Applying for FAC

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

Hi all, my 6 month probationary period is up in two weeks at my local rifle club and i'm going to be applying for my FAC as a full member. I think I have a a couple of pieces of land with permission to shoot which also will be granted,

What should I apply for? The land I already shoot with an air rifle, there is mainly rabbits with a few foxes.

Don't suppose I will be granted a higher calibre than a .22 or .177? I like the .22 I have been using at the club but haven't seen or used a .177hmr?.......

What would you go for? Do I need to apply for zeroing and a moderator?

Cheers.

[Ballybricken 1]

177 is an air rifle calibre bud, 17HMR is the rimfire round! As for a moderator yes you will need to apply for one. As for which one I'd pick it depends on the range you'd be shooting the rabbits at, the hmr is flat flying and will give you a decent amount more range but is also a more expensive round and a bit louder then the .22. Apply for both bud. As for having fox on your ticket maybe you should look into a .22 centrefire round (hornet,220,222,223 and 22-250) as some police forces wont allow rimfire for fox control.

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

thanks mate, 17 hmr is what i meant, so a hornet is a .22 but in centrefire.....whats the differences between a .22 rimfire and the hornet centrefire ? velocity? range? price?

if its the same calibre why would they allow the hornet over the rimfire for fox? cheers

[matt_hooks 188]

if its the same calibre why would they allow the hornet over the rimfire for fox? cheers

 

Simple, energy!

 

.22LR, 40 grain bullet at anywhere between 900 and 1200 fps, about 100 ft.lb.

.22 Hornet, 40 grain bullet, 3000fps, about 700 ft.lb energy.

[RicW 67]

Offhand, I'd say you won't get a Centerfire on your first ticket. Some do, most don't. Go for the .22lr and for "purpose" put down rabbits, vermin and opportunistic fox. When you have your interview with your FEO, say that you won't be out after foxes, but if one pops his head out of a hedge 20 yards away you will make him regret it, tho not for long!

 

There's a long-standing controversy on here about whether any rim-fire should be regarded as a serious round for fox. I am on the side of the guys who say that while you can drop a close fox with a rimmie, you need at least Hornet for certain clean kills at more than about 50 yards, and even at that you need good shot placement.

 

Now the fit hits the shan . . .

[zx10mike 137]

Offhand, I'd say you won't get a Centerfire on your first ticket. Some do, most don't. Go for the .22lr and for "purpose" put down rabbits, vermin and opportunistic fox. When you have your interview with your FEO, say that you won't be out after foxes, but if one pops his head out of a hedge 20 yards away you will make him regret it, tho not for long!

 

There's a long-standing controversy on here about whether any rim-fire should be regarded as a serious round for fox. I am on the side of the guys who say that while you can drop a close fox with a rimmie, you need at least Hornet for certain clean kills at more than about 50 yards, and even at that you need good shot placement.

 

Now the fit hits the shan . . .

 

hi something to bear in mind is .22 is horrendous for richochets .17 hmr is a much safer round flatter trajectory much more accurate and the noise confuses them so the next one often sits.the noise is no worse than the thud a .22 makes when it connects.yes its more exphensive and you do need to clean your rifle each time you use it but it is well worth it.

[Ballybricken 1]

I was lucky enough to be granted centrefire on my first certificate but as you said it's all down to the issuing force. 17hmr is a cracking round no doubt about that but it's accuracy is seriously affected by windy conditions. So go

For both bud.

[DeerhoundLurcherMan 997]

Cheers for the help, got a better understanding of each calibres and what they good for now!!!!

Cheers