another coyote

[justpiddlin76 0]

This is a picture of my kids and a buddies kids holding some dogs that we used to catch this coyote. The kids like riding around with me and watching the dogs catch yotes if they get a chance to see it. Today it was perfect and they got to see the whole race. The dog on the left is coming 9 months old out of the gyp in the center. She is a Walker/Mountain Cur cross and he is out of her and a Staghound male. He was in on the catch. I plan on breeding him back to his momma next month when she comes in. These will make pretty good dogs for the way I have to catch coyotes. Anyhow, here it goes.

 

 

 

Sorry the yote don't fit in the picture better. I am a bad photographer, I guess. By the way, the Walker dog on the right is a shit eater for sure and wasn't really anywhere near the catch, but I let him in the picture anyway.

[Stabs 3]

Always good to see the bairns involved

 

9 months is a bit young to be breeding him though isn't it?

[justpiddlin76 0]

Yes, it is way to young to be breeding him and I know he is not finished or even started, but I don't give a shit cause I ain't selling the pups and I want some 3/4 pups from my gyp. I don't even know if he will do it or not. I hope so cause I know if I don't get it done she will get killed around here somehow. Real good dogs have a way of getting themselves killed around me for some reason. I am keeping all the pups so nobody can say that I am trying to just be a puppy mill or anything. I believe in him cause he ran over 25 miles all day Saturday and casted and went well the whole time. We would have caught more yotes, but it was real nasty and damp all day and they were in their dens until the afternoon late when the sun popped out. I figure a guy can do whatever he wants with his own dogs. He is the only pup left out of her cause I culled the rest of them. I seen this pup at 7 months old, thinking he was 8 at the time, but I miss counted the months. Anyhow, I seen him kill a big old rough ass boar coon by himself while his brother was standing back baying and cheerleading. He got to live and his brother got to die. I expect a lot out of dogs and they are mine so, I do my breeding and raising the way I want to. I may suck at it, but I think I do a good job selecting so that is all that matters to me and I trust my opinion very much. I used to coach a lot and I could tell ya the kids that were the real deal pretty early on and I do fairly well with dogs the same way.

[Irish Lurcher 1,013]

Why not at nine months?

 

Not sure why your concern, please explian.

[Simoman 110]

Good work

 

P.S. Whats a shit eater, is that what we would call an arse grabber?

[Stabs 3]

Yes, it is way to young to be breeding him and I know he is not finished or even started, but I don't give a shit cause I ain't selling the pups and I want some 3/4 pups from my gyp. I don't even know if he will do it or not. I hope so cause I know if I don't get it done she will get killed around here somehow. Real good dogs have a way of getting themselves killed around me for some reason. I am keeping all the pups so nobody can say that I am trying to just be a puppy mill or anything. I believe in him cause he ran over 25 miles all day Saturday and casted and went well the whole time. We would have caught more yotes, but it was real nasty and damp all day and they were in their dens until the afternoon late when the sun popped out. I figure a guy can do whatever he wants with his own dogs. He is the only pup left out of her cause I culled the rest of them. I seen this pup at 7 months old, thinking he was 8 at the time, but I miss counted the months. Anyhow, I seen him kill a big old rough ass boar coon by himself while his brother was standing back baying and cheerleading. He got to live and his brother got to die. I expect a lot out of dogs and they are mine so, I do my breeding and raising the way I want to. I may suck at it, but I think I do a good job selecting so that is all that matters to me and I trust my opinion very much. I used to coach a lot and I could tell ya the kids that were the real deal pretty early on and I do fairly well with dogs the same way.

 

Fair enough mate. I know what you mean about dogs getting killed around you...I have the same curse I think

 

I love reading about the hounds you guys use out there. I had a few copies of some bloodlines magazines that Cupid lent me....it's amazing how far back some of the breeding goes

[justpiddlin76 0]

Ya, a shit eater would mean a dog that is basically junk and don't do a good job at hardly anything. One reason a fella would be a little skeptical about breeding a dog that is young is because you really don't know much about the dog yet and how he will turn out in the long run. I am only doing this because I am trying to concentrate on the gyp cause she catches the critters that I want her to. The dogs over here have quite a long history, but shit, half of them ain't what people say them to be anyhow. Who would know what is really in some of our dogs. We got Plott dogs over here with long ass houndy ears that got racing gear for legs and then we got some that got little short ears and are built like a damn bulldog. We got Mountain Curs here that look like the "original" stuff that they are supposed to be and then there are some that look like little ass treeing feists. A lot of people over here lie real bad about their papers and what their dogs really our cause folks over here are really hung up on the paper thing. Me personally, I have hung up on it here and there throughout having dogs, but for the most part don't give a shit about them. They just don't mean a whole lot, especially when they ain't even right.

[beagles 0]

welldone mate

[Stabs 3]

Ya, a shit eater would mean a dog that is basically junk and don't do a good job at hardly anything. One reason a fella would be a little skeptical about breeding a dog that is young is because you really don't know much about the dog yet and how he will turn out in the long run. I am only doing this because I am trying to concentrate on the gyp cause she catches the critters that I want her to. The dogs over here have quite a long history, but shit, half of them ain't what people say them to be anyhow. Who would know what is really in some of our dogs. We got Plott dogs over here with long ass houndy ears that got racing gear for legs and then we got some that got little short ears and are built like a damn bulldog. We got Mountain Curs here that look like the "original" stuff that they are supposed to be and then there are some that look like little ass treeing feists. A lot of people over here lie real bad about their papers and what their dogs really our cause folks over here are really hung up on the paper thing. Me personally, I have hung up on it here and there throughout having dogs, but for the most part don't give a shit about them. They just don't mean a whole lot, especially when they ain't even right.

 

I did notice a lot of folk being into the "papers" as you say. Some of those mags are just full of stud adverts. I didn't realise there was a lot of paper hanging going on though. Same everywhere I suppose.

 

Are the Walkers you refer to "Treeing Walker Coonhounds?" What's the main difference between them and the Mountain Curs?

[justpiddlin76 0]

Yes, them are the Walkers I am referring to. There is a difference between Walkers and Mountain Curs, but really ya just have to have the type Walkers you like or the type Cur you like. I can break it down for ya if ya want or at least try to.

 

Walkers, first of all are hounds. By this I mean they are kind of like a machine that you program to do a job and they just do it. They are extremely fast track dogs and in my part of the country they are extremely hard tree dogs. As a whole, they are the best dog to buy if you are looking for a coon dog especially if you are gonna competition hunt. The pups are cheap and almost all of them will run and tree at a very young age. They are being bred into to many different breeds of hound and cur a like because they are so good at what they do. Pretty darn good dogs to be honest with ya. They have some faults that some people don't like. They can be pretty hard headed and will hunt forever and ever for the most part and a lot of the times don't come back. Another thing is that they can be pretty good and slick treeing, which is treeing with no coon in the tree. A lot of folks just can't keep up with a hard goin Walker dog.

 

Mountain Curs are so diverse that a fella can't really pin point them. There are some of the "original" type Mountain Curs left out there that can catch ya all kinds of game and are pretty good at it. They usually are chop mouthed or can be silent or semi silent. They are supposed to run a track hard and fast also and they are supposed to tree hard. From what I have found many of them are lacking in all areas mentioned. People have bred them to be easier going easier handling and have taken a lot of the intensity out of them that it takes to produce good dogs that will stay hooked at the tree and have the drive to finish the task. There is rumor that they bred feist into them to make them hunt closer and use their eyes more for the competition squirrel dog thing. It is fairly obvious that this rumor is probably true to some extent. They have taken a turn for the worse in my opinion, but some folks like the hot nosed squirrel dogs and don't like a track dog for squirrels. That is fine, but they were not originally bred to be squirrel dogs and squirrel dogs only. Things change though and to each his own. I like a cur dog with a lot of drive and speed and power and a ton of tree. I just can't find many of them or any of them if ya want to know the truth. People talk about it and act like they are everywhere, but I sometimes wonder if these folks have ever seen a truly great coon dog or tree dog. If they had, I don't think they would make this claim.

 

Now, here is what I have found. These cur will run into the wind pretty hard, at least the ones I don't shoot will. They run with their head in the air, keeping their mouth shut for the most part until the yote is jumped or the coon is tree or struck red hot. They will sail in on a yote sleeping in a fence row or in a ditch and jump him before he really know what is going on. They tree coons pretty fast and usually up smaller trees cause they sneak up on them.

[moley 115]

i just got an invite to go to the states to hunt bobcat and cougar with hounds , someone my sister in law knows , do you think i sould go?

[welshhound2 20]

well done mate.

[UphillDoc 278]

Justpiddlin-Sounds like your on the right track. We run the coyotes different out West, but if the end result is a caught coyote, your doing it right.

Take care.

[justpiddlin76 0]

I would find a little bit out about this fella you are gonna go hunt with. Other than that, hell yes go! You will have a good time over here regardless. There is a lot of things to do over here that is for sure.