points he is a bit to big for that.

 

At first i had visions of training him as a lamping dog only but hopefully a specialist.Im so glad i didnt now.

 

In my opinion these dogs are more than capable of carrying out a multitude of tasks.

 

Its a good way to do it. Where i live alas from the first time pup leave the box and go outside they will smell/see game. Can't take them outside off lead without a chase ensuing. When they are young.

[Mick C. 229]

Does anyone have a dog thats a good lamp dog (well behaved) that runs the beam, comes straight back when light is knocked off etc, but is also a good day time hunting dog that uses its nose to hunt and find game, work cover etc?

 

 

If the recall has become second nature there should not be a problem, providing the dog has a steady nature.

 

I started my youngster by doing a bit of ferreting.Although most nights i was on the playing fields training him to pick up and retreive a dummy on the lamp

I think this method has now started to pay off.

 

He hunts up is own rabbits in daytime but also knows what is required when taken out at night..no hunting up.

 

However bushing is not one of is strong points he is a bit to big for that.

 

At first i had visions of training him as a lamping dog only but hopefully a specialist.Im so glad i didnt now.

 

In my opinion these dogs are more than capable of carrying out a multitude of tasks.

 

Its a good way to do it. Where i live alas from the first time pup leave the box and go outside they will smell/see game. Can't take them outside off lead without a chase ensuing. When they are young.

[Mick C. 229]

I know what you mean.

 

Its hard enough putting up with dog scent let alone game.

 

[TOMO 26,435]

Lots of lurchers out there will do both,,, i put a few film clips up of my Tara hunting up rabbits,, and ferreting,,and youv all seen the lamping pics

[Ideation 8,216]

Lots of lurchers out there will do both,,, i put a few film clips up of my Tara hunting up rabbits,, and ferreting,,and youv all seen the lamping pics

 

 

Good example tomo. But which one do you think she is best at? Whats her 'thing'? And which do you reckon she enjoys most? And you?

[TOMO 26,435]

Lots of lurchers out there will do both,,, i put a few film clips up of my Tara hunting up rabbits,, and ferreting,,and youv all seen the lamping pics

 

 

Good example tomo. But which one do you think she is best at? Whats her 'thing'? And which do you reckon she enjoys most? And you?

 

good question, i lamp more, or i have these last couple of seasons,,, i realy like to watch the dog hunting up its own quarry though. which is she best at ???

[moonlighter 1,164]

Most dogs will work day and night, but its most probally the owners who have the preference, not the dogs. Odvioslly if the dog is doing one thing a lot more often than than the other then it will pick that up quicker. A lot of coursing lads i know dont even own a lamp so there dogs are solely daytime, even though they would proballly make good lamping dogs given the chance. The reason some dont lamp is because of the greater risk of injury at night. (in my dogs 75% of accidents have happened at night) and many dont want to risk missing a days coursing because it took a knock a few nights previous.

[Tyla 3,179]

Interesing post, mine ferret, mooch and lamp because i do. They know the difference and what is expected of them depending on what we are doing. Although they do both one is by far the better ferreter while the other is better on the lamp. Bushing wise they work very well although only one will enter cover, thats not a bad thing though as i have a terrier for that and want the lurchers on the outside ready, not stuck inside the bush, when something flushes. I wouldnt like to be restricted in my hunting by only having specalist dogs, what would happen if your lamping dog is laid up and its the perfect night? Do you stay at home because you dont want to use your daytime or ferreting dog?

[whin 463]

ideation your having a laugh a dog that does both got saluk crosses here and collie types that do both for the past 2 decades and more ,i thought that was a lurcher , what kinda dogs you used to seeing ,when it was legal i thought nowt of going for a first lite hunt with dog , on any qauury , after that take a ferret bolt a few have a rest and go out lamping with same dogs ,still got dogs of that standard ,

[deanflute 550]

My bitch will do both, Lamping at night she will come back with either a rabbit to hand or if she's not caught anything comes back pretty much when I turn the lamp off or if she knows she's lost it, Daytime she will hunt up and has a great nose on fur and feather, She'll enter cover with no hesitation. Just yesterday she knocked a hare out of thick brambles in a wood and gave it a good run over the fields but luckily she didn't catch it because that would be illegal and with people walking on footpaths that wouldn't have been good!

She's brilliant around the ferrets and will mark up

I'm not saying she is a world beater, Some days/nights we come home with nothing after missing what I would call easy runs and other times she'll catch on what I would call hard runs with ease but that doesn't matter to me as I'm not a numbers man and it's just nice to be out

[john* 17]

my dog deos both day an night an really good recall on both them an he hunts during the day well

[Ideation 8,216]

ideation your having a laugh a dog that does both got saluk crosses here and collie types that do both for the past 2 decades and more ,i thought that was a lurcher , what kinda dogs you used to seeing ,when it was legal i thought nowt of going for a first lite hunt with dog , on any qauury , after that take a ferret bolt a few have a rest and go out lamping with same dogs ,still got dogs of that standard ,

 

 

Whin do everyone a favour and read through the f*****g threads rather than just looking for opportunities to tell everyone how good the dogs you had 'back in the day' were. The point i was trying to make was simply that most dogs will lean toward one discipline even if entered and worked at many. Like you i have seen saluki x's that lamped, ferreted etc, but they were truly made for running a good hare on big land and this is what the excelled at.