BULLDOUG 199 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) how many tits live there lives through there dogs Edited January 9, 2011 by BULLDOUG Quote Link to post
judge2010 196 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) I find it a little upsetting when Staffords get cast asside as being a show pony and good for nothing more than a draught excluder/family pet (mainly from the old pitbull folk). Myself i think we have some good blood out there and that they still bring a lot to the table. Anyone working Staffs or staff crosses out there who could agree?? i have a staff who i got out the local free ad's a couple of years ago for £100 and i cant fault him, he wouldn't win a thing in a show ring and has no "psycho" blood in him but he does everything i ask of him. Great with kids as well. Edited January 8, 2011 by judge2010 Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,145 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (mainly from the old pitbull folk). I guess when you have driven a ferrari a cortina dont quite cut it ...in fairness,im sure theres some good little staffs out there.....ive just never seen one personally,though their owners would have you think their mustard..... What really grates on me is these staffs that are bred for " longer legs " to be " more athletic "......then they are put in super duper fit condition to stand in a show ring at an athletic dogs show and get a rossette....no different to the little fatties at crufts ! Just like the apbt these days mate,95% of staffs are good for nothing......just the 5% of good apbt,s are a hell of a lot more dog than the 5% of good staffs. 1 Quote Link to post
BULLDOUG 199 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (mainly from the old pitbull folk). I guess when you have driven a ferrari a cortina dont quite cut it ...in fairness,im sure theres some good little staffs out there.....ive just never seen one personally,though their owners would have you think their mustard..... What really grates on me is these staffs that are bred for " longer legs " to be " more athletic "......then they are put in super duper fit condition to stand in a show ring at an athletic dogs show and get a rossette....no different to the little fatties at crufts ! Just like the apbt these days mate,95% of staffs are good for nothing......just the 5% of good apbt,s are a hell of a lot more dog than the 5% of good staffs. Tha APBT is by far the greatest Gladiator of its time, but the Stafford in its own right is an athlete with tennacity, and bred the way they should be surely they have a lot to offer? I suppose its fair to say that good staffs arnt that easy found today (and i have searched high and low. But when you do get them right, i think there an awsome dog Quote Link to post
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Can be very good dogs I had an awesome little staff bout 12/13 years ago and because he didn't have a massive head and huge chest well you know the type he wasn't a staff but this little 30lb staff was 100 times the athlete tenacious and down right awesome little dog you could get that's why I am 99% certain I will never have samphire staff as I would just be disappointed but a well bred pbt hell yeah (if it was legal) Quote Link to post
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 I find it a little upsetting when Staffords get cast asside as being a show pony and good for nothing more than a draught excluder/family pet (mainly from the old pitbull folk). Myself i think we have some good blood out there and that they still bring a lot to the table. Anyone working Staffs or staff crosses out there who could agree?? I had a Staff X Patt, this was him - Unfortunately He was good for nothing but kicking up the ass! My Lurcher pup has got a little bit of staff in his make up though Quote Link to post
judge2010 196 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (mainly from the old pitbull folk). I guess when you have driven a ferrari a cortina dont quite cut it ...in fairness,im sure theres some good little staffs out there.....ive just never seen one personally,though their owners would have you think their mustard..... What really grates on me is these staffs that are bred for " longer legs " to be " more athletic "......then they are put in super duper fit condition to stand in a show ring at an athletic dogs show and get a rossette....no different to the little fatties at crufts ! Just like the apbt these days mate,95% of staffs are good for nothing......just the 5% of good apbt,s are a hell of a lot more dog than the 5% of good staffs. Tha APBT is by far the greatest Gladiator of its time, but the Stafford in its own right is an athlete with tennacity, and bred the way they should be surely they have a lot to offer? I suppose its fair to say that good staffs arnt that easy found today (and i have searched high and low. But when you do get them right, i think there an awsome dog good staffs come from unlikley sources, i heard theres some good dogs in holland but they've just scrapped the ban on apbt's so how long they'll be there for is anyones guess. Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,145 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Tha APBT is by far the greatest Gladiator of its time, but the Stafford in its own right is an athlete with tennacity, and bred the way they should be surely they have a lot to offer? I suppose its fair to say that good staffs arnt that easy found today (and i have searched high and low. But when you do get them right, i think there an awsome dog You see this is where conversations such as these are probably not for internet forums......i mean lets have it right...awesome at what ?.....a lot to offer in what ?.....tenacity at what ? gripping a stick swinging from a tree !! In todays times if a mans going to break the law he,s going to do it with the very best available......unless of course he just wants to give off the impression he has a good dog by breeding for longer legs getting them super fit........and then letting them swing from trees For a dog to be " a good dog " he needs a purpose.....and working wise staffs dont really have one........but that said any dog that does what its owner wants him to do is a good dog. 1 Quote Link to post
SHOTTGUNKELLY 11 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 looks like mines in the 5% then,but that depends on what you mean by working i use use mine for ratting and on occasions lamping with fair results the missus took him out a couple of nites ago and he almost had a roe deer, deer went over a 6ft panel fence dog went straight through it into a chainlink fence the other side other wise he'd have brought it down Quote Link to post
BULLDOUG 199 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Tha APBT is by far the greatest Gladiator of its time, but the Stafford in its own right is an athlete with tennacity, and bred the way they should be surely they have a lot to offer? I suppose its fair to say that good staffs arnt that easy found today (and i have searched high and low. But when you do get them right, i think there an awsome dog You see this is where conversations such as these are probably not for internet forums......i mean lets have it right...awesome at what ?.....a lot to offer in what ?.....tenacity at what ? gripping a stick swinging from a tree !! In todays times if a mans going to break the law he,s going to do it with the very best available......unless of course he just wants to give off the impression he has a good dog by breeding for longer legs getting them super fit........and then letting them swing from trees For a dog to be " a good dog " he needs a purpose.....and working wise staffs dont really have one........but that said any dog that does what its owner wants him to do is a good dog. Ive got a very light and tiny staffy bitch here who is just coming of age, i really cant wait to try her out at some ratting she should be great for it, and back in history the great ratting staffs wouldnt have been long legged muscle poppers. To be fair my lil staffy resembles a plummer more than a staff lol. LMAO at the pat/staff, that comment fills me with hope lol, nice looking dog still Quote Link to post
gnasher16 30,145 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) looks like mines in the 5% then,but that depends on what you mean by working i use use mine for ratting and on occasions lamping with fair results the missus took him out a couple of nites ago and he almost had a roe deer, deer went over a 6ft panel fence dog went straight through it into a chainlink fence the other side other wise he'd have brought it down Like i said,if a dog does what you want it to do then its a good dog I usually manage to offend people( not on purpose i might add ) when talking about staffords so i,ll let yous carry on Edited January 8, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post
Attack Fell Terrier 864 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 ... LMAO at the pat/staff, that comment fills me with hope lol, nice looking dog still In saying that, if it was a pet that I was after then he would of been perfect. He was real good around my two lads, was trust worthy around other dogs, and had a great character to him. Quote Link to post
Waz 4,264 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Borrowed a staff (pet from a long line of show/pet) for the last dig of 2010, his first time at the job and he done what we wanted. Would have been nice to have taken him the other day (first dig of 2011) as the he would have had to have worked a bit harder. This gets me thinking the traditional job of a staff is different to that of a bulldog, 1 in the tube and the other in the square. Quote Link to post
GHT 6 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 i keep sbt, one of whom i did attend alot of athletic type shows with from 1.5-2.5 years old, and yes i did condition the knackers off him to get a rosette lol,one of the best bits of advise i was given was in todays climate it does not do any harm to have a few rosettes knocking about the place, they are just my mooching companions , and i think the saying.... God loves a tryer, best sums them up, a pleasure to be around, who think they can do anything. 1 Quote Link to post
judge2010 196 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 i keep sbt, one of whom i did attend alot of athletic type shows with from 1.5-2.5 years old, and yes i did condition the knackers off him to get a rosette lol,one of the best bits of advise i was given was in todays climate it does not do any harm to have a few rosettes knocking about the place, they are just my mooching companions , and i think the saying.... God loves a tryer, best sums them up, a pleasure to be around, who think they can do anything. 1 Quote Link to post
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