olim 28 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 There is a need for some new laws here! If your dog attacks and kills a human then there should be a mandatory prison sentence. If it attacks n seriously injures then fine/possible prison sentence. Dog destroyed in all cases. Along with introduction of mandatory dog training classes for certain breeds. The cost of which along with these new laws would hopefully dissuade the bad elements from keeping them in the first place. How many times do we read in the paper of children , a baby or even owners being ravaged and killed by sweet natured gentle as a butterfly homeloving fighting dogs. You know the Breeds. The public need protected, from the element that use them as a |I`m tougher than you look at my! BIG ANGRY DOG! element. They need educating and training before being allowed anywhere near these breeds. would'nt be able to do that it is too complicated, they should just ban certain people from owning animals and have decent prison sentences if they are caught with them, bad things are going to happen in life you cant stop all of them from happening just try and prevent it, there are probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of dogs in the country and you hear of one of these accidents every 6 months or so, so they are freak accidents. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
littlefish 586 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 There is a need for some new laws here! If your dog attacks and kills a human then there should be a mandatory prison sentence. If it attacks n seriously injures then fine/possible prison sentence. Dog destroyed in all cases. Along with introduction of mandatory dog training classes for certain breeds. The cost of which along with these new laws would hopefully dissuade the bad elements from keeping them in the first place. How many times do we read in the paper of children , a baby or even owners being ravaged and killed by sweet natured gentle as a butterfly homeloving fighting dogs. You know the Breeds. The public need protected, from the element that use them as a |I`m tougher than you look at my! BIG ANGRY DOG! element. They need educating and training before being allowed anywhere near these breeds. would'nt be able to do that it is too complicated, they should just ban certain people from owning animals and have decent prison sentences if they are caught with them, bad things are going to happen in life you cant stop all of them from happening just try and prevent it, there are probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of dogs in the country and you hear of one of these accidents every 6 months or so, so they are freak accidents. FREAK ACCIDENTS in the words of the legendary Jim Royle 'MY ARSE!' Timebombs, disasters waiting to happen more like. I would say an accident is something unforseen, unpredictable. This is not the case at all with these knuckledraggers who keep these type of dogs for what exactly??? I reallly can't think of a sensible reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
robo-christ 40 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 lets keep it in proportion,because of the irresponsibility of 1 person (the owner) a woman has died,nothing to do with breed etc 1 man is responsible not all dog's that fit a certain demo-graph. I know a man who keeps 2 aggressive rottweilers,and i mean they would kill you without hesitation if they had a chance,but because the man has some foresight and common sense he doesnt give those dogs the chance to hurt anyone (except maybe a burglar). we don't need more red tape we just need to make people responsible for their animals. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olim 28 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 There is a need for some new laws here! If your dog attacks and kills a human then there should be a mandatory prison sentence. If it attacks n seriously injures then fine/possible prison sentence. Dog destroyed in all cases. Along with introduction of mandatory dog training classes for certain breeds. The cost of which along with these new laws would hopefully dissuade the bad elements from keeping them in the first place. How many times do we read in the paper of children , a baby or even owners being ravaged and killed by sweet natured gentle as a butterfly homeloving fighting dogs. You know the Breeds. The public need protected, from the element that use them as a |I`m tougher than you look at my! BIG ANGRY DOG! element. They need educating and training before being allowed anywhere near these breeds. would'nt be able to do that it is too complicated, they should just ban certain people from owning animals and have decent prison sentences if they are caught with them, bad things are going to happen in life you cant stop all of them from happening just try and prevent it, there are probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of dogs in the country and you hear of one of these accidents every 6 months or so, so they are freak accidents. FREAK ACCIDENTS in the words of the legendary Jim Royle 'MY ARSE!' Timebombs, disasters waiting to happen more like. I would say an accident is something unforseen, unpredictable. This is not the case at all with these knuckledraggers who keep these type of dogs for what exactly??? I reallly can't think of a sensible reason. I dont know about the breed of dog in this case but the only dog that should be banned is banned pitbulls. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rikjd 8 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 There is a need for some new laws here! If your dog attacks and kills a human then there should be a mandatory prison sentence. If it attacks n seriously injures then fine/possible prison sentence. Dog destroyed in all cases. Along with introduction of mandatory dog training classes for certain breeds. The cost of which along with these new laws would hopefully dissuade the bad elements from keeping them in the first place. How many times do we read in the paper of children , a baby or even owners being ravaged and killed by sweet natured gentle as a butterfly homeloving fighting dogs. You know the Breeds. The public need protected, from the element that use them as a |I`m tougher than you look at my! BIG ANGRY DOG! element. They need educating and training before being allowed anywhere near these breeds. would'nt be able to do that it is too complicated, they should just ban certain people from owning animals and have decent prison sentences if they are caught with them, bad things are going to happen in life you cant stop all of them from happening just try and prevent it, there are probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of dogs in the country and you hear of one of these accidents every 6 months or so, so they are freak accidents. FREAK ACCIDENTS in the words of the legendary Jim Royle 'MY ARSE!' Timebombs, disasters waiting to happen more like. I would say an accident is something unforseen, unpredictable. This is not the case at all with these knuckledraggers who keep these type of dogs for what exactly??? I reallly can't think of a sensible reason. I dont know about the breed of dog in this case but the only dog that should be banned is banned pitbulls. what makes pitbulls different to any other breed of dog? they are a highly driven dog and tenacious but if trained right and looked after properly are just the same as any other dog. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
olim 28 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 There is a need for some new laws here! If your dog attacks and kills a human then there should be a mandatory prison sentence. If it attacks n seriously injures then fine/possible prison sentence. Dog destroyed in all cases. Along with introduction of mandatory dog training classes for certain breeds. The cost of which along with these new laws would hopefully dissuade the bad elements from keeping them in the first place. How many times do we read in the paper of children , a baby or even owners being ravaged and killed by sweet natured gentle as a butterfly homeloving fighting dogs. You know the Breeds. The public need protected, from the element that use them as a |I`m tougher than you look at my! BIG ANGRY DOG! element. They need educating and training before being allowed anywhere near these breeds. would'nt be able to do that it is too complicated, they should just ban certain people from owning animals and have decent prison sentences if they are caught with them, bad things are going to happen in life you cant stop all of them from happening just try and prevent it, there are probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of dogs in the country and you hear of one of these accidents every 6 months or so, so they are freak accidents. FREAK ACCIDENTS in the words of the legendary Jim Royle 'MY ARSE!' Timebombs, disasters waiting to happen more like. I would say an accident is something unforseen, unpredictable. This is not the case at all with these knuckledraggers who keep these type of dogs for what exactly??? I reallly can't think of a sensible reason. I dont know about the breed of dog in this case but the only dog that should be banned is banned pitbulls. what makes pitbulls different to any other breed of dog? they are a highly driven dog and tenacious but if trained right and looked after properly are just the same as any other dog. I agree if they are properly trained but the majority of these incidents are pitbulls and they are also the choice of the chavy idiots that give them the bad name. I disagree that people shouldnt be allowed to have dogs over a certain size though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bullterrier Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 There is a need for some new laws here! If your dog attacks and kills a human then there should be a mandatory prison sentence. If it attacks n seriously injures then fine/possible prison sentence. Dog destroyed in all cases. Along with introduction of mandatory dog training classes for certain breeds. The cost of which along with these new laws would hopefully dissuade the bad elements from keeping them in the first place. How many times do we read in the paper of children , a baby or even owners being ravaged and killed by sweet natured gentle as a butterfly homeloving fighting dogs. You know the Breeds. The public need protected, from the element that use them as a |I`m tougher than you look at my! BIG ANGRY DOG! element. They need educating and training before being allowed anywhere near these breeds. would'nt be able to do that it is too complicated, they should just ban certain people from owning animals and have decent prison sentences if they are caught with them, bad things are going to happen in life you cant stop all of them from happening just try and prevent it, there are probably hundreds of thousands if not millions of dogs in the country and you hear of one of these accidents every 6 months or so, so they are freak accidents. FREAK ACCIDENTS in the words of the legendary Jim Royle 'MY ARSE!' Timebombs, disasters waiting to happen more like. I would say an accident is something unforseen, unpredictable. This is not the case at all with these knuckledraggers who keep these type of dogs for what exactly??? I reallly can't think of a sensible reason. I dont know about the breed of dog in this case but the only dog that should be banned is banned pitbulls. every time there is news of a dog attacking some one are local paper as a pictures of a pitbull on the front page [sells papers] but the last one was a shih tzu biting a kids face i know people who have Pitts great dogs in the right hands john Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tango 221 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 there are good points that are good on this and some that are media derived bollocks no pup is born to bite there are two types of incident 1 is where someone that couldnt handle a russel gets a bull and the whole thing goes tits up,the dog only knows what its been brought up to think is what is required of it 2 is where people forget they have a dog and not a person and leave that dog in the company of a child with probing and pulling hands and no sense of danger from that animal or its warnings and they end up bit both these went wrong at the human element rottweilers bite more people in a year than bulls but they arent on the dangerous dogs,why because when it was written there were goverment agencies with them in service and they most importantly were regestered with the kennel club rotties aside i would bet that there are more people bitten by toy breeds in a year but it wouldnt be sensational reading in the paper finally at the end of my rant there are more children scared for life in malice by humans in one year than dogs in five years but we dont put them down unfortunatly anyones dog that attacks someone should be done for having a dangerous weapon with intent and sentenced accordingly after all if you train it to bite it will Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zap 4 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 any dog can go nuts and attack i feel pitbulls get a rough deal is there any stats for the number of dog attacks and the breeds i would be surprised if collies are not high on the list 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lapin2008 1,587 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 any dog can go nuts and attack i feel pitbulls get a rough deal is there any stats for the number of dog attacks and the breeds i would be surprised if collies are not high on the list I have seen the stats somewhere before have googled now but no luck, I think the collies were 3rd most common with russels and possibly yorkies or something like that right at the top, the pitbulls were down at number 8 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Caravan Monster 323 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) Pretty much agree with all the above posts, but to keep things in perspective (because the media wont) there are probably more people killed by horses every year. And the media perspective will no doubt direct public opinion and facilitate the enactment of the Dog Control Bill. This is supposed to replace the Dangerous Dogs Act 1991. However, the proposed legislation covers wider aspects of dog behaviour than the problem of muppets with untrained and out of control dogs. If it becomes law, could well do more than the hunting ban to end lurcher and terrier work in this country. I suspect it could also enable local councils to give RSPC@ officers the legal powers they want. The way it is written is very vague and could be interpreted in any number of ways by the courts and officers of the law. Section 2.1.b is concerning: 2 Control of dogs (1) No person shall— ( B ) encourage a dog to be aggressive or to intimidate people or other animals; For anyone that cares about the possibility of further restrictions on dog work, or the RSPC@ getting enforcement powers here's the bill in it's current form Edited December 26, 2010 by Caravan Monster Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 it makes me f****n laugh a woman gets killed by some dog that is nothing like a pit bull and in the same breath pits are being mentioned i feel sorry for the woman and her family but it all come down to personal responsibilty thats whats wrong with this country no one can take the blame for there own actions. and saying pits are dangerous dogs is ONLY right when they are in the wrong hands the amount of true pitbulls that actually attack people will be in the lowest 5% of breeds i guarantee it and when you here of a pitbull attack 90%of them are just mongrels i seen one once that was described as a pit type but was a boxer thhat would have done well in kc shows go figure how does that work i tell you why HEADLINES thats what its about and the most likely dogs to attack people like someone said are these lapdogs collies labs alsations rottys and most bites occur as the dog is a nervous wreck so it shows aggresion and there first instinct is to bite Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 the day i buried my dog a few months ago that would of been classed as a dangerous dog as it was a pitbull type i was outside a shop waiting for a mate and an oldish woman comes and ties her dog up she goes into the shop a jack russle type but bigger than a normal russell leeves the dog there a little girl comes past on her bike and the dog jumps up gets a good bite of the girls leg the little girl was screaming riding off but because the governmentr and media say my type of dog is dangerous i shouldnt have had it but i would trust that gog 1 million % with people and dogs Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rikjd 8 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 (edited) i think the dog bite list was topped by daschunds with JRT and chihuahas close after and collies 5th if i remember rightly, and pitbulls came in at 7th but how true those stats are is another matter as it was from an insurance company in america. Edited to add this: 10.English Springer Spaniel 9. Great Dane 8. Pitbull 7. Border Collie 6. Cocker Spaniel 5. Australian Cattle Dog 4. Beagle 3. Jack Russell Terrier 2. Chihuahua 1. Dachsund Edited December 26, 2010 by rikjd Quote Link to post Share on other sites
staffs riffraff 1,068 Posted December 26, 2010 Report Share Posted December 26, 2010 Them stats can be made to look how you want as it doesn't consider the numbers and type of owners but most I seen either say pitbulls in the top percent or the bottom percent depending on your incentive Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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