brunty29cdo 5 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 i know hes not a lurcher but i know theres alot of experienced bull owner so i posted here and terrier forum as i want all advice possible. hi all,im need of some advice as im at wits end.... iv got a staffy male 2 years old,had him of a family since he was 8 months old.hes first and foremost a pet but he proving a good bushing dog....anyway hes a fantastic dog exept one thing...he growls at me and wife,only in last 6 months or so but its getting worse and i have no doubt hel bite if we dont back down.. i love the dog to bits and its breaking my heart but cant let it persist as im in forces and soon be off on 6 month tour and i cant trust him alone with wife. he growls if you grab his collar if he thinks hes goin to be told off,or push him of sofa etc etc.he went for me when i split a dog fight up,but managed to stop him.he hasnt bit us yet but this behaviour is un warranted. hes never been mistreated and comes everywhere with is and has a fantastic life as far as a dogs concerned but he is not spoilt. like i say hes a fantastic dog in every other way and 90% of the time a loving brilliant dog so id like to do know what i can do to fix this or do i have to face the inevitable.thanks. and please no dickhead comments just informative advice please guys Attached thumbnail(s) Quote Link to post
Stanleigh 135 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 If i know hes not a lurcher but i know theres alot of experienced bull owner so i posted here and terrier forum as i want all advice possible. hi all,im need of some advice as im at wits end.... iv got a staffy male 2 years old,had him of a family since he was 8 months old.hes first and foremost a pet but he proving a good bushing dog....anyway hes a fantastic dog exept one thing...he growls at me and wife,only in last 6 months or so but its getting worse and i have no doubt hel bite if we dont back down.. i love the dog to bits and its breaking my heart but cant let it persist as im in forces and soon be off on 6 month tour and i cant trust him alone with wife. he growls if you grab his collar if he thinks hes goin to be told off,or push him of sofa etc etc.he went for me when i split a dog fight up,but managed to stop him.he hasnt bit us yet but this behaviour is un warranted. hes never been mistreated and comes everywhere with is and has a fantastic life as far as a dogs concerned but he is not spoilt. like i say hes a fantastic dog in every other way and 90% of the time a loving brilliant dog so id like to do know what i can do to fix this or do i have to face the inevitable.thanks. and please no dickhead comments just informative advice please guys Attached thumbnail(s) If your going away for 6 months leaving your dog alone with the wife ,PTS ! or rehome to an experienced person who knows what their taking on . Quote Link to post
jarv5116 57 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 give it good slap round the head or crack it with somethin, Try been rough with it. Its prob just takin piss cause it knows it can get away with it. will soon back down if dont PTS. Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 THE DOGS AT THAT AGE WERE HES TRYING TO BE MORE DOMINENT THAN YOU AND HE TH8NKS HES KING OF THE CASTLE. SHOW HIM YOUR THE GAFFER ANDGIVE HIM A GOOD CRACK AND EXPELL HIM TO THE YARD OR KENNEL EVERY TIME HES OUT OF ORDER.SOMETIMES A GOOD BOOT IN THE ARSE WORKS WONDERS.ATB.STAY SAFE ON TOUR. Quote Link to post
judge2010 196 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 cut his nuts off he still has them. good luck on tour. Quote Link to post
martnmagik 68 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 cut his nuts off he still has them. good luck on tour. but dont do it yourself lol atb with the tour Quote Link to post
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 You either need sort it quick why your there or get it an experienced home or sadly PTS as been said you need to put it in it's place sometimes hitting it won't work you need to get help off someone that knows simple things like making him wait for his food taking it off him why he's eating playing tug then ending the game when you want a lot of lead work even in house little things like that but lots of them consistently will sort it 90% of the time good luck on tour Quote Link to post
Shazza 52 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 I'm no fan of hitting dogs but sometimes it has to be done and if a few boots up the backside (don't slap him as he could bite and you dont want hands or face too close) shows him humans are boss then it'll save his life. You got to make him understand without a doubt that you (and your wife) are in charge and will tolerate no back chat off him. If he's still intact i would get him snipped asap which will also lower his status a peg or two. Keep the training consistant from both you and the wife, stand no nonesense off the dog at all. A trained dog who knows it's place is a happy dog. Quote Link to post
willy17 1 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 i think the advice about the dog is trying to be dominant and you and your wife and kids if you have any are more dominant little things like who gos out the door first and also i play with my dogs on the floor now and then i just pin them down and hold them till they stop strugling and that way they now i,am the boss if that dont work electric shock collars do the trick i have been told Quote Link to post
BULL 97 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 defo needs a firm hand everytime he growls needs to know your the boss if hes continuing to do this whilst your there i would say he will be much worse whilst your away could bite the mrs if you cant break him before you go p.t.s Quote Link to post
Malt 379 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 Some dogs need to be dominated in different ways to put them in line. With some breeds a sharp word is enough, but with others you need to be a bit physical... There is no equal partnership between a dog and it's master, they only understand two things: Dominating and being dominated. When you have a dog living in the house, it's easier for it to get ideas above it's station. I've never had a kennelled dog, but my theory is that the dog automatically knows it's place because you're always dictating to it with feeding times, and you are solely in charge of when it's allowed to come out of it's kennel and when it has to go back in. (That's my theory anyway..) When you have a dog living as part of the family it's role is sometimes not as defined, especially if it has an owner who doesn't fully understand the Master > Dog relationship. You have to dominate your dog from an early age. When you're play fighting with an 8 week old pup, for the owner it might be all about enjoyment, but for the dog it's about learning as much as it is about having fun. Even at that age the dog is learning about what is acceptable behaviour and what isn't. The whole time you must never let the dog get into a situation where it thinks it holds the upper hand, and you must discipline the dog if it's done wrong. You must be clear and you must be firm with the dog. If you do enough of this as a small pup, by the time the dog gets to the age where it's ready to cement it's place in your pack structure and maybe chance it's luck and try to assert itself, you will have an easier job. Saying all that, it's difficult to give advise out on the net, as all dogs are different, and you have to tailor your discipline levels to suit the dog. What might be needed for one animal, might be too much for another and turn it into a nervous, snappy danger of a dog. Good luck with whatever you decide, but if doubts persist about leaving the dog with your family, have the strength to do the right thing by your family first. Good luck with the tour. Quote Link to post
brunty29cdo 5 Posted January 9, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 thanks for all your replies. he is intact and i will get him snipped. he knows whos boss and does as told when we say.i do give him a kick up the arse but nothing that hurts him.he is submissive to both me and wife and perfect most of time but its almost like he sometimes gets scared if we raise our voices and growls if we aproach him like hes gonna get a smack.once i see hes scared i speak softly to him and reasure him hes not getting smacked ect hes fine and wants to say sorry. like i say hes perfect 99% of time but he just seems to be getting worse lately. im not a walk over owner but neither a cruel type,hes treated well and very well socialised,exercised twice a day.i personaly cannot see what im doing wrong as i had and been around dogs all my life and never had this problem that i havent solved there and then. thanks again Quote Link to post
look up 406 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 pts dogs like that anit worth wank .a bad dog will allways be a bad dog if he growls at u and u say he mite bite .it mite be some body eles next time .then u will be in shit street .atb Quote Link to post
Casso 1,261 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 thanks for all your replies. he is intact and i will get him snipped. he knows whos boss and does as told when we say.i do give him a kick up the arse but nothing that hurts him.he is submissive to both me and wife and perfect most of time but its almost like he sometimes gets scared if we raise our voices and growls if we aproach him like hes gonna get a smack.once i see hes scared i speak softly to him and reasure him hes not getting smacked ect hes fine and wants to say sorry. like i say hes perfect 99% of time but he just seems to be getting worse lately. im not a walk over owner but neither a cruel type,hes treated well and very well socialised,exercised twice a day.i personaly cannot see what im doing wrong as i had and been around dogs all my life and never had this problem that i havent solved there and then. thanks again a dog is by his very nature a social animal, the growling is a defensive behavour not an aggressive move, he seems to be in fear of you which is why he's scared when you raise your voice to him , giving him a telling off or a dig when he growls is only driving the problem deeper, its not going away , its only shutting him down and pushing more stress into his system Find out what turns him on the most, chasing a ball , playing tug , whatever gets his drive up, a dog who gets to drain his drive regular, is a happy contented and social animal, but he must see you as the way of using his drive, Had that same problem with a shepard my father had in , throughout the day and for a couple of weeks everytime we approached the dog or put our hands to him , we gave him a tiny piece of cheese whether he growled or not,in no time the dog was looking forward to our approach and the growling stopped ,, Be the focus of your dogs drive and he will begin to see you as a friend and not a foe,,best of luck with him ,,,dont get him done either the prob can be sorted without destroying his very nature,, Quote Link to post
Shazza 52 Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 With the extra info it does sound more like a fear issue and not dominance. If that is the case do not raise your voice or hand to him, fear biters are the worse kind. You really need to keep reassuring him, use toys or tidbits, whatever he prefers to give him confidence that your not bad to be around (wife needs to do it as well). Unfortunately it's a long road to sort him out so if you haven't got time i would look to rehome him to an experienced person aware of his issues. Quote Link to post
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