trephilgar 1 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 (edited) Wow....... Not sure we deserved that! As i stated more than once we recognize the limitations of shooting the rabbits and realise that with the overgrown land next door an alternative method was needed. The fact that the land owner is 78 and still shoots as often as possible should demonstrate our resolve to keep the numbers down. Seems from the response and pm's we have had in the last 24 hours you are thankfully in the minority of people who feel so hard done by. We are not taking advantage of people but have offered one person a reasonable piece of land to work which they did not have before. It may only be a few hundred acres (no doubt small fry to you and as you say not worth your while) but frankly with such an attitude as yours you would not be welcome on our land any way. We maintain our land and our hedges to a high standard but when there is ingress from neighboring land we need help. I can only assume that down in the West country we look at pest control differently to you. We see rabbit and fox control as a multi facetted effort, one that combines several different methods to achieve the best results. We would never be so arrogant to assume that one method is better than others so to slam shooting as the lazy option as you do is rather telling! Not everything has to revolve around money, we shoot game, not to control the number of pheasants but because we enjoy the company of like minded people. We hunt with hounds, not to kill foxes (thats done with lamp and rifle) but because its a vital part of country life that needs to be celebrated and protected not legislated out of existence. We fish in our rivers and in the sea and we eat what we catch. The difference is while the methods of catching fish may differ (fly, lure & worm), to the recreational angler the process of fishing is as important as the size of the bag. While I thank you for your opinion I think you may find you'll catch more bees with honey than you will with your own brand of vinegar. Edited January 5, 2011 by trephilgar 1 Quote Link to post
hunter-girl 10 Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Wow....... Not sure we deserved that! As i stated more than once we recognize the limitations of shooting the rabbits and realise that with the overgrown land next door an alternative method was needed. The fact that the land owner is 78 and still shoots as often as possible should demonstrate our resolve to keep the numbers down. Seems from the response and pm's we have had in the last 24 hours you are thankfully in the minority of people who feel so hard done by. We are not taking advantage of people but have offered one person a reasonable piece of land to work which they did not have before. It may only be a few hundred acres (no doubt small fry to you and as you say not worth your while) but frankly with such an attitude as yours you would not be welcome on our land any way. We maintain our land and our hedges to a high standard but when there is ingress from neighboring land we need help. I can only assume that down in the West country we look at pest control differently to you. We see rabbit and fox control as a multi facetted effort, one that combines several different methods to achieve the best results. We would never be so arrogant to assume that one method is better than others so to slam shooting as the lazy option as you do is rather telling! Not everything has to revolve around money, we shoot game, not to control the number of pheasants but because we enjoy the company of like minded people. We hunt with hounds, not to kill foxes (thats done with lamp and rifle) but because its a vital part of country life that needs to be celebrated and protected not legislated out of existence. We fish in our rivers and in the sea and we eat what we catch. The difference is while the methods of catching fish may differ (fly, lure & worm), to the recreational angler the process of fishing is as important as the size of the bag. While I thank you for your opinion I think you may find you'll catch more bees with honey than you will with your own brand of vinegar. Do you mind me asking who you offered it to? I pm'd you and didnt even get a thanks but no thanks I didnt realise so many people lived in the area?? Quote Link to post
trephilgar 1 Posted January 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 Will be offering...... have not offered but have met one person and meeting another at the weekend. Sorry if I caused confusion. PS Have only just got your PM Quote Link to post
max abell 196 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Wow....... Not sure we deserved that! As i stated more than once we recognize the limitations of shooting the rabbits and realise that with the overgrown land next door an alternative method was needed. The fact that the land owner is 78 and still shoots as often as possible should demonstrate our resolve to keep the numbers down. Seems from the response and pm's we have had in the last 24 hours you are thankfully in the minority of people who feel so hard done by. We are not taking advantage of people but have offered one person a reasonable piece of land to work which they did not have before. It may only be a few hundred acres (no doubt small fry to you and as you say not worth your while) but frankly with such an attitude as yours you would not be welcome on our land any way. We maintain our land and our hedges to a high standard but when there is ingress from neighboring land we need help. I can only assume that down in the West country we look at pest control differently to you. We see rabbit and fox control as a multi facetted effort, one that combines several different methods to achieve the best results. We would never be so arrogant to assume that one method is better than others so to slam shooting as the lazy option as you do is rather telling! Not everything has to revolve around money, we shoot game, not to control the number of pheasants but because we enjoy the company of like minded people. We hunt with hounds, not to kill foxes (thats done with lamp and rifle) but because its a vital part of country life that needs to be celebrated and protected not legislated out of existence. We fish in our rivers and in the sea and we eat what we catch. The difference is while the methods of catching fish may differ (fly, lure & worm), to the recreational angler the process of fishing is as important as the size of the bag. While I thank you for your opinion I think you may find you'll catch more bees with honey than you will with your own brand of vinegar. if you are so keen on keeping up the country life why dont you get some ferrets and do it yourself and as regards slaming shooting as a lazy method thats not what was said lamping accounts for hundreds of rabbits proberly more that ferreting ever does but it takes no effort ferrreting does so instead of sitting there in your breeks talking your college boy language have a go at ferreting yourself and practice what you preach mister countryside Quote Link to post
trephilgar 1 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) Dear Mr Angry of Sussex. Gosh there you go again with the name calling. Quite why you feel the need to criticize the wording of my post is a mystery. All I was trying to do was to clarify a position or opinion but it seems that you yet again have missed the point by a mile (country mile or otherwise). If you read my post again you will see that I clearly state the WE maintain our hedges, we do not employ people to do so for us, neither do we have staff, workers or minions. As the custodians of the land we own it is our responsibility to look after it and part of that involves dealing with the rabbit population. To do this we use what resources are available to us and if that includes asking someone to bring their ferretts that is what we will do. If that person then gets enjoyment out of doing so then all the better. We hunt, fish and shoot because we enjoy it. We shoot with like minded people who are our neighboring farmers. You have yet again incorrectly jumped to the conclusion that "like minded people" refers to formal driven shooting and even go so far as to question what clothing I ware. I fully recognise the skill, dedication and knowledge involved in working ferrets, knowledge that takes years (sometimes generations) to accumulate, however while I may choose to accompany whomever is given the permission to work our land so as to see what is involved I really dont see the need to go out and get some ferrets just to be considered a "county man"by you. I recently had the opportunity to watch someone who keeps Hawks but again have no desire to take that up as a hobby as well so as to fit some stereotype to have created. I thank you again for your opinion but politely request that you try to refrain from name calling as not only does it make you look hysterically angry and rather silly, but your misguided assumptions actually show a lack of understanding of the actual problem. Edited January 6, 2011 by trephilgar Quote Link to post
max abell 196 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Dear Mr Angry of Sussex. Gosh there you go again with the name calling. Quite why you feel the need to criticize the wording of my post is a mystery. All I was trying to do was to clarify a position or opinion but it seems that you yet again have missed the point by a mile (country mile or otherwise). If you read my post again you will see that I clearly state the WE maintain our hedges, we do not employ people to do so for us, neither do we have staff, workers or minions. As the custodians of the land we own it is our responsibility to look after it and part of that involves dealing with the rabbit population. To do this we use what resources are available to us and if that includes asking someone to bring their ferretts that is what we will do. If that person then gets enjoyment out of doing so then all the better. We hunt, fish and shoot because we enjoy it. We shoot with like minded people who are our neighboring farmers. You have yet again incorrectly jumped to the conclusion that "like minded people" refers to formal driven shooting and even go so far as to question what clothing I ware. I fully recognise the skill, dedication and knowledge involved in working ferrets, knowledge that takes years (sometimes generations) to accumulate, however while I may choose to accompany whomever is given the permission to work our land so as to see what is involved I really dont see the need to go out and get some ferrets just to be considered a "county man"by you. I recently had the opportunity to watch someone who keeps Hawks but again have no desire to take that up as a hobby as well so as to fit some stereotype to have created. I thank you again for your opinion but politely request that you try to refrain from name calling as not only does it make you look hysterically angry and rather silly, but your misguided assumptions actually show a lack of understanding of the actual problem. f**k me mate you do waffle on about a load of old shit you are not a mp by any chance are you Quote Link to post
trephilgar 1 Posted January 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 (edited) No I work for a living. But sometimes you have to make things as clear as possible, and try to use small words Edited January 6, 2011 by trephilgar Quote Link to post
Jamie m 668 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just a question if you don't mind me asking why is insurance needed for a bit of ferreting Quote Link to post
matt241075 12 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Just a question if you don't mind me asking why is insurance needed for a bit of ferreting hi all having insurance is a must if you are to go and do whatever country pursuit you chose on someone’s land, where I go there is all kinds of livestock and machinery. Accidents do happen so that’s why you need it, even for ferreting. Yes many go without it and hope nothing goes wrong but when it does you will wish you had it. I don’t blame this guy for asking for it and him doing so tells you he`s looking for a responsible ferreter to take on the challenge!!!!! People go on about permission on this site that it’s so hard to get hold off and like gold dust, yet it’s offered on a plate to the right person with insurance and the guy gets stick. What a joke!!!!!! The CA is only £60pa and there is even a half price offer on at the moment £30...........I’ve spent that on diesel to go ferreting..... Atb matt Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Somebody puts up a post offering ferreting permission on a piece of land with the possibility of more permission if a decent job is carried out and the guy gets alot of abuse, Perhaps if some people were more civil we may get more offers but the fxcken idiots can,t help themselves and fxck it up for everyone else,have a word. Quote Link to post
theferreter 311 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Somebody puts up a post offering ferreting permission on a piece of land with the possibility of more permission if a decent job is carried out and the guy gets alot of abuse, Perhaps if some people were more civil we may get more offers but the fxcken idiots can,t help themselves and fxck it up for everyone else,have a word. well said mate Quote Link to post
The one 8,477 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Im the same cant believe sombody offers free ferreting and it turns into a slagging match Quote Link to post
johnrthrfrd 223 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Somebody puts up a post offering ferreting permission on a piece of land with the possibility of more permission if a decent job is carried out and the guy gets alot of abuse, Perhaps if some people were more civil we may get more offers but the fxcken idiots can,t help themselves and fxck it up for everyone else,have a word. :clapper: Quote Link to post
kevin from bristol 95 Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 i say will pull back and nuke the whole field from orbit ! Quote Link to post
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