PUPS

[david2363 42]

This fella is 6 months old, he's fed 3 times a day on a mix of complete dry food 30% and raw meat (my mate is a butcher) his legs are well muscled but he's quite thin down his spine.

Dogs can mirror humanity, in that some are destined to be thin (high metabolism) and some are destined to be heavy. You can do no wrong if you feed them a healthy diet and get them out as much as possible.

[heart of wales 19]

This fella is 6 months old, he's fed 3 times a day on a mix of complete dry food 30% and raw meat (my mate is a butcher) his legs are well muscled but he's quite thin down his spine.

Dogs can mirror humanity, in that some are destined to be thin (high metabolism) and some are destined to be heavy. You can do no wrong if you feed them a healthy diet and get them out as much as possible.

W

[cymruguy69 5]

Cheers for the info guys big help makes me feel much more confident in what I'm doing!!

 

When do you think you should stop feeding your pup twice a day some say 5 months some say 8 what is all your opinions???

Edited January 11, 2007 by cymruguy69

[Guest oldskool]

i feed my pups twice a day till around 5 montths old then on one meal like the rest of the dogs

 

 

same here mate....

[wild dog 9]

i feed mine 3 times a day till 6 month then 2 time till 12 months then one

i like to give them a good start so you can get the best out of them my old

bitch is 17 and still going strong

[DIGGIT 6]

Hi all

i dont think its how much you give your pups that is the prob here, i think its comes down to the quality of the food you give your pups.

i dont go much on the baged foods for pups, i know there are some good feeds out there but i like to keep it old school, like good fresh meats beef / lamb or chickin, have a boilup with all the meat and bones i also use veg in the boilup aswell only use root veg such as carrots parsnips spuds things like that add some oxo's in there and some cuts of fat when it is all cooked up and looking good in a broth take the bones out and pour it over some brown loafs of bread and mix it all in with your hands and then feed the pups accordingly.

then see how much is left, not a lot i know.

 

I also like to put some sa37 or redcell in the mix to, bonemeal is the best but you cant get your hands on it any more.

i feed my pups twice a day till around 5 to 6 months.

 

when i was a kid my grandfather use to keep bull terriers the old bugger has passed away now but i can always remember him telling me to get a dog looking good and doing good on the outside you must always put good on the inside. .

 

 

[DIGGIT 6]

ive put some pics up for you snoopdog, the pups are comeing on good

there 3 weeks old now

[Guest MOLLY]

For future ref Diggit....

 

Good Veggies' & Fruits to Feed (Foods you can feel good about feeding. Add lots of green leafy vegetables)

Courgettes-

Romaine (COS) Lettuce - High nutritional value

Ice Berg Lettuce - has no nutritional value but is OK to feed. You can use as a filler.

Tomatoes (avoid the leaves and stems) -

Carrots - These are high in sugars so be careful

Celery - Not much nutritional value but is a good diuretic.

Bok Choy -

Parsley-

Oranges -

Apples (not the seeds) -

peas-

Bananas -

Alfalpha Sprouts -

Bell Peppers (Capsicum) - red, green and yellow

Fresh Pumpkin (not the canned pie filling) -

Silver Beat -

Beet Root -

Kale -

Cilantro -

Mustard Greens -

Dandelions -

Marrow-

Yams -

Sweet Potatoes -

Asparagus -

Jicama (remove skin) -

Parsnip -

Turnips -

Sprouts -

 

Caution Veggies' & Fruits (Foods you can feed but with cautions)

Garlic - fed in small amounts is very beneficial for your dog. It is considered natures antibiotic. However, to much can cause anaemia and upset stomach. So when making your veggie mix, use 1-3 cloves but no more.

Grapes / raisins- (in high amounts) Dogs exhibit gastrointestinal problems, including vomiting and diarrhoea and then signs of kidney failure with an onset of severe kidney signs starting about 24 hours after ingestion of the grapes or raisins.

Eggplant - OK to feed the fruit but avoid any other parts. They can cause upset stomach, drooling, lethargy, heart failure

Avocados (& leaves) - Stay away from the leaves. The fruit part is OK to feed in small amounts.

Spinach, Swiss Chard, and Rhubarb - OK in small amounts. While these are not toxic, they are high in oxalic acid, a compound that interferes with calcium absorption, so don't feed these very often.

Cabbage/Broccoli/Cauliflower - OK to feed in small amounts but may cause gas. If fed frequently and in large amounts these will depress the thyroid.

Potatoes -

Cautions: If your dog is diabetic or has arthritis and has/had cancer then you may want to stay away from underground veggies because they convert to starch/sugar which aggravates arthritis. Cancer cells also thrive on sugars.

 

Bad Veggies' & Fruits (Foods to be avoided all together)

Onions & (onion powder) - upset stomach, and can cause Heinz body anaemia.

Feed them raw blitzed in the food processor with a little oil, the mix should be like slop.

 

MOLL.

[DIGGIT 6]

For future ref Diggit....

 

Good Veggies' & Fruits to Feed (Foods you can feel good about feeding. Add lots of green leafy vegetables)

Courgettes-

Romaine (COS) Lettuce - High nutritional value

Ice Berg Lettuce - has no nutritional value but is OK to feed. You can use as a filler.

Tomatoes (avoid the leaves and stems) -

Carrots - These are high in sugars so be careful

Celery - Not much nutritional value but is a good diuretic.

Bok Choy -

Parsley-

Oranges -

Apples (not the seeds) -

peas-

Bananas -

Alfalpha Sprouts -

Bell Peppers (Capsicum) - red, green and yellow

Fresh Pumpkin (not the canned pie filling) -

Silver Beat -

Beet Root -

Kale -

Cilantro -

Mustard Greens -

Dandelions -

Marrow-

Yams -

Sweet Potatoes -

Asparagus -

Jicama (remove skin) -

Parsnip -

Turnips -

Sprouts -

 

Caution Veggies' & Fruits (Foods you can feed but with cautions)

Garlic - fed in small amounts is very beneficial for your dog. It is considered natures antibiotic. However, to much can cause anaemia and upset stomach. So when making your veggie mix, use 1-3 cloves but no more.

Grapes / raisins- (in high amounts) Dogs exhibit gastrointestinal problems, including vomiting and diarrhoea and then signs of kidney failure with an onset of severe kidney signs starting about 24 hours after ingestion of the grapes or raisins.

Eggplant - OK to feed the fruit but avoid any other parts. They can cause upset stomach, drooling, lethargy, heart failure

Avocados (& leaves) - Stay away from the leaves. The fruit part is OK to feed in small amounts.

Spinach, Swiss Chard, and Rhubarb - OK in small amounts. While these are not toxic, they are high in oxalic acid, a compound that interferes with calcium absorption, so don't feed these very often.

Cabbage/Broccoli/Cauliflower - OK to feed in small amounts but may cause gas. If fed frequently and in large amounts these will depress the thyroid.

Potatoes -

Cautions: If your dog is diabetic or has arthritis and has/had cancer then you may want to stay away from underground veggies because they convert to starch/sugar which aggravates arthritis. Cancer cells also thrive on sugars.

 

Bad Veggies' & Fruits (Foods to be avoided all together)

Onions & (onion powder) - upset stomach, and can cause Heinz body anaemia.

Feed them raw blitzed in the food processor with a little oil, the mix should be like slop.

 

MOLL.

hi MOLL

some nice info there, but like i say to most peeps if they take the old root of feeding you must work out the mixs, i tend to work on a 20% veg 30% bread & 50% meat mix and in winter i replace the meat with tripe, but keep in mind how much work you give your dog as tripe is very fatty and you could soon put weight on the dog.

 

i have always uesed this mix i find it keeps the dogs looking good and they don't get the shits on it, but all dogs are not the same so find the mix that works for the dog.

[Guest MOLLY]

all dogs are not the same so find the mix that works for the dog.

Def

Imo (not saying im right) 30% bread seems rather alot it can only serve to make the meal/tummies bigger, not giving very much nutritional value. Plus other than roughage i cannot see the need for bread, you are adding a great deal of preservatives, salt and unnatural, man made ingredients into the diet. I always used pure bran. Not very expensive and a little goes a long way. You can get it from Asdas.

I know i could be beating my head against a stone wall wall here as it seems to be the old way of feeding dogs....but in those days there were very little man made crap added to the bread.

As i said jmo, i know ive fed complete/tinned food occasionally so not trying to be a hypocrite.....but if you are looking at barf in its purest form then these things should be taken into consideration and human food usually has more preservatives than even processed dog food :sick:

MOLL.

[DIGGIT 6]

Hi MOLLY

30% Bread may seem alot for a dogs diet that is why in the last post i quoted that i used brown bread as it is low in salt high in fibre and carbohydrate and contains yeast and wheat germ also i did not make myself very clear when getting your brown bread, always try to get your bread from a bakery and not of the shelf at tesco i am lucky where i live due to the fact there is a baker close by who lets me have all his left over brown loafs wholegrain is a good one to use, i found that using pure bran on pups and younger dogs will give them the shits straight away as will weetabix as these contain a higher cereal content in them.

 

you'll find that most greyhound trainers will use this method of feeding up and down the country, basicly the 30% bread in the dogs diet is no diffrent to the cereal content in a complete dog food you will find in many cases that the cereal content may be higher as they need the cereal to bind the extracted meat fats and juices which make up complete baged dog food.