middleton terriers

[BBB 7]

there is no way i would give a £1000 for a terrier it could be a cruft's champion wi 24 carat gold teeth and i wouldnt pay that. but that's how thing are going nowaday's even ferret's are goin for a £100 it's a fockin joke. i think it is hard for guy's who make a name for em selves not to become dog dealerish . people turning up wanting to throw money at ye. it's human nature to take it. though it is wrong . over the year's i'v owned and grafted hard. parkes, nuttall,wheeler and sealyham's as well as dog's with no known bloodline. so called border /lakeland's which by the way have gone better than any of the mentioned strain. parkes's dog's were over hard and took week's to heal.and were pretty late starter's, nuttall's a bit yappy though i have seen very game un's, wheeler's good but no better than any other's, sealyham's game but to be honest not my thing. the best dog's i have owned or seen have been unknown strain ruff n ready border lakey types. i keep see folk sayin game . what we talkin here to me a game dog will find it's quarry stay till dug to .and at the end of the dig draw .without getting hammered. a dog that goes in a get's leathered and is laid up for week's is not game it's braindead . all the above mentioned stain's were got directly from the horse's mouth . not some piss pot guy floggin dog's claiming they were the mentioned strain's.

[Guest blackntan]

there is no way i would give a £1000 for a terrier it could be a cruft's champion wi 24 carat gold teeth and i wouldnt pay that. but that's how thing are going nowaday's even ferret's are goin for a £100 it's a fockin joke. i think it is hard for guy's who make a name for em selves not to become dog dealerish . people turning up wanting to throw money at ye. it's human nature to take it. though it is wrong . over the year's i'v owned and grafted hard. parkes, nuttall,wheeler and sealyham's as well as dog's with no known bloodline. so called border /lakeland's which by the way have gone better than any of the mentioned strain. parkes's dog's were over hard and took week's to heal.and were pretty late starter's, nuttall's a bit yappy though i have seen very game un's, wheeler's good but no better than any other's, sealyham's game but to be honest not my thing. the best dog's i have owned or seen have been unknown strain ruff n ready border lakey types. i keep see folk sayin game . what we talkin here to me a game dog will find it's quarry stay till dug to .and at the end of the dig draw .without getting hammered. a dog that goes in a get's leathered and is laid up for week's is not game it's braindead . all the above mentioned stain's were got directly from the horse's mouth . not some piss pot guy floggin dog's claiming they were the mentioned strain's.

HE SELLS HORSES TOO, GM WAS DIGGING AND WORKING TERRIERS WHILE HALF OF YOU WERE STILL SHXTING YELLOW HE HAS NOWT TO PROVE TO ANY ONE THEM THAT KNOW KNOW, ALL THE NAMES GET BANDED ABOUT ON HERE , HOW DID YOU ALL GET TO KNOW THE NAMES, BOOKS YOU ALL READ THEM , WETHER YOU BELEAVE THEM ITS UP TO YOU , LIKE GOULDY MIDDLETON IS A CHARACTOR , SOME ONE ELSE HAS ALLREADY SAID IT A FOOL AND HIS MONEY IS EASY PARTED, ANY ONE ON HERE EVER SEE THE FILM THE YEARLING WATCH IT AND LEARN , HORSES, DOGS,YOU PAYS YOUR MONEY YOU TAKES YOUR CHANCE, REPUTATIONS ARE LIKE THE WEATHER SOME TIMES GOOD SOME TIMES BAD

[lakeman 12]

a dog bred by me (now 2 1/2) that goes back to middleton, i've got no complaints.....

Edited March 12, 2010 by lakeman

[wazza 18]

a dog bred by me (now 2 1/2) that goes back to middleton, i've got no complaints.....

i got a middleton pup well middleton wardy gonna make a gud show dog and hopefully work but took it out ferreting the ferret went in the bushes the pup went after it old dog looked at me as if 2 say wat the hells going i pegged old dog out went in search of em the pup cudnt get the ferret but now wants 2 kill every ferret shes sees gonna make a gud worker nowt scares her .

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

There ya have it, from feret killer to good worker!

[lakeman 12]

and another one bred by me from the same line..

[lakieman 25]

nice dogs last time i asked you if there was middleton blood in them you said no stobart ward i think it was

[lakeman 12]

nice dogs last time i asked you if there was middleton blood in them you said no stobart ward i think it was

 

 

 

goes back a fair way, back to rex(1), red judy and judy (border) but many generations ago.... as well as Middleton's Tanner, Ward's pipper and Ward's Vandal,.......... Tyson's Mocky is in there too

[cumbye 36]

middleton,gould,nuttall,brightmore, parkes and many others, they have all i believe sold rubbish for cash at some time in their lives, maybe not absolutely out of absolute ruthless greed but have sold substandard stuff because a buyer was waiting with money in hand??? gary used to have some good dogs. dr (owner of blackjack) once told me that garys old stuff was some of best in country until the blacks came along. likewise pb s mccoy was half old middletonblood out of a renown digging dog. howver gary has bred mainly for shows in last twenty years and so of course working ability has suffered. he has also unfortunately gained a steady and growing reputation fo selling rubbish at hugely inflated pricesto the unwary in my experience. i have personally known and bought dogs from all the above (or from dogs drectly from their blood in the case of middleton) over the years and for me there is a definite trend emerged which goes like this: worst dog dealer of all selling alot of the time = nuttall (ihave heard absolutely uncountable tales of rubbish sold by him to numerous dog men which would not work to any kind of acceptable standard,he oncetold a teenage naive terrier man to breed from his useless, non working nuttall bitch and he would get his money back for him by selling pups onto unsuspecting doglads, and i KNOW THIS IS TRUE CAUSE I WAS THE TEENAGE LAD!!!) best stock sold over a continuous breeding career, therefore best value and chance of getting a genuine digging dog= gould by far. saddest loss of working ability over last twenty years,(due to show influence?)= middleton. i will end this personal ramble by seeking to qualify my conclusions: ask around about the best terriers your friends have seen over years ( i bet they are out of old gouldy blood,or more recently poss. spartacus blood), also ask them about nuttall blood, most will be unsure, or be sure most was rubbish off nuttall, or will quote a good one off another breeder who has refined and culled the strain (ie g.mason, d.wheeler) also log onto some of the other websites abroad and you will see a wealth of enquiries regarding nuttall strain working ability( the worlds full of confused nuttal owning terrier men who are trying to kid themselves a poor dog is better than it is!!!)by comparison there are virtually non re mr gould (everybody sort of knows they are good stuff, right?????) anyway all the best and lets all keep it honest.

 

Your talking out of your ass man!!!

Nuttall is one of the few genuine terriermen left,i have had his lines for the last 30 year's and i've never had a none-worker off him,and as im a hunt-terrierman my living depend's on my dog's being up to scratch!

If a pure Nuttall does'nt enter it's probably because of the bloody amature on the end of the couples!!!!!!

Me too.

hunt terrierman for 16 seasons and amature about the same,nuttall strain mixed with buck/bray and other proven workers has always been great for me... Brians dogs are lent out to hunt terriermen every season and he still digs out regular himself........Back to middleton blood ive had some myself found them great finders but have a tendency to waffell,from what ive seen latley they are getting "Big" shows are ok there needed to keep hunts going but they must find good WORKING judges that know a sofa dog from an earth dog

[BBB 7]

yeah nuttall does still loan's his dog's to various hunt's this i know . and i have also seen folk on here sayin his dog's are getting to small no way . if you pick his dog's up they are as heavy as lead. and as a good useable dog. required to work week in week out.[ not once every couple month] they are hard to beat. i'v had gamer strain dog's for sure but not nearly as useable . as for show's . well i hate em . usualy filled with dog's that have done and will do nowt.

[Guest boysfaetheblackstuff]

intresting

[digger 6]

ricky n.p.p that dog reggie you are on about you didnt buy that dog it wes pinched of me why i was diggin in scotland.i pmd you when you put the pic of the dog up a while bk .told you evething about it.its not middleton bred at all it postgate and wardy bred.

[Guest boysfaetheblackstuff]

I've bred Middleton terriers for the past 30 years and I think alot of people shun the man, but a great deal of respected digging men went to him for dogs and i've been on the digs when they do the business. The old line is still about, ive got proof in my kennels, I dont show them, but there are smart terriers. And above all they are game!!

here"s a picture of my middleton bred terrier mate, he"s 17 mnth old and he"s starting to go really hard now because of the way i"ve been entering him but this season we"ll see what he"s made of, i paid £250 for him from Bathgate Scotland i"m not being cheeky here but i would never pay £1000 for any type of dog personally i think your mate has been ripped off or he is loaded with cash, that dog that he paid the money for could go to ground 1 day and never be seen again that is just my personal opinion but i swear by middleton bred terriers and again that is just my opinion everybody else may have a different opinion on middleton bred terriers. go into my gallery and you"ll see more pictures of him

nice stamp of terrier you got there mate

[Guest johnD]

just going back to the nuttall part of this thread any genuine and honest digging men will know that nuttall in his time bred and owned top notch digging terriers.i for one have dug to a lot of terriers of his OLD STUFF and they certainly did and do to the present day get the job done.these particular line of dogs have been tried and tested and a lot of other black strains at the present time owe a lot to nuttall lines.imo brians present strain has altered a lot and we much prefer the older stuff and a few of them can be seen in the old terrier yearbooks.

[Guest SPIFF]

Good post John Dog