Guide to hmr/lr etc

[olib007 1]

Having done a bit of searching on google and this forum i've yet to work out the differences between the following:

 

hmr

lr

wmr

Hornet

Rugger

Win

etc

 

I figure i might as well ask otherwise i'll never know and it will probably drive me mad!! Can anyone tell me what they mean or tell me where to look for more info?

 

Cheers,

Oli

[SNAP SHOT 194]

hmr.... hornady magnum rimfire

 

lr, long rifle.

 

 

wmr. winchester magum rimfire.

 

hornet, is a small centre fire rifle in .22 caliber.

 

ruger, Is a rifle manufacture,

 

Win... Is winchester rifle manufacture, they also make ammo.

[matt_hooks 188]

HMR, Hornady Magnum Rimfire. A .17 calibre rimfire rifle round, based on a necked down .22 WMR (Winchester Magnum Rimfire) case. A very fast, very light round used for long range vermin and small ground game. The very light bullet is thought by many to reduce the risk of ricochet. It does a similar job to the .22LR, but is effective to longer ranges (out past 150 yards if the soggy organic bit does their bit!) It's also a lot noisier, and being supersonic can't be moderated as succesfully as the .22LR.

 

.22 LR, a .22 calibre rimfire round. This is the biggest selling ammunition of all time. Everybody has a .22LR! All sorts of weapon have at some point been chambered for the .22LR, pistols, revolvers, carbines, rifles... The .22LR is a very good rabbiting round out to about 75 yards, depending on rifle/scope/shooter combo. The .22LR is usually used as a hunting round with subsonic ammunition and a sound moderator, making it extremely quiet and very effective. The .22LR is probably the cheapest round to buy because it is produced in such huge volumes.

 

.22WMR (Winchester Magnum Rimfire) a bigger, longer version of the .22LR. Capable of producing 3 times the power of the LR, it is an excellent choice for longer range shooting, and is less prone to wind deflection than the WMR. It is also a lot cheaper per round.

 

As said, the Hornet is a .22 calibre centrefire round, considered the smallest of the centre fire ammunition, a long range "varminting" round from the states, designed for knocking over small fluffy creatures at very long ranges where people are too lazy, or too fat, to do the field work properly! (I jest)

 

Ruger are firearms manufacturers. They make one of the best selling semi-automatic weapons in the world, the Ruger 10-22. As the name suggests it is chambered in .22 (in the UK a semi-automatic is only allowed to be chambered in .22 rimfire due to the law, so .22LR or .22WMR)

 

Winchester, one of the most famous arms manufacturers. They produced one of the most recognisable actions in the world, one that you'll see in virtually every western, the underlever rifle. They also make some of the best ammunition in the smaller calibres.

 

That's the basics, I could write pages on each item!

[halamrose 24]

Try here:

http://www.chuckhawks.com/22_rimfire_cartridges.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/17HMR.htm

http://www.chuckhawks.com/index2e.rifle_cartridges.htm

[RicW 67]

As said by all, but note that although HMR is 0.17" calibre it is much more powerful than the .22lr. Also, the two rounds available are designed to fragment on impact, which again reduces the risk of the mad Irish bouncer Rick O'Shay.

(No offence to our Hibernian comrades!)

[matt_hooks 188]

As said by all, but note that although HMR is 0.17" calibre it is much more powerful than the .22lr. Also, the two rounds available are designed to fragment on impact, which again reduces the risk of the mad Irish bouncer Rick O'Shay.

(No offence to our Hibernian comrades!)

 

Actually, the 17 grain is a frangible round, but the 20 grain is a "controlled expansion" round, and is far less prone to breaking up at the slightest hint of hitting anything. The lack of ricochet is over stated IMHO, the 17 DOES ricochet, and so you shouldn't be taking shots where a ricochet is likely to cause a problem. This is the same for any rifle IMHO. I wouldn't take a shot with the .17 that I wouldn't take with the .22 because of the ricochet danger, so the supposed gain just isn't there.

 

As always, that's just my opinion.

[RicW 67]

As said by all, but note that although HMR is 0.17" calibre it is much more powerful than the .22lr. Also, the two rounds available are designed to fragment on impact, which again reduces the risk of the mad Irish bouncer Rick O'Shay.

(No offence to our Hibernian comrades!)

 

Actually, the 17 grain is a frangible round, but the 20 grain is a "controlled expansion" round, and is far less prone to breaking up at the slightest hint of hitting anything. The lack of ricochet is over stated IMHO, the 17 DOES ricochet, and so you shouldn't be taking shots where a ricochet is likely to cause a problem. This is the same for any rifle IMHO. I wouldn't take a shot with the .17 that I wouldn't take with the .22 because of the ricochet danger, so the supposed gain just isn't there.

 

As always, that's just my opinion.

 

Matt, personally I agree, but I was giving a widely held opinion. There are FEOs in some areas who will urge people to go for HMR rather than .22lr on the basis of reduced risk of ricochet.

 

Ric

[matt_hooks 188]

Once again proving, as most shooters know, that your average FEO knows exactly f##k all about ballistics.

 

I'd say the .17 is a higher risk, as it packs something like three times the energy of the .22LR.

[olib007 1]

Fantastic; thank you all; I feel educated!! I hope to apply for use of my bosses .243 soon for culling use in our deer park & humane dispatch etc while at work. I also want a .22 as well for rabbits, corvids (on the ground of course)so it seems like .22 lr is a good choice to apply for.

 

Thanks,

Oli