Checking up on the law

[Sexy_Shot 5]

Hey guys, I'm hindering a bit before i go shooting next, as when i went with my friend, a couple of days ago we got pulled by the police, We only have to walk a mile to our permission, so we took the back way only having to walk across a main road once, thats when they got us, they told us it's illegal to walk to your permission?

 

not sure what to do, and after explaining we're insured he let us carry on and said happy hunting....

 

 

Can someone please explain to me who is in the right and wrong?

 

 

Cheers

 

 

Trev

 

 

p.s Bearing in mind we're both 16, Cheers again

[hunter1989 91]

hi buddy

 

you are aloud to walk to your permission as long as the rifles not loaded and its in a gun slip and you walking safely with it.

 

i walk to my permssion with no problems

 

atb steve

[rossi_j 99]

If your rifle is in a slip you can take it werever you want, also it must be unloaded and the mag must be empty.

Thats what I think anyway, im sure someone will correct me if im wrong. Altho just make sure your not tresspassing to get to your permission because thats a whole different ball game.

.atb. .ste.

[Sexy_Shot 5]

hi buddy

 

you are aloud to walk to your permission as long as the rifles not loaded and its in a gun slip and you walking safely with it.

 

i walk to my permssion with no problems

 

atb steve

 

But is that 100% legal?

 

And would i have to notify the police? or would that be best, cause its annoying, they went over every scrawny bit of the law which meant no sense to me? I think they didn't know what they were talking about so made it up?

 

lucky they didnt get the aru out :/

 

 

Trev

[Sexy_Shot 5]

If your rifle is in a slip you can take it werever you want, also it must be unloaded and the mag must be empty.

Thats what I think anyway, im sure someone will correct me if im wrong. Altho just make sure your not tresspassing to get to your permission because thats a whole different ball game.

.atb. .ste.

 

 

I don't have to cross any land so thats all good right?

 

 

Trev

 

 

[Sexy_Shot 5]

just had a quick read

 

 

Air guns and Young Persons:

The laws concerning the use of air guns by young persons are as follows:-

Any one under the age of 14 can only use an air gun whilst under the direct

supervision and control of someone over 21, whilst on private property with the

permission of the owner of the premises.

A person aged between 14 and 17 can use an air gun on private property where they

have a right to be, without supervision.

They may carry an unloaded rifle (but not a pistol) in a public place only if it is in a

securely fastened gun cover so that it cannot be fired, an under 14 year old must

again be directly supervised by an over 21 year old.

A pistol can only be carried by someone over 17, again it must be unloaded and in a

securely fastened case.

 

&

 

 

Public Places and Highways:

You may never have an air gun in a public place without proper reason for doing so.

If you are travelling to and from a place where you have the right to shoot, the gun

must be in a case as above. A gun is loaded if there is a pellet or any form of

projectile in it, including an "air weapon which has a loaded magazine, is loaded even

though there is no round in the breach".

It is an offence to fire an air gun within 50 feet of the centre of a public highway, if by

doing so you cause any member of the public using that highway to be injured,

interrupted or endangered. This applies even if you are on private property adjacent

the highway. Public highways include roads, bridleways and public footpaths.

[rossi_j 99]

There you go mate, print that off and if you get stoped, give it to them, they will be impressed

[Sexy_Shot 5]

There you go mate, print that off and if you get stoped, give it to them, they will be impressed

 

thats a plan

 

Cheers

[matt_hooks 188]

Where did you pull that from? Not much point putting quotes up without the source mate. The age limits have all shifted wround recently, making it virtually impossible to understand imho, be worth checking the current legislation. The violent crime reduction act for starters!

 

Edited to add, a quote from the BASC response to the Home Affairs Committee inquiry into firearms comes the following:-

 

Young people between 14 -17 years of age may not buy or hire an

airgun or ammunition or receive one as a gift. A person within this age

group may not carry an airgun in a public place at any time unless

supervised by a person of or over 21 years and then only with a good

reason for doing so.

 

Which I believe comes from the above mentioned violent crime reduction act 2006, I will find chapter and verse shortly.

 

So no, you cannot legally walk unaccompanied to your ground. Whether you are insured or not is immaterial.

Edited December 24, 2010 by matt_hooks

[Sexy_Shot 5]

http://abaclays.ccc3.org.uk/shoot/GUN%20LAW%20AIR.pdf

 

 

Thats where i got that from matey

[Sexy_Shot 5]

i'm asking BASC, see if they can come up with anything :/

[Phantom 631]

Hi SS,

 

It IS PERFECTLY LEGAL, if you are over the age of 18 to carry your rifle in a slip and it is uncocked and unloaded.

 

As long as you have LAWFULL EXCUSE OR REASON ie, going to a range, walking to the gunshop for repair etc, or walking to your permission. Those officers are not up to their job if they dont know the law.

 

I have travelled with my guns on busses, trains and on foot, I walk past the local police station every time I go shooting and I often say hello to them when I'm carrying my rifles. Only one officer gave me a funny look, but he didn't say anything.

 

So you are in the right

If it was illegal for you to walk to your permission with gun in tow, why did that officer not arrest you for a serious breach of firearms law?

Simply because he couldn't; as no offence had been committed He would not be able to let you go as he would then be breaking the law himself

 

Phantom

[Sexy_Shot 5]

Hi SS,

 

It IS PERFECTLY LEGAL, if you are over the age of 18 to carry your rifle in a slip and it is uncocked and unloaded.

 

As long as you have LAWFULL EXCUSE OR REASON ie, going to a range, walking to the gunshop for repair etc, or walking to your permission. Those officers are not up to their job if they dont know the law.

 

I have travelled with my guns on busses, trains and on foot, I walk past the local police station every time I go shooting and I often say hello to them when I'm carrying my rifles. Only one officer gave me a funny look, but he didn't say anything.

 

So you are in the right

If it was illegal for you to walk to your permission with gun in tow, why did that officer not arrest you for a serious breach of firearms law?

Simply because he couldn't; as no offence had been committed He would not be able to let you go as he would then be breaking the law himself

 

Phantom

 

But Phantom, We're both 16 :/

 

 

Trev

[Phantom 631]

Funnily enough, I was in the supermarket yesterday and I saw Jackie (a local officer), she mentioned that she had not seen me walking around with my gun for a while, I said in reply, "No I've not seen you for a while either"

 

Phantom

[Phantom 631]

 

 

But Phantom, We're both 16 :/

 

 

Trev

 

In that case Trev, considder yourself very very lucky and don't try it again!

 

Phantom