why do people buy dogs

[gav22 24]

why not buy a dog from a rescue center??? well put it this way would you buy a new car from a scrap yard dont think so

[KittleRox 2,147]

I have 3 lurchers here and they,re pish but I wouldn,t dream of dumping them to end up in a rescue centre,they,re my pish and with me they will remain until they die.

Can,t really understand awe this if they don,t make the grade they,re got rid shite,

[trenchfoot 4,243]

I have had 3 rescue lurchers over the last decade or so. First one most people would not have looked twice at, yet she were a good grafter. Found her wandering on our shoot, kept her and she kept me. Next one was being dumped at a game fair because he couldn't sell her. Well its been a cracking rabbit dog and is used beating on shoots. Just taken in a third rescue, who shows the potential to keep the numbers down of bigger vermin and game on the farm.

 

I dont have a problem of folk breeding dogs to better the line. But if they are that good that they are worth breeding from then they shouldn't need advertising. Most lads I know would be able to place most of the litter at the very mention of breeding one. If there are any "odd 'uns" in that litter then they go in a bucket.

 

If your using your dog for sport, then enjoy it for what it is, dont just dump the poor fecker. If you need a dog thats the bollocks that much, ask yourself - what you trying to prove?

 

The state of some of the ex-workers I have seen come into rescue prove that they have done a lot of hared graft for someone. If a dogs worked that hard for you then you owe it the decency of looking after it when needs retireing

[optimus 447]

  On 18/12/2010 at 06:43, ozzieowl said:

why do so many people keep buying dogs,when theres lurcher rescue and other organisations that have loads of strays,which some can be made into good dogs with time and effort,some just buy them give them a week and get rid,you carnt find out about a dog in a week,theres loads of good lurcher men on here that take pride in there dogs and wouldnt part with them for the world,lets think about dogs that are passed from pillar to post not knowing who the owner is and then because they havent caught in the first week are sold again,thats why theres so many in kennels if your going to buy a lurcher what ever cross,take time look at the dog before you buy it and see if you think you can make the dog set it as a challenge to yourself and if you do make it a good dog then you would keep it for life this is not a dig at anyone but theres so many lurchers out there that need a chance to settle down with someone merry xmas happy new year john.

SADLY WHAT YOU SAY IS TOO TRUE. UNLESS FOR EXAMPLE YOU SIMPLY CANNOT GET ON WITH THE DOG & YOU CAN TRULY SAY YOU TRIED YOUR BEST, THEN I FEEL YOU MUST GIVE YOUR DOG AT LEAST 18months TO PROVE ITSELF. SADLY THE "old Meg was doing it at 10 month" DOES NOT CUT IT WITH ME AS EVERY DOG AS WITH A PERSON IS UNIQUE. WHEN YOU CAN TRULY LOOK YOURSELF IN THE MIRROR & SAY YOU GAVE THE PUP A GOOD REARING, ENTERING & DECENT RUNNING TO LEARN THE GAME BUT IT DIDNT WORK OUT,THATS WHEN YOU SHOULD THINK THAT PERHAPS ITS TIME TO MOVE ON. SADLY MANY DOG MEN etc COULDNT KEEP WHITE MICE NEVER MIND DOGS & FOR THEM THE RAINBOW WILL NEVER END.

[robo-christ 40]

Can't believe the amount of tool's saying they want more f*****g rules on keeping dog's

how about we make it illegal to breed dogs and all just take on rescues?

or better yet just ban all dog's?

 

we need to be trying to reduce all this red tape not create more ffs.

[robo-christ 40]

the way to solve all the strays is to cull every dog that you can't/don't want to keep,we need people to start adopting this attitude because it will also help destroy the animal charities like the rspca.

[baldockbanks courser 598]

  On 18/12/2010 at 17:48, robo-christ said:

the way to solve all the strays is to cull every dog that you can't/don't want to keep,we need people to start adopting this attitude because it will also help destroy the animal charities like the rspca.

harsh but true. all the r.s.p.s.a do is raid british bird keepers sheds and pester terreir lads.

i bet all the softies and women who keep on about rescues have a bet on the grand national?

do you know why all the fields arnt full of slow and old thorough breeds? because they need the room for good urns and the others are shot. animals are animals on the bright side thell be plenty of rabbits about for genuine working people cause 2 bob pets wont take many on there outings.

[Guest chook]

  On 18/12/2010 at 15:34, billhardy said:

seems like you dont like the thought of healthy animals put to sleep . but i can assure you in my local village ,thats what happened if they werent claimed . i might have known i would get a response of the one above,but if you think by keeping thousands of dogs in pounds his on the odd chance afew might be rehomed well thats another story .irrisponsible dog breeders puppy farmers can rest there heads each night knowing the next dog they breed if not suitable when the said vendor feels like a change .its not aproblem the local pound his allways there to take them for a small fee .while these establishments rely on members of the public for free labour etc lurchers terriers and a multitude of working type dogs end there days in the pound .Iwould have thought ploughing time and money ,in to the HOMELESS people of this country not animals who have been discarded by those with plenty.get a grip and look at the country for what it now has become ,I muself keep working type dogs for work and yes they get the very best food shelter ,and a stimulative daily routine worked at every bit of spare time i have . BUT i am not blinkered to allow myself to believe that shelters are for the good of dogs in general .shelters are there so people can gift dogs yae some strays are picked up ,let me just say this go out walk around your local town villageand count the dogs straying eh,I know the answer. any dog i own if becomes unsuitable for purpose , his uethanased full stop this his was the environment i was grown in not the of the last 30yrs brain washed, Here we are now hunting ban in force can t kill a squirrell with out fear of prosecution and then persucutionthe country gone soft.

 

 

No i dont like the thought of healthy sound dogs being PTS for no resion what so ever.

 

And you will find not many people help out at pounds, i and many others help out at a rescue - totaly different to a pound,

the dogs are fostered out and are kept by people till their homes are found, many rescues do this - so unless there have been to many dogs coming in, then some may have to be kenneld out, no different to half the people on hear who kennel their dogs out, they still get walked, fed etc.

 

There are plenty of charitys help the homeless - and you will find that a lot who do help out in rescue, do help out

with the homeless etc aswell, im not thaty niave, i know what is happening round the country.

 

 

There are not many strays round were i live, few latch key dogs, but in the last what 20 years,

ive probably picked up what 4 dogs, 2 went with the dog warden, 1 a lurcher was rehomed and the other was a stray greyhound

that i reunited with its owner, its been a while - but the last time i did go to my local pound, it was mainly full of staffy's

couple of greys and 1 lurcher.

 

Little peice of info for you - rescues in wales and many other areas, actualy are bringing dogs in from irland

over 14 thousend dogs, including track greyhounds, are brought over each year, one of the rescues in wales

brings over what about 10-20 dogs every couple of months, so you see its not only this countrys dogs we have to deal with

but other countrys aswell, if they didnt bring these dogs over - then we may not be in such a state.

[Guest chook]

  On 18/12/2010 at 20:12, baldockbanks courser said:

  On 18/12/2010 at 17:48, robo-christ said:

the way to solve all the strays is to cull every dog that you can't/don't want to keep,we need people to start adopting this attitude because it will also help destroy the animal charities like the rspca.

harsh but true. all the r.s.p.s.a do is raid british bird keepers sheds and pester terreir lads.

i bet all the softies and women who keep on about rescues have a bet on the grand national?

do you know why all the fields arnt full of slow and old thorough breeds? because they need the room for good urns and the others are shot. animals are animals on the bright side thell be plenty of rabbits about for genuine working people cause 2 bob pets wont take many on there outings.

 

Rspca do not take in strays from the pound/off the streets or take in hand overs,

so it wont help distroy the rspca what so ever, what will distroy them, is people not giving them money

without money, they can not go on.

 

If you look around, there are lots of owners/trainers that sell their stock,

one or two of the race courses have sale days were you can buy them, theres also about 3 charitys

that takes in the unwanted racers, not all are shot.

 

And no i dont bet on the grand national or anything like that,

dont even play the lottery - and no before its said, im not anti greyhound racing

although i do think that there needs to be better controals over the sport

i dont think it should be banned - woud be a hypocrite if i said it did.

Edited December 18, 2010 by chook

[big boy 16]

  On 18/12/2010 at 06:43, ozzieowl said:

why do so many people keep buying dogs,when theres lurcher rescue and other organisations that have loads of strays,which some can be made into good dogs with time and effort,some just buy them give them a week and get rid,you carnt find out about a dog in a week,theres loads of good lurcher men on here that take pride in there dogs and wouldnt part with them for the world,lets think about dogs that are passed from pillar to post not knowing who the owner is and then because they havent caught in the first week are sold again,thats why theres so many in kennels if your going to buy a lurcher what ever cross,take time look at the dog before you buy it and see if you think you can make the dog set it as a challenge to yourself and if you do make it a good dog then you would keep it for life this is not a dig at anyone but theres so many lurchers out there that need a chance to settle down with someone merry xmas happy new year john.

i see your point mate, i love all sorts of lurchers but wile im young enougth and able, i would rather know was i was getting.then later on would defo rescue one.good thread though.

[Fabapocalypse 35]

IF people only bred dogs that were needed, wanted and had homes to go to: we wouldn't need rescues.

 

IF people didn't treat the dogs they have as disposable toys: we wouldn't need rescues.

 

IF people identified their dogs so that they could be got back to them when they were "lost" or "straying" because they got interrupted (What've you got to hide? It's only "lost" or "straying"!): we wouldn't need rescues.

 

IF people didn't just dump their injured or poorly performing dogs but had the conscience or cojones to deal with them properly, we wouldn't need rescues.

 

IF there weren't the sort of people in this game who go to a pound and buy out a lurcher so as to get a cheap dog but then give a fake address and mobile number for the microchip so that the dog ends up getting dumped again, we wouldn't need rescues.

 

The reality is even if you get a pup, you still don't know what you're getting, there are too many variables. If you did know from day one there'd be less dogs passed around anyway. Every single dog is different. It's how you deal with what you have got that matters.

 

There are way too many dogs being bred and there are way too many dogs being badly treated, one way or another, whether deliberately or not, and everybody stands about and goes "Oh no it's not us, it's the others".

 

Then they ridicule the "bleeding hearts" working with the rescues attempting to clear up the mess that's left behind and condemn all rescue dogs as "shite". Where do they think this "shite" comes from? The Shite Dog Fairy? Nooo, it's all "the others" breeding and "losing" and dumping.

 

When it comes down to it rescues are charities or charitably intended organisations, so it's not like they cost anybody anything. If you don't like, don't contribute; but don't condemn out of hand. I can't speak for the big "corporate" bodies like the RSPCA or Dogs Trust but most of the smaller, specialist rescues do a good job of rehabilitating and rehoming previously unwanted lurchers. Can't see why some people have such an issue with the whole concept really.

[ozzieowl 53]

it just shows that theres loads of people out there that do care about there dogs,i just hope this thread will make a few people think about the choice they make when taking on a lurcher or any other dog,cheers john.

[hargreavesheber 93]

We tried to go down the adoption line, with little success. We couldn't rescue because our Jack russell bitch had not been spayed, even though we were after a bitch anyhow??? O and the particular dog we wanted liked cats and because we didn't have any it was being reserved for a home that did..WTF. Totally baffled us, so sacked if off and got our pup.. Was like they didn't want to rehome em..

[runforyourlife 361]

  On 19/12/2010 at 03:13, ozzieowl said:

it just shows that theres loads of people out there that do care about there dogs,i just hope this thread will make a few people think about the choice they make when taking on a lurcher or any other dog,cheers john.

 

 

what does that emply.... i fecking love my dogs... As pets and workers.. Doesnt mean we have to go out and get a rescue pal...

 

This post is going nowhere. It should be on a normal chat forum about animals. Unless you just meant getting one for a pet. And werent talking to the working dog men.

[HALTY LAD 92]

  On 18/12/2010 at 15:46, gav22 said:

why not buy a dog from a rescue center??? well put it this way would you buy a new car from a scrap yard dont think so

Im not a gambling man, but id put a solid bet that if I picked 5 dogs from a shelter, not one would cut it for me. I rely on people to put the best to the best in the hope that il get a dog that relishes the hunting I do, and that is not the work for the traditional lurcher