Do you personally dislike immigrants?

[Guest crobinc840]

I can care less, eventually if we are able to be on this planet long enough we will all be one people on one planet. Now that you mention it though there sure are planty of English people living in America.

 

How many of them English people would you say get housing and state benefits in America?

I know of one American that gets both here and more.

 

Well I can even out your one with my one. My ex worked less years than he was on benefits in the US. All his 4 American wives worked while he had issues wanting to work. And before you make a crack about it he wasn't married to them all at once.

 

 

 

Hope you pick a better one next time

 

 

Yeah I'm sure my next ex will be much better I've decided marriage is a pain and I'm better off without it.

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

I think people are missing the point I hope that and believe most people in this country would gladly let someone settle that was to be persecuted and such but then we go into where we are geographically like someone said they didn't get on a plane straight here they would of come through numerous countries to get here so that goes to show if all they was bothered about was there safety of themselves and family why didn't they stop in the first safe country they came through because the government has made a mockery of this countries indigenous people then we get those that come here also for the money thr free healthcare the benefits that they will get claiming they got 6 kids back home and get benefits for them then they not only bleed this country dry they want to change the country completely and think of us as nothing but dirt is the nicest way to put it and that's where this is all coming from the British white people have had enough a person can only take so much like I said I don't mind people coming here for the right reasons but it's how much can the country afford to let in and what is there mindset torques the people of this country

 

 

 

 

Sorry rant over

[twobob 1,497]

I think people are missing the point I hope that and believe most people in this country would gladly let someone settle that was to be persecuted and such but then we go into where we are geographically like someone said they didn't get on a plane straight here they would of come through numerous countries to get here so that goes to show if all they was bothered about was there safety of themselves and family why didn't they stop in the first safe country they came through because the government has made a mockery of this countries indigenous people then we get those that come here also for the money thr free healthcare the benefits that they will get claiming they got 6 kids back home and get benefits for them then they not only bleed this country dry they want to change the country completely and think of us as nothing but dirt is the nicest way to put it and that's where this is all coming from the British white people have had enough a person can only take so much like I said I don't mind people coming here for the right reasons but it's how much can the country afford to let in and what is there mindset torques the people of this country

Spot on that post

 

 

 

Sorry rant over

[Hollie 21]

I think people are missing the point I hope that and believe most people in this country would gladly let someone settle that was to be persecuted and such but then we go into where we are geographically like someone said they didn't get on a plane straight here they would of come through numerous countries to get here so that goes to show if all they was bothered about was there safety of themselves and family why didn't they stop in the first safe country they came through because the government has made a mockery of this countries indigenous people then we get those that come here also for the money thr free healthcare the benefits that they will get claiming they got 6 kids back home and get benefits for them then they not only bleed this country dry they want to change the country completely and think of us as nothing but dirt is the nicest way to put it and that's where this is all coming from the British white people have had enough a person can only take so much like I said I don't mind people coming here for the right reasons but it's how much can the country afford to let in and what is there mindset torques the people of this country

 

 

 

 

Sorry rant over

 

Whats white got to do with it, I'm as Britsh as you yet i am not 100% white, so where does that leave me??

[Bulldogman 55]

I think its the lack of control on the immigration issue that is the worrying aspect. Yes corporate leaders get a cheap workforce and make more profit from EU membership allowing every costa worker being from the EU, thats just one issue.

 

My main concern is why people will strap themselves onto the underside of hgv's to get in. Why do some many iraqui and afghans travel across a continent to get here. Yes free housing and asylum claim, but how many are being persecuted for crimes in their homelands. How many rapists/murderers and theives have snuck in, undetected to commit further acts in the uk?

 

As an island nation we should be able to police our borders better than any other eu state, but we have left the doors wide open. Bring our troops back from Afghanistan, put them on the ports/airports ect. Shoot on site policy for any immigrant trying to sneak in, no benefits if you have crossed other safe countries to get here, instant deportation if here illegally, no appeals process, any criminal conviction in first five years, deportation.

 

Being here is a privelidge, we should not be a soft touch for all the scum of the world to come and bleed dry.

 

As the son of an irish immigrant i dont think it's a race issue but one of national security and resources.

[twobob 1,497]

I think people are missing the point I hope that and believe most people in this country would gladly let someone settle that was to be persecuted and such but then we go into where we are geographically like someone said they didn't get on a plane straight here they would of come through numerous countries to get here so that goes to show if all they was bothered about was there safety of themselves and family why didn't they stop in the first safe country they came through because the government has made a mockery of this countries indigenous people then we get those that come here also for the money thr free healthcare the benefits that they will get claiming they got 6 kids back home and get benefits for them then they not only bleed this country dry they want to change the country completely and think of us as nothing but dirt is the nicest way to put it and that's where this is all coming from the British white people have had enough a person can only take so much like I said I don't mind people coming here for the right reasons but it's how much can the country afford to let in and what is there mindset torques the people of this country

 

 

 

 

Sorry rant over

Good post/rant

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

I think people are missing the point I hope that and believe most people in this country would gladly let someone settle that was to be persecuted and such but then we go into where we are geographically like someone said they didn't get on a plane straight here they would of come through numerous countries to get here so that goes to show if all they was bothered about was there safety of themselves and family why didn't they stop in the first safe country they came through because the government has made a mockery of this countries indigenous people then we get those that come here also for the money thr free healthcare the benefits that they will get claiming they got 6 kids back home and get benefits for them then they not only bleed this country dry they want to change the country completely and think of us as nothing but dirt is the nicest way to put it and that's where this is all coming from the British white people have had enough a person can only take so much like I said I don't mind people coming here for the right reasons but it's how much can the country afford to let in and what is there mindset torques the people of this country

 

 

 

 

Sorry rant over

 

Whats white got to do with it, I'm as Britsh as you yet i am not 100% white, so where does that leave me??

 

 

well if you dont know what i mean you never will and dont call me racist as i got diff races in my family

[WILF 47,353]

Remember, shite comes in every colour.......this country hasnt got a black problem or a muslim problem or a chinese problem or a bosnian problem, oh no.........

 

This country has got a scum problem ...........some of these BNP and EDL and Muslim and Black "groups" should hold a mirror up to themselves and elements of their own society before they cast the stones......

 

Some things you can say are facts, not racist, just facts......most skag heads are white, most muggers are black (at least in my area), Africa cant sort itself out, Englands moral standards have gone down the bog, India is pretty filthy.........all facts.

 

Some of these clowns you see banging on about "da immigrants" have probly got a couple of chav kids, hanging on some street corner, listening to "gangsta rap" and smoking weed...think they need to sort out things closer to home first.

 

My good pal is on his 2nd tour of Afgan at the moment, one of his best buddys is a black lad......do you think they give a f**k?, course they dont, they would both save each others life in an instant if it came to it.

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

I think its the lack of control on the immigration issue that is the worrying aspect. Yes corporate leaders get a cheap workforce and make more profit from EU membership allowing every costa worker being from the EU, thats just one issue.

 

My main concern is why people will strap themselves onto the underside of hgv's to get in. Why do some many iraqui and afghans travel across a continent to get here. Yes free housing and asylum claim, but how many are being persecuted for crimes in their homelands. How many rapists/murderers and theives have snuck in, undetected to commit further acts in the uk?

 

As an island nation we should be able to police our borders better than any other eu state, but we have left the doors wide open. Bring our troops back from Afghanistan, put them on the ports/airports ect. Shoot on site policy for any immigrant trying to sneak in, no benefits if you have crossed other safe countries to get here, instant deportation if here illegally, no appeals process, any criminal conviction in first five years, deportation.

 

Being here is a privelidge, we should not be a soft touch for all the scum of the world to come and bleed dry.

 

As the son of an irish immigrant i dont think it's a race issue but one of national security and resources.

 

exactly my point mate i got irish blood in me and some of my family are mixed race but i class myself as british and my loyalties are to this country not to some country that i supposedly have had to flee from for my my life then try and implement those exact same laws here where i just ran away from

[staffs riffraff 1,068]

I think its the lack of control on the immigration issue that is the worrying aspect. Yes corporate leaders get a cheap workforce and make more profit from EU membership allowing every costa worker being from the EU, thats just one issue.

 

My main concern is why people will strap themselves onto the underside of hgv's to get in. Why do some many iraqui and afghans travel across a continent to get here. Yes free housing and asylum claim, but how many are being persecuted for crimes in their homelands. How many rapists/murderers and theives have snuck in, undetected to commit further acts in the uk?

 

As an island nation we should be able to police our borders better than any other eu state, but we have left the doors wide open. Bring our troops back from Afghanistan, put them on the ports/airports ect. Shoot on site policy for any immigrant trying to sneak in, no benefits if you have crossed other safe countries to get here, instant deportation if here illegally, no appeals process, any criminal conviction in first five years, deportation.

 

Being here is a privelidge, we should not be a soft touch for all the scum of the world to come and bleed dry.

 

As the son of an irish immigrant i dont think it's a race issue but one of national security and resources.

 

thats what i was saying its the motives behind the person

[Hollie 21]

I think its the lack of control on the immigration issue that is the worrying aspect. Yes corporate leaders get a cheap workforce and make more profit from EU membership allowing every costa worker being from the EU, thats just one issue.

 

My main concern is why people will strap themselves onto the underside of hgv's to get in. Why do some many iraqui and afghans travel across a continent to get here. Yes free housing and asylum claim, but how many are being persecuted for crimes in their homelands. How many rapists/murderers and theives have snuck in, undetected to commit further acts in the uk?

 

As an island nation we should be able to police our borders better than any other eu state, but we have left the doors wide open. Bring our troops back from Afghanistan, put them on the ports/airports ect. Shoot on site policy for any immigrant trying to sneak in, no benefits if you have crossed other safe countries to get here, instant deportation if here illegally, no appeals process, any criminal conviction in first five years, deportation.

 

Being here is a privelidge, we should not be a soft touch for all the scum of the world to come and bleed dry.

 

As the son of an irish immigrant i dont think it's a race issue but one of national security and resources.

 

exactly my point mate i got irish blood in me and some of my family are mixed race but i class myself as british and my loyalties are to this country not to some country that i supposedly have had to flee from for my my life then try and implement those exact same laws here where i just ran away from

 

I never called you racist, i was merely asking why the word white was stuck in there, like i said, i am British, i am just not as white skinned as some, this issue will always turn into a race war when people with half a brain know it shouldn't but it is the people that post the words like 'send them all back, shoot all the blacks, muslims' etc that tar everyone with an opinion on the subject with the same brush, i personally think the goverment need to step up and do something but i don't hate the individual people that come over, i take everyone on a face to face basis, if they are a cock they are a cock, simple as, doesn't matter what colour their skin is

[gnasher16 30,242]

What you are dealing with here is human nature.....if you push peoples loyalties long and hard enough they will eventually turn.......ive said for many years theres only so much people will take,what we are seeing today is people with no racially hateful bones in their body 20 years ago,being called racists in todays society for the simple reason that they have had enough !

 

I remember growing up in east london with plenty of black pals,and still have to this day.....what we would call " cockney blacks "....in other words they were the same as us just a different colour......we could all laugh,take the piss out of each other without a problem.......but today everybody is so scared of the word " racist " we,re all walking around on eggshells frightened of offending someone,and the joke of it all is the ones who miss the way it used to be most are the old cockney blacks i just referred to !!

 

To expect English people to be pushed aside in favour of people we have nothing in common with,who make no effort with us,who are poncing off us every day........is unrealistic.........hate is a strong word i dont know id go that far......but its human nature not to like it,which in turn i guess is not liking them.

[just jack 998]

What you are dealing with here is human nature.....if you push peoples loyalties long and hard enough they will eventually turn.......ive said for many years theres only so much people will take,what we are seeing today is people with no racially hateful bones in their body 20 years ago,being called racists in todays society for the simple reason that they have had enough !

 

I remember growing up in east london with plenty of black pals,and still have to this day.....what we would call " cockney blacks "....in other words they were the same as us just a different colour......we could all laugh,take the piss out of each other without a problem.......but today everybody is so scared of the word " racist " we,re all walking around on eggshells frightened of offending someone,and the joke of it all is the ones who miss the way it used to be most are the old cockney blacks i just referred to !!

 

To expect English people to be pushed aside in favour of people we have nothing in common with,who make no effort with us,who are poncing off us every day........is unrealistic.........hate is a strong word i dont know id go that far......but its human nature not to like it,which in turn i guess is not liking them.

 

thats a very good explanation of some comments on here,

as i have a few black pals also. i also don't think that this thread started off as a racist 1

[andyfr1968 772]

What you are dealing with here is human nature.....if you push peoples loyalties long and hard enough they will eventually turn.......ive said for many years theres only so much people will take,what we are seeing today is people with no racially hateful bones in their body 20 years ago,being called racists in todays society for the simple reason that they have had enough !

 

I remember growing up in east london with plenty of black pals,and still have to this day.....what we would call " cockney blacks "....in other words they were the same as us just a different colour......we could all laugh,take the piss out of each other without a problem.......but today everybody is so scared of the word " racist " we,re all walking around on eggshells frightened of offending someone,and the joke of it all is the ones who miss the way it used to be most are the old cockney blacks i just referred to !!

 

To expect English people to be pushed aside in favour of people we have nothing in common with,who make no effort with us,who are poncing off us every day........is unrealistic.........hate is a strong word i dont know id go that far......but its human nature not to like it,which in turn i guess is not liking them.

 

Very well put.

 

I have close friends from most creeds and colours and some of them are very critical of the way many of their kins folk have come over to the UK and openly take the piss.

 

One of my best mate's is a Muslim and he's properly ashamed about the way so many behave when they reach our shores. The way they segregate themselves and refuse to accept any other culture or ideas other than their own. The way they take over an area and turn it in to the kind of dump they claim to be fleeing from. The way a minority of them can continue to preach hate towards us even after they've been given asylum in the west. It's like a sub-culture within our own culture (what's left of it...) and it's one that'll never see things the way most of the rest of us do. Totaly different set of values and morals..... It's not working and it never will.

 

I am NOT a raceist and I feel rather awkward in saying what I just have but by looking around me and seeing what's going on makes me feel very uneasy about my kids future. Multi culture Britain is not working and it never will the way things are going.

Edited December 29, 2010 by andyfr1968

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