mothballs 0 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 hey guys im from Australia and having a look through the threads and notice a lot of your dog have some sort of stock dog in them that you very rarely see in aus and if you do they are accidental mating not purpose bread. i was wondering what this bring to your dogs that a well bread whippit or a whip deer grey wouldn't have. Quote Link to post
riohog 5,701 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 hey guys im from Australia and having a look through the threads and notice a lot of your dog have some sort of stock dog in them that you very rarely see in aus and if you do they are accidental mating not purpose bread. i was wondering what this bring to your dogs that a well bread whippit or a whip deer grey wouldn't have. brains 1 Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,070 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 when you say stock dog i asume your refering to dogs that work with stock, ie, acd , collie, kelpie ect. the short answer is, we use them to for brain, better feet, better coat and skin, and certainly collies are very agile, and quik thinking, and last but not least staminar,,,, most collie grey types will catch rabbits all night long . Quote Link to post
mothballs 0 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 we use grey dh and grey wh types some times with bull for heart and whip for take off speed and agility well that's the long of the short of it anyway. hardly ever see runners with collie kelpie or acd in them even tho they are readily available through out the whole country. it is a cross i would like to try in the near future but cant seem to find any, so i think i will bread one. i was just trying to find out what to look for in the parents to breed a good pup. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,070 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 we use grey dh and grey wh types some times with bull for heart and whip for take off speed and agility well that's the long of the short of it anyway. hardly ever see runners with collie kelpie or acd in them even tho they are readily available through out the whole country. it is a cross i would like to try in the near future but cant seem to find any, so i think i will bread one. i was just trying to find out what to look for in the parents to breed a good pup. rather than start from scratch with a greyhound or whippet, and a collie/kelpie, if you already own a fast type running dog that is mainly whippet grey deerhound type, find a good working kelpie, and use that over the dog you already own Quote Link to post
sandymere 8,263 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 A sensible working collie. First crosses are loved by some but not others as they tend to be a little heavy for some work but put back to a sighthound, to give a 1/4 collie, will do most jobs. Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 A sensible working collie. First crosses are loved by some but not others as they tend to be a little heavy for some work but put back to a sighthound, to give a 1/4 collie, will do most jobs. spot on mate, as most know ive got 1x collie grey 25in 60lb 3 1/2 year old brill rabbit dog day+night. And as 1xs go he is racey + fast and very agile and not bad stamina,so i might have been lucky with Bryn the other dog is colliexgrey x saluki grey Quote Link to post
mothballs 0 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 the thing i was thinking from starting for scratch is both my dogs are line bread stag hounds with breed added in here and there the bitch i just going a few months ago has bull and Airedale in her line so they could throw to a really heavy pup but i guess u have to start some where i just thought and f1 grey collie are grey kelpie would be a better option Quote Link to post
ribb 15 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 A sensible working collie. First crosses are loved by some but not others as they tend to be a little heavy for some work but put back to a sighthound, to give a 1/4 collie, will do most jobs. spot on mate, as most know ive got 1x collie grey 25in 60lb 3 1/2 year old brill rabbit dog day+night. And as 1xs go he is racey + fast and very agile and not bad stamina,so i might have been lucky with Bryn the other dog is colliexgrey x saluki grey thats a nice dog that Quote Link to post
mothballs 0 Posted December 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 that is a nice looking hound i would be wrapped with something like that Quote Link to post
lurcherman 28 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 hey guys im from Australia and having a look through the threads and notice a lot of your dog have some sort of stock dog in them that you very rarely see in aus and if you do they are accidental mating not purpose bread. i was wondering what this bring to your dogs that a well bread whippit or a whip deer grey wouldn't have. brains Quote Link to post
bird 9,872 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 A sensible working collie. First crosses are loved by some but not others as they tend to be a little heavy for some work but put back to a sighthound, to give a 1/4 collie, will do most jobs. spot on mate, as most know ive got 1x collie grey 25in 60lb 3 1/2 year old brill rabbit dog day+night. And as 1xs go he is racey + fast and very agile and not bad stamina,so i might have been lucky with Bryn the other dog is colliexgrey x saluki grey thats a nice dog that thanks lads Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 Herding dogs when the right one is used can add a lot, in a first x it should bring good coat, feet, stamina, trainability, BRAINS, loyalty. If your looking for a stock dog to breed a first x, look about for a dog that you think 'hey i could hunt that dog' - i.e leggy, tough, good chest, smart, fast, good feet, coat etc and stick it over the best long dog dog bitch you can thats pretty much all running dog and thats your start and then maybe later put a tested bitch pup back to a real good stag stud and there you go. Quote Link to post
NEWKID 27,132 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 A sensible working collie. First crosses are loved by some but not others as they tend to be a little heavy for some work but put back to a sighthound, to give a 1/4 collie, will do most jobs. spot on mate, as most know ive got 1x collie grey 25in 60lb 3 1/2 year old brill rabbit dog day+night. And as 1xs go he is racey + fast and very agile and not bad stamina,so i might have been lucky with Bryn the other dog is colliexgrey x saluki grey thats a nice dog that thanks lads gotta agree bird ,great looking dog, seen these photos a couple of times now but aint tired of em at all Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted December 22, 2010 Report Share Posted December 22, 2010 hey guys im from Australia and having a look through the threads and notice a lot of your dog have some sort of stock dog in them that you very rarely see in aus and if you do they are accidental mating not purpose bread There are some in Australia that aren't from accidental matings Quote Link to post
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