lanesra 3,994 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Now we will see if Dalglish is the man , if it doesnt work who will the fans blame then as they have the man now they have wanted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 King Kenny :toast: http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/latest-news/hodgson-leaves-liverpool-fc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Whether or not he does a good job he can get out of the job at the end of the season.......the one thing that Kenny can bring to the dressing room is motivation,legends can get a little extra out of players.Granted being a legend dosen't always guarantee success but can be a big factor.......I for one have always wanted to see Dalglish back in the hot seat at Anfield.Besides it can't get worse....can it? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,241 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) Dont know why they had Hodgson in the first place,a few good years at Fulham dont qualify a manager for a top job at a top club...and Hodgson aint Liverpool quality on the back of a few good years at Fulham. It seems these days you aint gotta be proven for long to get the best jobs....look at Andy Carroll as an example now valued at 25 million on the back of half a good season ! I agree with the above.....The mere presence of Dalgliesh will raise the game of most players.....a bit like the effect Beckham will have at Spurs. Edited January 8, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Whether or not he does a good job he can get out of the job at the end of the season.......the one thing that Kenny can bring to the dressing room is motivation,legends can get a little extra out of players.Granted being a legend dosen't always guarantee success but can be a big factor.......I for one have always wanted to see Dalglish back in the hot seat at Anfield.Besides it can't get worse....can it? I agree with your thinkin johnny about a legend being in the dressin room and the players drawin extra motivation ect But i look at Roy Keane , he was a winner and a man who should of had players flyin out the dressin room to get at the opposition SADLY not with todays over hyped/over paid, pampered prima donas, no i dont support man u. so my views on Keane are not tunneled vision , dalglish was/is a LEGEND in another era , hope the fans dont expect too much too soon, but if it goes wrong the fans wont turn on dalglish it will be back to slatin the owners. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Whether or not he does a good job he can get out of the job at the end of the season.......the one thing that Kenny can bring to the dressing room is motivation,legends can get a little extra out of players.Granted being a legend dosen't always guarantee success but can be a big factor.......I for one have always wanted to see Dalglish back in the hot seat at Anfield.Besides it can't get worse....can it? I agree with your thinkin johnny about a legend being in the dressin room and the players drawin extra motivation ect But i look at Roy Keane , he was a winner and a man who should of had players flyin out the dressin room to get at the opposition SADLY not with todays over hyped/over paid, pampered prima donas, no i dont support man u. so my views on Keane are not tunneled vision , dalglish was/is a LEGEND in another era , hope the fans dont expect too much too soon, but if it goes wrong the fans wont turn on dalglish it will be back to slatin the owners. I think Keane's problem may've been he was a legend for Utd........not Sunderland or Ipswich and I think he is a confrontational character which dosen't always get the desired effect when dealing with "prima donna" footballers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gnasher16 30,241 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 (edited) Just wrote pretty much the same word for word as Johnnyboy ...so i,ll scrub it out Edited January 8, 2011 by gnasher16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Whether or not he does a good job he can get out of the job at the end of the season.......the one thing that Kenny can bring to the dressing room is motivation,legends can get a little extra out of players.Granted being a legend dosen't always guarantee success but can be a big factor.......I for one have always wanted to see Dalglish back in the hot seat at Anfield.Besides it can't get worse....can it? I agree with your thinkin johnny about a legend being in the dressin room and the players drawin extra motivation ect But i look at Roy Keane , he was a winner and a man who should of had players flyin out the dressin room to get at the opposition SADLY not with todays over hyped/over paid, pampered prima donas, no i dont support man u. so my views on Keane are not tunneled vision , dalglish was/is a LEGEND in another era , hope the fans dont expect too much too soon, but if it goes wrong the fans wont turn on dalglish it will be back to slatin the owners. I think Keane's problem may've been he was a legend for Utd........not Sunderland or Ipswich and I think he is a confrontational character which dosen't always get the desired effect when dealing with "prima donna" footballers. Cant grasp where your comin from there , Keane was a man who should inspire any footballer at any club , so Dalglish will inspire Gerrard and Carragher cause the other players have no illegience towards liverpool only the pay cheque, Gnasher if you agree with johnny on this how come you mentioned Beckham inspirin spurs, he has no ties with spurs, but i do think he will inspire them... AND HE PLAYED FOR MAN.U. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Whether or not he does a good job he can get out of the job at the end of the season.......the one thing that Kenny can bring to the dressing room is motivation,legends can get a little extra out of players.Granted being a legend dosen't always guarantee success but can be a big factor.......I for one have always wanted to see Dalglish back in the hot seat at Anfield.Besides it can't get worse....can it? I agree with your thinkin johnny about a legend being in the dressin room and the players drawin extra motivation ect But i look at Roy Keane , he was a winner and a man who should of had players flyin out the dressin room to get at the opposition SADLY not with todays over hyped/over paid, pampered prima donas, no i dont support man u. so my views on Keane are not tunneled vision , dalglish was/is a LEGEND in another era , hope the fans dont expect too much too soon, but if it goes wrong the fans wont turn on dalglish it will be back to slatin the owners. I think Keane's problem may've been he was a legend for Utd........not Sunderland or Ipswich and I think he is a confrontational character which dosen't always get the desired effect when dealing with "prima donna" footballers. Cant grasp where your comin from there , Keane was a man who should inspire any footballer at any club , so Dalglish will inspire Gerrard and Carragher cause the other players have no illegience towards liverpool only the pay cheque, Gnasher if you agree with johnny on this how come you mentioned Beckham inspirin spurs, he has no ties with spurs, but i do think he will inspire them... AND HE PLAYED FOR MAN.U. Yes Keane should inspire any player but for some reason he hasn't........perhaps he's just not the managerial type.Just my take on it,he was a wonderful player that never backed out of anything and perhaps he's taken this mindset into management.I'd imagine Keane to be a highly charged character in the dressing room maybe a little over-charged for management. Has a player at Utd Keane was surrounded by great players but in his managerial career he's hardly had world class players to work with.........you can motivate players so much but you need a certain amount of talent aswell something sadly that Sunderland and Ipswich weren't blessed with Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lanesra 3,994 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Fair point johnny Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tdavepat 8 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Dont know why they had Hodgson in the first place,a few good years at Fulham dont qualify a manager for a top job at a top club...and Hodgson aint Liverpool quality on the back of a few good years at Fulham. It seems these days you aint gotta be proven for long to get the best jobs....look at Andy Carroll as an example now valued at 25 million on the back of half a good season ! I agree with the above.....The mere presence of Dalgliesh will raise the game of most players.....a bit like the effect Beckham will have at Spurs. How can you believe that Dalglish has a better managerial pedigree than Roy Hodgson. Google Hodgson's managerial career and then google Dalglish's. You could easily argue that Hodgson had the most successful and varied of the two. I am not a Liverpool fan, but I do think Hodgson was treated shoddily by the fickle fans. He was never given the time to build his own team and now Dalglish will be pulled out of his ten year sabatical to build a championship challenging team out of nothing. First he has to avoid the drop! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Dont know why they had Hodgson in the first place,a few good years at Fulham dont qualify a manager for a top job at a top club...and Hodgson aint Liverpool quality on the back of a few good years at Fulham. It seems these days you aint gotta be proven for long to get the best jobs....look at Andy Carroll as an example now valued at 25 million on the back of half a good season ! I agree with the above.....The mere presence of Dalgliesh will raise the game of most players.....a bit like the effect Beckham will have at Spurs. How can you believe that Dalglish has a better managerial pedigree than Roy Hodgson. Google Hodgson's managerial career and then google Dalglish's. You could easily argue that Hodgson had the most successful and varied of the two. I am not a Liverpool fan, but I do think Hodgson was treated shoddily by the fickle fans. He was never given the time to build his own team and now Dalglish will be pulled out of his ten year sabatical to build a championship challenging team out of nothing. First he has to avoid the drop! Are you for real.......Dalglish took Liverpool to doubles,European Final and a few FA Cups,Blackburn to a Premier League.What has Hodgson won http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenny_Dalglish#Liverpool_2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Hodgson#Managerial_career Check them stats out......the Danish league or the Premier league Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tdavepat 8 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Dalglish hasn't done anything for 10 years, here was his sparkling career after Liverpool, who he previously walked out on I might add: He joined Blackburn Rovers in 1991 and, through Jack Walker's patronage, he turned the Second Division side to Premier League winners, breaking transfer fee records along the way. His move to Newcastle United in 1997 was less successful. Although he finished as Premier League runner-up in 1996–97, the team's league performance the following season was lacklustre and he was sacked by Freddie Shepherd at the start of the 1998–99 season. He was appointed Director of Football at Celtic in 1999 but a brief stint as caretaker manager ended in an acrimonious departure. He has not managed since 2000 and has instead focused on charitable concerns, founding The Marina Dalglish Appeal with his wife to raise money for breast cancer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Dalglish hasn't done anything for 10 years, here was his sparkling career after Liverpool, who he previously walked out on I might add: He joined Blackburn Rovers in 1991 and, through Jack Walker's patronage, he turned the Second Division side to Premier League winners, breaking transfer fee records along the way. His move to Newcastle United in 1997 was less successful. Although he finished as Premier League runner-up in 1996–97, the team's league performance the following season was lacklustre and he was sacked by Freddie Shepherd at the start of the 1998–99 season. He was appointed Director of Football at Celtic in 1999 but a brief stint as caretaker manager ended in an acrimonious departure. He has not managed since 2000 and has instead focused on charitable concerns, founding The Marina Dalglish Appeal with his wife to raise money for breast cancer. Granted he hasn't done anything for 10 years but your suggestion that hodgson as achieved more is laughable.......Dalglish achieved more in his managerial career at Liverpool than Hodgson could only dream of.And Dalglish left Liverpool after the Hillsborough disaster and never walked out on Liverpool his desicion to leave was an emotional one and not done on a whim. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tdavepat 8 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Dalglish hasn't done anything for 10 years, here was his sparkling career after Liverpool, who he previously walked out on I might add: He joined Blackburn Rovers in 1991 and, through Jack Walker's patronage, he turned the Second Division side to Premier League winners, breaking transfer fee records along the way. His move to Newcastle United in 1997 was less successful. Although he finished as Premier League runner-up in 1996–97, the team's league performance the following season was lacklustre and he was sacked by Freddie Shepherd at the start of the 1998–99 season. He was appointed Director of Football at Celtic in 1999 but a brief stint as caretaker manager ended in an acrimonious departure. He has not managed since 2000 and has instead focused on charitable concerns, founding The Marina Dalglish Appeal with his wife to raise money for breast cancer. Granted he hasn't done anything for 10 years but your suggestion that hodgson as achieved more is laughable.......Dalglish achieved more in his managerial career at Liverpool than Hodgson could only dream of.And Dalglish left Liverpool after the Hillsborough disaster and never walked out on Liverpool his desicion to leave was an emotional one and not done on a whim. That's what he claimed anyway, but he still moved back into management with Blackburn only eight months later. I think it depends on who you support as to whether Dalglish was more successful than Roy Hodgson. I did use the words, 'aguably more successful'. Success means different things to different people. Ask fans of Halmstads BK, Malmo, the Swiss National team or Fulham what they thought of him as a coach, motivator and manager. They would probably tell you that what he did was miraculous, given his relatively small budget and very limited talent pool. I'll tell you what Johnny, I'm pretty confident that Dalglish won't be in the same league of Messiahs as Kevin Keegan, and I'm a man of my word. If Dalglish manages to take Liverpool by the scruff, which is what they need, and take them to 6th or above position at season close, I'll send you a bottle of Black Bush. If they do not finish in the top half of the table I'll be sending you some humble pie, which I expect you to eat in public. It's almost a win win for you Anyone who owns and keeps a diary may log that and call my marker. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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