undisputed 1,664 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Following on from the post about buying lurchers from a rescue centre . This got me thinking why do folk buy full grown dogs from anyone. I understand if it's from a mate etc and you've seen what the dogs capable off but your still missing out on the most important part... Schooling a pup. Surely there's no better feeling than moulding your pup from the basic training and successfully entering on quarry. Is it a case of folk not having the knowhow or just sheer impatience. Personally speaking I would never buy a full grown dog from anyone. Missing out the formative years of a dog you don't get to know it's quirks and habits good and bad and the bond is never gonna be the same. If folk took the time to train their own then maybe we wouldn't have folk starting threads claiming they've been conned and the dog didn't do what it said on the tin. And maybe rescue centres would have fewer lurchers in their care...just a thought. 3 Quote Link to post
hargreavesheber 93 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Having always had pups i can't speak about getting a full grown dog, but i do understand the rewards of watching/training a young dog. You know you've done the best you can that way.. Quote Link to post
3 Turns 326 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Having always had pups i can't speak about getting a full grown dog, but i do understand the rewards of watching/training a young dog. You know you've done the best you can that way.. Quote Link to post
bird 9,973 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Having always had pups i can't speak about getting a full grown dog, but i do understand the rewards of watching/training a young dog. You know you've done the best you can that way.. plus if it all goes wrong, you know it is (you) nobody else.? with a pup. And i do really think that (bonding) is very important thing, to get the best out of any dog+ pup. Bryn my dog as been a great dog, catnt fault him regards work day+night. But because i just had him, and no other dog i have bonded with him and as he gets older (3) he seems to get better. With my pup Tod he getts on well with Bryn to well really, so in the new year i will have alot more solo time with him, to bond better and if like Bryn should make great lurcher. You can drop on a mature dog, and get a good'un , but alot are other peoples mistakes,and thats why they get past on. Quote Link to post
HiLost 32 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 well said totally agree, its a great feeling to train your own pup and then watch it working when its old enough Quote Link to post
Guest chook Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Cant comment on a lot of your post about bringing on pups, as ive only realy started out with the hunting side of things, although been around the sport since being a todler. But having had both dogs from the second they was born, to having a couple come to me as adults i dont see any difference between the bond or anything else, everyone of my dogs i know there quirks and habits, i know what what all my dogs can do and what they cant - to get a bond from any dog you have to have trust and earn it, with some dogs it comes naturaly some dogs it dosent - ive seen quite a few posts, from people who have done something wrong and lost that trust with there dogs, most are from owners who have had the dogs from pups, done something wrong and the dog wont go near them so they have to build that relationship back up. The old saying of you cant teach an old dog new tricks well you can. My last outing ferreting, i took the little beagle x that belongs to my brother, to hopefuly start her off bushing, to say this dog only came to him at a year old - never been round ferrets, started her life off in the pound, has had at least 2 other owners she worked like a trooper, never once did anything to the ferrets, picked up marking realy well and will flush - now when you take her out nose is to the ground and she works the fields and bush's, she never once go's out of sight and recalls the second you call her - she will go were ever i ask, not bad for a dog that was labled a problem and was dummped on me. Quote Link to post
jf1970 328 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 nothing better than rearing and training your pup, then seeing all the hard work you have put in when it catches it's first rabbit Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 There's always the exception to the rule of course...but more satisfying starting from scratch in my view Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 There's always the exception to the rule of course...but more satisfying starting from scratch in my view dont disagree at all mate Quote Link to post
Guest crobinc840 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 I hear of plenty of people putting in years of work to make the best of their dog just to have it stollen at their prime. Not only does it ruin the persons hunting but I'm sure they feel a great loss. That might be part of the reason they chose an older dog later. Quote Link to post
Gerry48 10 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Following on from the post about buying lurchers from a rescue centre . This got me thinking why do folk buy full grown dogs from anyone. I understand if it's from a mate etc and you've seen what the dogs capable off but your still missing out on the most important part... Schooling a pup. Surely there's no better feeling than moulding your pup from the basic training and successfully entering on quarry. Is it a case of folk not having the knowhow or just sheer impatience. Personally speaking I would never buy a full grown dog from anyone. Missing out the formative years of a dog you don't get to know it's quirks and habits good and bad and the bond is never gonna be the same. If folk took the time to train their own then maybe we wouldn't have folk starting threads claiming they've been conned and the dog didn't do what it said on the tin. And maybe rescue centres would have fewer lurchers in their care...just a thought. Quote Link to post
Gerry48 10 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 Spot on mate. you get to know the pup and its character and you can correct any bad habits. Quote Link to post
lofti 579 Posted December 19, 2010 Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 at the start of last season i had a 3ry old dog on trail for 1 1/2 months the owner was dogged out at the time with my other two lurchers laid up with bad injuries and not knowing when they would recover i needed something to run as it was start of the season the dog a 3/8 5/8 bullx caught me plenty of game, worked well and got on with my other dogs the only problem i had was i could`nt bond with the dog and it wasnt through lack of trying, the dog went back to its original owner ,and i looked out for an older pup that i could bring on myself. i found a 10 month salukigreycolliewhip for sale on here she really caught my eye,so i went for it i trained her from scratch she was`nt even sitting on command when i got her im very happy with the bitch and have a very good bond with her and she dose well in the feild personaly i think i need to bring a dog on and train it myself to then form the bond with the animal, then will come the hunting partnership and the satisfaction. think its each to there own Quote Link to post
undisputed 1,664 Posted December 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 19, 2010 at the start of last season i had a 3ry old dog on trail for 1 1/2 months the owner was dogged out at the time with my other two lurchers laid up with bad injuries and not knowing when they would recover i needed something to run as it was start of the season the dog a 3/8 5/8 bullx caught me plenty of game, worked well and got on with my other dogs the only problem i had was i could`nt bond with the dog and it wasnt through lack of trying, the dog went back to its original owner ,and i looked out for an older pup that i could bring on myself. i found a 10 month salukigreycolliewhip for sale on here she really caught my eye,so i went for it i trained her from scratch she was`nt even sitting on command when i got her im very happy with the bitch and have a very good bond with her and she dose well in the feild personaly i think i need to bring a dog on and train it myself to then form the bond with the animal, then will come the hunting partnership and the satisfaction. think its each to there own I'm a sucker for pups I like the idea of training and entering and having the dog from 6-8weeks and watching it grow and learn. As I said I dont think you get that with an older dog. I'm sure that there are genuine guys out there who pass on dogs for legit reasons but given the time and effort you need to put into a dog training wise then bringing it on what price do put on that. 9 outa 10 times someone passing on a full grown dog is doing it for a reason and its not always a good one Quote Link to post
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