johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 People get funny about it and yes i'd rather the dog marked by having a sniff, or as some do by freezing and staring. Terriers are prone to digging and that aint great, but you take what you get. You dont teach a dog a marking style, it just does what it does. I don't think what you 'want' comes into it. And we take out a dog that marks by sticking her head down the hole, breathing like an asthmatic and wagging her tail - and the rabbits bolt just fine. People worry too much. Contradict yourself there a bit mate,you make your point about terriers,so wouldn,t he be better off getting another type to "get what he wants" eg collie type He might not get what he wants but would greatly increase his chances,horses for courses No messing jmo Sorry mate i think you misunderstand. We were talking lurchers. I mentioned that terriers are pretty likely to dig which isn't great but with lurchers you never can tell, it's down to the dog. The dog in question is a collie x like megpshyco says Sorry I don,t think I misunderstood,surely if you want a lurcher which marks this way,you would buy,breed the type with the desired trait,it may not work but your chances would be increased,also I wasn,t talking about "the dog in question" I was speaking generaly However my sal/grey marks the same way as my collie type so maybe I am talking pish A dog that marked "correctly" wouldn't be high on my list when buying or breeding to be honest.....as long as it marked true wouldn't really care how.People are a little too occupied with perfection.....my bitch takes 4 big lung fulls of the hole wags her tail,makes a lot less noise than me and my mate do netting up. I've owned a few dogs and all have marked differently........my bitches dam and sire would escavate a occupied burrow,so the breed a proper marker theory didn't work there Aye I,ve noticed if you comment on the big ideas posts and don,t agree entirely he diznae like it and nor do his mates,I think what I,m saying is even If your opinion has got a grain off truth in it he still says yer talking pish, Another point ,if I had a dog sticking its head down a hole while breathing like an asthmatic it would do my fxcking head in Where have I disagreed with you or said your talking pish?And I think saying my dog breaths like an asthmatic when marking is a little exaggeration on Jai's part I'm not too bothered how a dog marks as long has it does.......we'd all like a dog that does the pointer thing but I think that is a trait that particular dogs have don't think you could succsessfully breed that trait into a dog.Had a bitza once that would mark like yours rox but when you came to old deep ancient warrens he had to stick his head down to find out if it was occupied. Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 People get funny about it and yes i'd rather the dog marked by having a sniff, or as some do by freezing and staring. Terriers are prone to digging and that aint great, but you take what you get. You dont teach a dog a marking style, it just does what it does. I don't think what you 'want' comes into it. And we take out a dog that marks by sticking her head down the hole, breathing like an asthmatic and wagging her tail - and the rabbits bolt just fine. People worry too much. Contradict yourself there a bit mate,you make your point about terriers,so wouldn,t he be better off getting another type to "get what he wants" eg collie type He might not get what he wants but would greatly increase his chances,horses for courses No messing jmo Sorry mate i think you misunderstand. We were talking lurchers. I mentioned that terriers are pretty likely to dig which isn't great but with lurchers you never can tell, it's down to the dog. The dog in question is a collie x like megpshyco says Sorry I don,t think I misunderstood,surely if you want a lurcher which marks this way,you would buy,breed the type with the desired trait,it may not work but your chances would be increased,also I wasn,t talking about "the dog in question" I was speaking generaly However my sal/grey marks the same way as my collie type so maybe I am talking pish A dog that marked "correctly" wouldn't be high on my list when buying or breeding to be honest.....as long as it marked true wouldn't really care how.People are a little too occupied with perfection.....my bitch takes 4 big lung fulls of the hole wags her tail,makes a lot less noise than me and my mate do netting up. I've owned a few dogs and all have marked differently........my bitches dam and sire would escavate a occupied burrow,so the breed a proper marker theory didn't work there Aye I,ve noticed if you comment on the big ideas posts and don,t agree entirely he diznae like it and nor do his mates,I think what I,m saying is even If your opinion has got a grain off truth in it he still says yer talking pish, Another point ,if I had a dog sticking its head down a hole while breathing like an asthmatic it would do my fxcking head in Calm down buddy - all i said was that when it comes to lurchers how they will mark is fairly random. I do not think it is breed specific as i have witnessed dogs of the same breed marking in different ways and dogs of differing breed marking in the same way. I do however believe that dogs will learn to copy the marking style of the older more experienced dogs that they go out with as pups, but some then develop their own style later in life. These are obviously just my opinions and may differ to yours, its a forum, chill Aye mate,I originaly made a comment and then it turned into something else as I said above maybe I am talking pish but none the less as you said its an open forum and and we,re all enitled to an opinion f**k knows mate i been beating all day so i'm knackered Not even sure what you'd be talking piss about Quote Link to post
megpsycho 8 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 id be happy for my dog too mark at all hes a russell and hunts and flushes in cover but when it comes too holes he sniffs and fecks off even when there occupied any ideas on how too get him marking. lurchers the same though shes always been a lamping dog so not too bothered about her but the russell wats his story lol. Take him out a bit feckin more on a serious note is there any tried and tested ways of getting a dog too mark or do some just not grasp it atb meg Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 People get funny about it and yes i'd rather the dog marked by having a sniff, or as some do by freezing and staring. Terriers are prone to digging and that aint great, but you take what you get. You dont teach a dog a marking style, it just does what it does. I don't think what you 'want' comes into it. And we take out a dog that marks by sticking her head down the hole, breathing like an asthmatic and wagging her tail - and the rabbits bolt just fine. People worry too much. Contradict yourself there a bit mate,you make your point about terriers,so wouldn,t he be better off getting another type to "get what he wants" eg collie type He might not get what he wants but would greatly increase his chances,horses for courses No messing jmo Sorry mate i think you misunderstand. We were talking lurchers. I mentioned that terriers are pretty likely to dig which isn't great but with lurchers you never can tell, it's down to the dog. The dog in question is a collie x like megpshyco says Sorry I don,t think I misunderstood,surely if you want a lurcher which marks this way,you would buy,breed the type with the desired trait,it may not work but your chances would be increased,also I wasn,t talking about "the dog in question" I was speaking generaly However my sal/grey marks the same way as my collie type so maybe I am talking pish A dog that marked "correctly" wouldn't be high on my list when buying or breeding to be honest.....as long as it marked true wouldn't really care how.People are a little too occupied with perfection.....my bitch takes 4 big lung fulls of the hole wags her tail,makes a lot less noise than me and my mate do netting up. I've owned a few dogs and all have marked differently........my bitches dam and sire would escavate a occupied burrow,so the breed a proper marker theory didn't work there Aye I,ve noticed if you comment on the big ideas posts and don,t agree entirely he diznae like it and nor do his mates,I think what I,m saying is even If your opinion has got a grain off truth in it he still says yer talking pish, Another point ,if I had a dog sticking its head down a hole while breathing like an asthmatic it would do my fxcking head in Where have I disagreed with you or said your talking pish?And I think saying my dog breaths like an asthmatic when marking is a little exaggeration on Jai's part I'm not too bothered how a dog marks as long has it does.......we'd all like a dog that does the pointer thing but I think that is a trait that particular dogs have don't think you could succsessfully breed that trait into a dog.Had a bitza once that would mark like yours rox but when you came to old deep ancient warrens he had to stick his head down to find out if it was occupied. Aye asthma thing was what is known as a 'joke', intended to convey the idea that she sniffs down the hole. Its all down to the individual dog not breed Quote Link to post
scothunter 12,609 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Is it just me im looking at the pictures and see dogs in the holes all i want is my lurcher to sniff the hole raise a front paw hole marked job done. Nets down ferret in i dont want her alerting the rabbits ???. glad you brought that up one lol i wasnt gonna mention it in case of another big argument. Me personally i like to be quiet as possible and as little disturbance aswell. Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 id be happy for my dog too mark at all hes a russell and hunts and flushes in cover but when it comes too holes he sniffs and fecks off even when there occupied any ideas on how too get him marking. lurchers the same though shes always been a lamping dog so not too bothered about her but the russell wats his story lol. Take him out a bit feckin more on a serious note is there any tried and tested ways of getting a dog too mark or do some just not grasp it atb meg I'll get him marking for you mate........you just need to take him out the kennel now and again Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 id be happy for my dog too mark at all hes a russell and hunts and flushes in cover but when it comes too holes he sniffs and fecks off even when there occupied any ideas on how too get him marking. lurchers the same though shes always been a lamping dog so not too bothered about her but the russell wats his story lol. Take him out a bit feckin more on a serious note is there any tried and tested ways of getting a dog too mark or do some just not grasp it atb meg Most dogs will learn to mark if you show them enough occupied/unoccupied buries, no matter what breed they are. Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 'roxy' timestamp='1294855712' post='1872241'] another a bit better Thats all mine does moves out the way to let you set a net then moves over the burrow with the action ,If theres somthing in a bury you wont call her off a sure sign theres rabbits home . Then if a rabbit bolts she will do the same at another hole and she knows theres more than one rabbit in there .how do they do it ?. She,ll mark like this mate but when you start to lay nets she tends to fxck aboot,disturbs the nets etc,when the ferrets get entered though she stays alert and moves about according to underground noise etc,I try not to direct her too much Quote Link to post
megpsycho 8 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 cheers malt have too take him out again thatl be twice this season lucky b*****d dont know how good hes got it Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 id be happy for my dog too mark at all hes a russell and hunts and flushes in cover but when it comes too holes he sniffs and fecks off even when there occupied any ideas on how too get him marking. lurchers the same though shes always been a lamping dog so not too bothered about her but the russell wats his story lol. Take him out a bit feckin more on a serious note is there any tried and tested ways of getting a dog too mark or do some just not grasp it atb meg Stick your finger up its bum Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I try not to direct her too much I agree with that 100% I've been out with lads who constantly call a dog back to a hole once they've moved on from it. Drives me dull because all they're doing is teaching the dog bad habits.. One thing you don't want is a dog that will false mark at any old hole. They've got a far better idea of what's going on down there than we have, no matter how likely looking the hole.. Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 id be happy for my dog too mark at all hes a russell and hunts and flushes in cover but when it comes too holes he sniffs and fecks off even when there occupied any ideas on how too get him marking. lurchers the same though shes always been a lamping dog so not too bothered about her but the russell wats his story lol. Take him out a bit feckin more on a serious note is there any tried and tested ways of getting a dog too mark or do some just not grasp it atb meg Stick your finger up its bum sit it on yer fanny Quote Link to post
megpsycho 8 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 id be happy for my dog too mark at all hes a russell and hunts and flushes in cover but when it comes too holes he sniffs and fecks off even when there occupied any ideas on how too get him marking. lurchers the same though shes always been a lamping dog so not too bothered about her but the russell wats his story lol. Take him out a bit feckin more on a serious note is there any tried and tested ways of getting a dog too mark or do some just not grasp it atb meg Stick your finger up its bum lol watch i dont stick my finger up your bum goldilocks and stay off my mountain Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 I try not to direct her too much I agree with that 100% I've been out with lads who constantly call a dog back to a hole once they've moved on from it. Drives me dull because all they're doing is teaching the dog bad habits.. One thing you don't want is a dog that will false mark at any old hole. They've got a far better idea of what's going on down there than we have, no matter how likely looking the hole.. Don't praise for marking as well cos it can encourage false marks etc. Exposure is the only teacher and maybe another dog. Quote Link to post
megpsycho 8 Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 id be happy for my dog too mark at all hes a russell and hunts and flushes in cover but when it comes too holes he sniffs and fecks off even when there occupied any ideas on how too get him marking. lurchers the same though shes always been a lamping dog so not too bothered about her but the russell wats his story lol. Take him out a bit feckin more on a serious note is there any tried and tested ways of getting a dog too mark or do some just not grasp it atb meg Stick your finger up its bum sit it on yer fanny itl have too be my cock wont be the first time Quote Link to post
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