Guest MOLLY Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Please read this to make the Dangerous dogs act 1991 clearer, as there seems to be some confusion on this forum... http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/do...dogsleaflet.pdf Any dog crossed with the breeds banned in the UK are also included, therefore any bull cross lurcher which is crossed with a 'Pit type' are considered to be a dangerous dog so therefore included in the restrictions. I am aware most bullxlurchers are staffordshire bull crosses. If there are people with pitbull crosses then you and yours dogs are at risk so think before you type. MOLL. Quote Link to post
Ray Mears 272 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Please read this to make the Dangerous dogs act 1991 clearer, as there seems to be some confusion on this forum... http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/welfare/do...dogsleaflet.pdf Any dog crossed with the breeds banned in the UK are also included, therefore any bull cross lurcher which is crossed with a 'Pit type' are considered to be a dangerous dog so therefore included in the restrictions. I am aware most bullxlurchers are staffordshire bull crosses. If there are people with pitbull crosses then you and yours dogs are at risk so think before you type. MOLL. well said molly, i think certain people "whippet boy" should have a think first. there will be lots of people looking on this site just waiting for stupid remarks like his . enough said. stupid remark shut up! the point i was getting to was if some people out there has a good pitbull x there not going to hand it in am thay well i no if i had put hours of time and effort into my dog i would not go and had the f****r in Quote Link to post
Guest alastair Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 lets say sum one had a pit x lurcher can the police/uspca/rspca say for deff. its pit blood in the dog good question mate,any one know? i reckon a report of aggresion would be needed first,???????? Quote Link to post
heart of wales 19 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 lets say sum one had a pit x lurcher can the police/uspca/rspca say for deff. its pit blood in the dog good question mate,any one know? i reckon a report of aggresion would be needed first,???????? Have on good authority that by taking your dog from you without having proof it is one of the banned breeds or related to a banned breed is against the law. It is not just a simple case of taking your dog from you and destroying it ,the dog must be detained and examined by a so called expert which can take months to my knowledge no one has challenged this yet. Quote Link to post
Guest MOLLY Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 I am sure i read/heard they did some DNA testing to establish the dog which killed the young girl was a pit? MOLL. Quote Link to post
Fledge 0 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Thats all aload of rubish about the dna testing , you cannot tel one dog breed from another from dna (beleive me !) let alone a staff from a pit Quote Link to post
Crow 1 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Thats all aload of rubish about the dna testing , you cannot tel one dog breed from another from dna (beleive me !)Excuse the ignorance, but why should we believe you? The law relates to any 'pit bull type' dog - so I have to wonder why ANYONE would want a lurcher that resembles a pit bull type? Edited January 8, 2007 by Crow Quote Link to post
apollo 9 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 so I have to wonder why ANYONE want want a lurcher that resembles a pit bull type? Because they are the best type to have for all round simple............. Quote Link to post
Crow 1 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 so I have to wonder why ANYONE want want a lurcher that resembles a pit bull type? Because they are the best type to have for all round simple............. Really Quote Link to post
Guest JOEB Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 so I have to wonder why ANYONE want want a lurcher that resembles a pit bull type? Because they are the best type to have for all round simple............. Not a very well reasoned statement..........there are a few members on this board who have had dogs that wre as near to so called "all round" as I suspect you will get, no bull in them! J Quote Link to post
Eggy 0 Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 (edited) Thats all aload of rubish about the dna testing , you cannot tel one dog breed from another from dna (beleive me !)Excuse the ignorance, but why should we believe you? The law relates to any 'pit bull type' dog - so I have to wonder why ANYONE want want a lurcher that resembles a pit bull type? Sorry but i had to interfere :whistle:.....it is theoretically very possible to distinguish different dog breeds from one another by DNA, just as it is possible to seperate individuals ( 1 man in a crime scene by DNA.....DNA forensics work very well and used extensively on humans today (or even to trace individuals ethnicisity) ). Similarily genomic DNA of Different dog breeds are very very similar, but hey have so called "hypervariable" DNA regions that could distuinguish breeds and i don't think it would be a difficult job at all to design a "kit" to identify certain DNA regions specific to a dog breed (or cross in its DNA makeup)...as i'm aware there's none around (today)! (BTW, i'm a molecular biologist (PhD, U Manchester)). Cheers Eggy Edited January 8, 2007 by Eggy Quote Link to post
Guest MOLLY Posted January 8, 2007 Report Share Posted January 8, 2007 Crow & Eggy. MOLL. Quote Link to post
Guest mucker Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) lets say sum one had a pit x lurcher can the police/uspca/rspca say for deff. its pit blood in the dog good question mate,any one know? i reckon a report of aggresion would be needed first,???????? i think the way it is nowadays is "you prove it isnt"....or. i Edited May 11, 2007 by mucker Quote Link to post
Strong Stuff 2,171 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 Thats all aload of rubish about the dna testing , you cannot tel one dog breed from another from dna (beleive me !)Excuse the ignorance, but why should we believe you? Am not blindly jumping to the lad's defence here, but, he does know what's what with regard to DNA testing and the ability to prove (or inability in this case) that a dog was a banned breed. We are very lucky in the people we have met, a very helpful genuine man. To the PhD person........ Does it sound correct to say that it is impossible to state 100% that a dog was a Pitbull once it is dead (ie at Post Mortem) ?? I ask because DNA testing alone does not prove a dog is a Pitbull, there are numerous other factors they must study, like gait and temperament. I would have thought that the average Bull X owner was less likely to get raided than your average Scally, mostly because their dogs aren't paraded around council estates ......... or are they? Good luck to all who need it, difficult times ahead. Quote Link to post
Eggy 0 Posted January 9, 2007 Report Share Posted January 9, 2007 (edited) Thats all aload of rubish about the dna testing , you cannot tel one dog breed from another from dna (beleive me !)Excuse the ignorance, but why should we believe you? The law relates to any 'pit bull type' dog - so I have to wonder why ANYONE want want a lurcher that resembles a pit bull type? Sorry but i had to interfere :whistle:.....it is theoretically very possible to distinguish different dog breeds from one another by DNA, just as it is possible to seperate individuals ( 1 man in a crime scene by DNA.....DNA forensics work very well and used extensively on humans today (or even to trace individuals ethnicisity) ). Similarily genomic DNA of Different dog breeds are very very similar, but hey have so called "hypervariable" DNA regions that could distuinguish breeds and i don't think it would be a difficult job at all to design a "kit" to identify certain DNA regions specific to a dog breed (or cross in its DNA makeup)...as i'm aware there's none around (today)! (BTW, i'm a molecular biologist (PhD, U Manchester)). Cheers Eggy maybe so but i doubt there going to look that fare into it ar they?! it will cost millions for the uk to set this up you will need labs set up in every main city and i dont think there going to search the whole of england with a fine tooth comb, stoping every dog on the street that looks as if it has a hint ot pit about it sure how would they find the time a where would they find the man power when most of there time and man power is spent on cracking down on real crime ! they will never do it ! Sorry mate to inform you but IMHO it is just another diversion from the Blairites to get you away from more serious issues (eg the Iraq scandal (now atrocaty), serious poverty, peers for cash, go on go on go). And i wouldn't be surprised if if it was done (agian) for a vote gain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go on and live in a la la lo lo land mate! Cheers Eggy Edited January 9, 2007 by Eggy Quote Link to post
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