THE HARE AND THE SWIFT HOUND

[runforyourlife 361]

good man...dont forget to interview "stewie"....

[rex 8]

well i think its a cracking book...and some of the pics are outstanding ...

 

 

Top notch! Do some members forget there are many many sub forums on the site not just lurcher and running dogs?

Check out deer stalking and photography you will see some great and informative posts! If you can be arsed to look that is!

Sounds like jealousy to me and I have always found JD to be very helpful.

Happy hunting! If you can force yourself out that arm chair!

[karlsberg 319]

my mate is 3/4 way through his book on old coursing stuff and up to teh modern day stuff. he has a wealth of knowledge on the merlin and eve line and has actually seen most of teh dogs run himself .i just think he lacks the drive that darcy has to get it published and maybe a collaboration of them both could sort it out. i havent mentioned this to my mate but i think it would work . in coursing like every other hunting or competitive competition there is always 5 sides to the story . i think everyone wants a book about what happenedand how it happened type there is alot more people than those that max mentioned that has had alot more to do with coursing. i think wiith evolvement of teh forley and dvds people have become more in the spot light than others . theresis loads of lads that never got involved with them or dvds that were just as good if not better. some of teh old travellers and rogues were never invited into them. when i was a kid i read everyone of plummers books and i took it as gospel what he wrote andnow we all know it ws just 50 /50 shit .lets stop all teh squabling and get the book sorted once and for all everyone dont liek certain strains of coursing dog but lets not go down teh plummer book writing and give some of teh great names of hare coursing on teh fens a proper boook. p.s u see i mentioned hare coursing on teh fens because there lads who have never ran the fens that have quality stuff just becuase u dont run teh fens doesent mean u not as committed .

[TOMO 26,005]

my mate is 3/4 way through his book on old coursing stuff and up to teh modern day stuff. he has a wealth of knowledge on the merlin and eve line and has actually seen most of teh dogs run himself .i just think he lacks the drive that darcy has to get it published and maybe a collaboration of them both could sort it out. i havent mentioned this to my mate but i think it would work . in coursing like every other hunting or competitive competition there is always 5 sides to the story . i think everyone wants a book about what happenedand how it happened type there is alot more people than those that max mentioned that has had alot more to do with coursing. i think wiith evolvement of teh forley and dvds people have become more in the spot light than others . theresis loads of lads that never got involved with them or dvds that were just as good if not better. some of teh old travellers and rogues were never invited into them. when i was a kid i read everyone of plummers books and i took it as gospel what he wrote andnow we all know it ws just 50 /50 shit .lets stop all teh squabling and get the book sorted once and for all everyone dont liek certain strains of coursing dog but lets not go down teh plummer book writing and give some of teh great names of hare coursing on teh fens a proper boook. p.s u see i mentioned hare coursing on teh fens because there lads who have never ran the fens that have quality stuff just becuase u dont run teh fens doesent mean u not as committed .

 

 

AGREED theres plenty of others from way back that were involved...... just give me a call darcy im available for interview

[runforyourlife 361]

my mate is 3/4 way through his book on old coursing stuff and up to teh modern day stuff. he has a wealth of knowledge on the merlin and eve line and has actually seen most of teh dogs run himself .i just think he lacks the drive that darcy has to get it published and maybe a collaboration of them both could sort it out. i havent mentioned this to my mate but i think it would work . in coursing like every other hunting or competitive competition there is always 5 sides to the story . i think everyone wants a book about what happenedand how it happened type there is alot more people than those that max mentioned that has had alot more to do with coursing. i think wiith evolvement of teh forley and dvds people have become more in the spot light than others . theresis loads of lads that never got involved with them or dvds that were just as good if not better. some of teh old travellers and rogues were never invited into them. when i was a kid i read everyone of plummers books and i took it as gospel what he wrote andnow we all know it ws just 50 /50 shit .lets stop all teh squabling and get the book sorted once and for all everyone dont liek certain strains of coursing dog but lets not go down teh plummer book writing and give some of teh great names of hare coursing on teh fens a proper boook. p.s u see i mentioned hare coursing on teh fens because there lads who have never ran the fens that have quality stuff just becuase u dont run teh fens doesent mean u not as committed .

 

 

he did mention travellers. And the reason he mentioned the names he did, is because they worked hard at the things they did, other than just coursing. Like events ans stuff, plus gave alot of their land and timeso that others like the people you mention could run there dogs. I do think however that the majority of good dogs and bloodlines were discovered, and are known by most who where involved... Atb Russ.

[karlsberg 319]

my mate is 3/4 way through his book on old coursing stuff and up to teh modern day stuff. he has a wealth of knowledge on the merlin and eve line and has actually seen most of teh dogs run himself .i just think he lacks the drive that darcy has to get it published and maybe a collaboration of them both could sort it out. i havent mentioned this to my mate but i think it would work . in coursing like every other hunting or competitive competition there is always 5 sides to the story . i think everyone wants a book about what happenedand how it happened type there is alot more people than those that max mentioned that has had alot more to do with coursing. i think wiith evolvement of teh forley and dvds people have become more in the spot light than others . theresis loads of lads that never got involved with them or dvds that were just as good if not better. some of teh old travellers and rogues were never invited into them. when i was a kid i read everyone of plummers books and i took it as gospel what he wrote andnow we all know it ws just 50 /50 shit .lets stop all teh squabling and get the book sorted once and for all everyone dont liek certain strains of coursing dog but lets not go down teh plummer book writing and give some of teh great names of hare coursing on teh fens a proper boook. p.s u see i mentioned hare coursing on teh fens because there lads who have never ran the fens that have quality stuff just becuase u dont run teh fens doesent mean u not as committed .

 

 

he did mention travellers. And the reason he mentioned the names he did, is because they worked hard at the things they did, other than just coursing. Like events ans stuff, plus gave alot of their land and timeso that others like the people you mention could run there dogs. I do think however that the majority of good dogs and bloodlines were discovered, and are known by most who where involved... Atb Russ.

wish u would read before u type

[Guest stewie]

John darcy i think its time for me to say a few things about my recent comments on this thread ive thought long and hard about what i have said and fully admit its come out wrong and made me look a twat lol i thought to myself about the "running dog addiction" review in the EDRD that i mentioned in one post and back tracked through my collection of magazines and finally found it in no.148 november 2004. Its by chris breen and i would like to comment on what he said as he says it alot better than me

 

On photographs he says " the book picks up momentum as we progress through the pages, each chapter telling us of feats only possible in the world of the running dog, and aptly backed by photographs of the most revealing nature. make no mistake, these are hard hitting, and some would accuse jonathan of "letting the side down", of doing our cause no good at all".

 

This is what i was trying to say on here but as we all know things get said on here in the heat of discussion and get posted alot quicker than if you was writing them when sat down on your own, with a cup of tea like i am now and actually thinking before i post

 

Clive breen then says "Well, id counter that by saying there is nothing in this book that hasn't been seen before and isn't available to be seen elsewhere if you dig deep enough!"

I think theres a little pun there lol and this is, of course, perfectly true and when i read it again after all these years i realised i was wrong to just call these books if its not these pictures anti-hunters will use against use they are plenty more behind them.

 

He continues "perhaps the timing for the books release could of been better (hunting was banned within 6 months of this review) but what is shown happens in the world of hunting with running dogs. some people can and want to do this sort of thing whist for others hounds, terriers or whatever, will be there cup of tea, and while it is legal, i dont see a problem. for how much longer it will be legal... well, that remains to be seen".

 

Again true and looking back the act would of been passed with or without these books.

 

Towards the end of the review chris says of the book "the last chapter, in my opinion, lets the book down a little with the contributors comments concerning the illegal activity of poaching" and this i agree with 100% there was far to much information in that chapter that personally i think should never of been disclosed in a published book FACT.

 

I hope this kind of clears my earlier comments up, im not a messer,i love my sport and have had dogs all my life just because none of you have heard of me or them does not mean im not entitled to an opinion on all things connected to them be it right or wrong in anyone else eyes so john ive said my piece and i wont mention it again you are free to do what you like, there is obviously a call for your work so good luck with it in the future and drop me a pm when you want to interview me for your next book i hope there is no hard feelings between us over this :thumbs:

 

 

Right now on to the forum and ian b!!!!!

 

Ian you seem to have had a problem with me ever since i asked you about links in my signature!!! ive noticed it on a few posts where you have had dig about it but ffs i only asked a simple question and what i said about the forum on here is true but i suppose you know that already so it was wrong of me to say all that about it, its your forum you can do what you like with it!!! i sometimes wish i never joined the place and when i did the thread about leaving (which believe me i cringe at now when anyone mentions it :icon_redface:) i really was going, i signed in again to ask you to delete the account but when i saw all the comments and pms off people on here i realised i had made alot of good friends into the same game that i would never of without it its just a shame the bad ones out number the genuine people on here but like i said you run it not me, its none of my business what happens on here happy new year to you both

[fazza123 516]

John darcy i think its time for me to say a few things about my recent comments on this thread ive thought long and hard about what i have said and fully admit its come out wrong and made me look a twat lol i thought to myself about the "running dog addiction" review in the EDRD that i mentioned in one post and back tracked through my collection of magazines and finally found it in no.148 november 2004. Its by chris breen and i would like to comment on what he said as he says it alot better than me

 

On photographs he says " the book picks up momentum as we progress through the pages, each chapter telling us of feats only possible in the world of the running dog, and aptly backed by photographs of the most revealing nature. make no mistake, these are hard hitting, and some would accuse jonathan of "letting the side down", of doing our cause no good at all".

 

This is what i was trying to say on here but as we all know things get said on here in the heat of discussion and get posted alot quicker than if you was writing them when sat down on your own, with a cup of tea like i am now and actually thinking before i post

 

Clive breen then says "Well, id counter that by saying there is nothing in this book that hasn't been seen before and isn't available to be seen elsewhere if you dig deep enough!"

I think theres a little pun there lol and this is, of course, perfectly true and when i read it again after all these years i realised i was wrong to just call these books if its not these pictures anti-hunters will use against use they are plenty more behind them.

 

He continues "perhaps the timing for the books release could of been better (hunting was banned within 6 months of this review) but what is shown happens in the world of hunting with running dogs. some people can and want to do this sort of thing whist for others hounds, terriers or whatever, will be there cup of tea, and while it is legal, i dont see a problem. for how much longer it will be legal... well, that remains to be seen".

 

Again true and looking back the act would of been passed with or without these books.

 

Towards the end of the review chris says of the book "the last chapter, in my opinion, lets the book down a little with the contributors comments concerning the illegal activity of poaching" and this i agree with 100% there was far to much information in that chapter that personally i think should never of been disclosed in a published book FACT.

 

I hope this kind of clears my earlier comments up, im not a messer,i love my sport and have had dogs all my life just because none of you have heard of me or them does not mean im not entitled to an opinion on all things connected to them be it right or wrong in anyone else eyes so john ive said my piece and i wont mention it again you are free to do what you like, there is obviously a call for your work so good luck with it in the future and drop me a pm when you want to interview me for your next book i hope there is no hard feelings between us over this :thumbs:

 

 

Right now on to the forum and ian b!!!!!

 

Ian you seem to have had a problem with me ever since i asked you about links in my signature!!! ive noticed it on a few posts where you have had dig about it but ffs i only asked a simple question and what i said about the forum on here is true but i suppose you know that already so it was wrong of me to say all that about it, its your forum you can do what you like with it!!! i sometimes wish i never joined the place and when i did the thread about leaving (which believe me i cringe at now when anyone mentions it :icon_redface:) i really was going, i signed in again to ask you to delete the account but when i saw all the comments and pms off people on here i realised i had made alot of good friends into the same game that i would never of without it its just a shame the bad ones out number the genuine people on here but like i said you run it not me, its none of my business what happens on here happy new year to you both

 

Fair play to you mate,ive had a good chuckle reading your comments and didnt think there was any real malice in them!

Scooby was a top read JD keep it up

[runforyourlife 361]

John darcy i think its time for me to say a few things about my recent comments on this thread ive thought long and hard about what i have said and fully admit its come out wrong and made me look a twat lol i thought to myself about the "running dog addiction" review in the EDRD that i mentioned in one post and back tracked through my collection of magazines and finally found it in no.148 november 2004. Its by chris breen and i would like to comment on what he said as he says it alot better than me

 

On photographs he says " the book picks up momentum as we progress through the pages, each chapter telling us of feats only possible in the world of the running dog, and aptly backed by photographs of the most revealing nature. make no mistake, these are hard hitting, and some would accuse jonathan of "letting the side down", of doing our cause no good at all".

 

This is what i was trying to say on here but as we all know things get said on here in the heat of discussion and get posted alot quicker than if you was writing them when sat down on your own, with a cup of tea like i am now and actually thinking before i post

 

Clive breen then says "Well, id counter that by saying there is nothing in this book that hasn't been seen before and isn't available to be seen elsewhere if you dig deep enough!"

I think theres a little pun there lol and this is, of course, perfectly true and when i read it again after all these years i realised i was wrong to just call these books if its not these pictures anti-hunters will use against use they are plenty more behind them.

 

He continues "perhaps the timing for the books release could of been better (hunting was banned within 6 months of this review) but what is shown happens in the world of hunting with running dogs. some people can and want to do this sort of thing whist for others hounds, terriers or whatever, will be there cup of tea, and while it is legal, i dont see a problem. for how much longer it will be legal... well, that remains to be seen".

 

Again true and looking back the act would of been passed with or without these books.

 

Towards the end of the review chris says of the book "the last chapter, in my opinion, lets the book down a little with the contributors comments concerning the illegal activity of poaching" and this i agree with 100% there was far to much information in that chapter that personally i think should never of been disclosed in a published book FACT.

 

I hope this kind of clears my earlier comments up, im not a messer,i love my sport and have had dogs all my life just because none of you have heard of me or them does not mean im not entitled to an opinion on all things connected to them be it right or wrong in anyone else eyes so john ive said my piece and i wont mention it again you are free to do what you like, there is obviously a call for your work so good luck with it in the future and drop me a pm when you want to interview me for your next book i hope there is no hard feelings between us over this :thumbs:

 

 

Right now on to the forum and ian b!!!!!

 

Ian you seem to have had a problem with me ever since i asked you about links in my signature!!! ive noticed it on a few posts where you have had dig about it but ffs i only asked a simple question and what i said about the forum on here is true but i suppose you know that already so it was wrong of me to say all that about it, its your forum you can do what you like with it!!! i sometimes wish i never joined the place and when i did the thread about leaving (which believe me i cringe at now when anyone mentions it :icon_redface:) i really was going, i signed in again to ask you to delete the account but when i saw all the comments and pms off people on here i realised i had made alot of good friends into the same game that i would never of without it its just a shame the bad ones out number the genuine people on here but like i said you run it not me, its none of my business what happens on here happy new year to you both

 

 

so really stewie, you were trying to say what someone else had said... It wasnt your own thinking. It was because he had got in to your brain about the review of the book... Glad you come to your senses.lol... And you can talk sense sometimes

[DogFox123 1,379]

The book is a good Pictorial on the subject of Coursing.

Im still waiting for an Author to interview the necessary Folk and write a True Book on the subject.

Ie Bloodlines, Feeding and Training methods they used.

Recounting matches, Competitions, days out ect.

Starting from your Merlin and Eve breeding up to what was doing the business feb 14th 2005.

Interview the likes of

Kipper

Moyes

Sankey

Nuttal

Boozer

T Murray

G Ogden

T Howley

J Ford

K Hall

Rowley

Chalkey

ect

There are others too who's names slip my memory.

Some of the Travelling Lads who owned good stock.

Its a Book that needs writing , an indepth Hardback that does the game justice.

About the Men who took the game to another level.

Organised the Comps, days out.

 

I hope a good Author does his research and the said lads give the interviews and necessary info to get it done.

The Author imo dont need to be a Hunting man , just good at what he does.

Will it ever happen ????????

 

Good point, a coursing dog version of plummers fell terrier

[boyo 1,398]

a real top notch coursing book of good quality is long overdue and imo jd would be the bloke to get it done. and regarding his last two books ,as a book lover and collector of anything running dog imo they were both very good value for money which has been proved by how much they are fetching second hand and on flea bay .kept in good condition nearly all running dog books are a good investment .in todays climate .

[DogFox123 1,379]

a real top notch coursing book of good quality is long overdue and imo jd would be the bloke to get it done. and regarding his last two books ,as a book lover and collector of anything running dog imo they were both very good value for money which has been proved by how much they are fetching second hand and on flea bay .kept in good condition nearly all running dog books are a good investment .in todays climate .

 

As long as all the top men are interviewed in depth the book would be great, breedings of dogs, diet, conditioning methods, opinions of different crosses etc 3/4 greyhound x saluki v 1/2saluki x 1/2 greyhound. As long as the writer does some thorough research it will be top notch. It would also be helpful if the author tells us what breeding the dog is under each picture

Edited January 13, 2012 by DogFox123

[boyo 1,398]

a real top notch coursing book of good quality is long overdue and imo jd would be the bloke to get it done. and regarding his last two books ,as a book lover and collector of anything running dog imo they were both very good value for money which has been proved by how much they are fetching second hand and on flea bay .kept in good condition nearly all running dog books are a good investment .in todays climate .

 

As long as all the top men are interviewed in depth the book would be great, breedings of dogs, diet, conditioning methods, opinions of different crosses etc 3/4 greyhound x saluki v 1/2saluki x 1/2 greyhound. As long as the writer does some thorough research it will be top notch. It would also be helpful if the author tells us what breeding the dog is under each picture

agree with you on above because if it is going to be done it needs a lot of research in to it hope its of the same quality and feel as the last two were/are

[PoshPikey 560]

Agree with Karlsberg. There are a huge number of excellent dogs working in this country that are not matching on the fens or bragging on the internet. It would be great for them to be built into the book.

[DogFox123 1,379]

Agree with Karlsberg. There are a huge number of excellent dogs working in this country that are not matching on the fens or bragging on the internet. It would be great for them to be built into the book.

 

If these dogs are kept hidden then how would the author know them? Hed be better with the big names of the game as they are proven dogmen with good animals and people are familiar with them