craig7787 0 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Im looking at buying a rifle around the £400 mark, I would like to buy new, and have pretty much narrowed it down to these two springers which both have awsome reviews! the Weirauch HW97k & the Air arms Pro sport. Has anybody owned both? is it worth paying the extra Cash for the air arms? or would it be more sensible to get a TX200 Mk3 Hunter carbine instead and saving the extra cash. I want a rifle that is gona last and not have to buy a new one in a years time, as the saying goes "buy nice or buy twice" This is what has steered me towards a top end springer, rather than a bottom end pcp, and im not phased buy the weight, i have considered a S400 which is around the same price range, although not having a diving bottle, i would then have to buy one taking the rifle slightly out of my budget. I still have not ruled this rifle out either, but the majority of reviews on the net dont seem to live up to those of the two springers, but would like to hear your opinions as im sure they will be much more informed than mine. Many Thanks! Quote Link to post
zini 1,939 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) Hi Craig, I have owned both rifles and to be honest with you, only just got rid of them both due to marital issues. They are both superb rifles and will last you a life time without fail if looked after properly. Accuracy wise you won’t split them I’m afraid as they are both capable in the right hands of producing 1 hole groups at 40 to 45 metres in perfect conditions with no wind etc. Straight out the box and off the shelf I would say that the Air Arms Pro Sport is the smoother and silkier rifle to load and shoot. It’s like a tuned rifle off the shelf and will astound you how wonderful it is. I know someone on here that had a ProSport and wanted to take it to a very good rifle tuner called Tony Wall for a tune and he said that there would be no point as the ProSports are so well made that there wouldn’t be that much he could do to improve it. The HW97K is also very nice but not quite as smooth as the ProSport straight out the box. Still as accurate though, I must add, and will out shoot the owner any day. If you pay an extra £70 and get the HW97K tuned by Tony Wall at Sandwell Field Sports (Sandwell Field Sports - tel 0121 520 2000 ) the HW97K will beat the ProSport for smoothness, quietness and silkier cocking and just about everything else less accuracy, which it is on a par with. If i had to pick one i would have the HW97K and get it tuned mate. They are just shooting dreams when properly hand tuned. I’ve got some footage of me on YouTube shooting a smaller than 1 inch target with my ProSport at 55 metres (60.1 yards), they are brilliant as are the HW97K’s Link below Hope this info helps buddy Si Edited December 14, 2010 by zini Quote Link to post
RAMCAM 4 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hi Craig I own a 97k fitted with a V-Mach kit it's a great rifle and very accuarate with AA pellets out to 60 yards. I am hoping to buy the new thumbhole stock for it. Quote Link to post
Marksman 934 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 (edited) I had a vmached 97K and what an awesome rifle it was! wor kid had a prosport and swore by it producing some amazing shots until he "went PCP" Darryl Edited December 14, 2010 by Marksman Quote Link to post
19powell90 89 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hi mate, I recently owned a hw97k and cannot fault it for a springer, but now ive converted to pcp and its a whole new game. I have a s410 and i love it. If i was you i would save up for a pcp and bottle/pump, the pros more than outweigh the cons i.e multishot No recoil - accuracy/bipod mountable Lighter than the dearer springers i.e. Hw97k Almost silent with decent silencer Hope this helps Scott Quote Link to post
beddylurcher 70 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 i have both mate both very good gun`s i coulnt realy diside between them but just down to looks i could pick the pro sport but other then that i carnt think of anything, iv also just got a s410 and its in a whole other leage if i was you i would ether save abit more or buy a second hand pcp. Quote Link to post
johnboy19 38 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Cant comment on the 97k, and only got my Prosport on Friday so experience with it is minimal, but so far i love it. It shoots very smoothly and shoots accurately to the 25 yards ive been practicing at so far. Also have an S410, cant say a bad word about it. More accurate then the person behind the trigger, no problems with it what so ever, good shot count, multishot etc. But think i will always have a springer (dont think i will ever change the Prosport) in my collection. Wether its plinking, hunting or HFT, i think sometimes you get a bit more fun from shooting a springer. Each to their own as they say. Cheers John Quote Link to post
Ron Weasley 83 Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Cant comment on the 97k, and only got my Prosport on Friday so experience with it is minimal, but so far i love it. It shoots very smoothly and shoots accurately to the 25 yards ive been practicing at so far. Also have an S410, cant say a bad word about it. More accurate then the person behind the trigger, no problems with it what so ever, good shot count, multishot etc. But think i will always have a springer (dont think i will ever change the Prosport) in my collection. Wether its plinking, hunting or HFT, i think sometimes you get a bit more fun from shooting a springer. Each to their own as they say. Cheers John Got to agree with you there John. I think people are a bit keen to push others into buying PCPs sometimes. Both the ProSport and HW97K are top notch rifles, and both rifles that I would like to own. I have no experience of the ProSport personally, so for that reason the HW edges it for me- but I'm a Weihrauch devotee when it comes to spring guns. I'll admit, I use my PCPs (R10 and Ultra) far more often than my HW95K, but I'm definitely glad I held onto it. Quote Link to post
craig7787 0 Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Cheers for the advice lads, Still havnt decided yet lol But im not gona buy the gun for another month or so anyway so there's no rush! and buy the soundz of things i can't go too far wrong with either rifle Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) Hi Craig. If I may add a bit more fuel to your fire.. Go take a close look at the Weihrauch HW77. I've just bought a full length one for my collection in .22 calibre and it's as beautiful a rifle as it gets. The 97K is it's successor and a rightful one too. I really thought the Prosport was the best looking of all spring rifles but, the HW77 is the daddy of them all. It's got the potential to outshoot the man whose shoulder it sits in. Either the Weihrauch 97K or Air Arms Prosport will put pellet on pellet at 50 metres if you have the talent. But the Weihrauch HW77 not only will equal that easilly, she'll go on doing it superbly; year, after year, after year. I have the TX200HC in .177 and TX200 rifle in .22 both of which are truly lovely guns to own and shoot. And it's a huge thing for me to admit but, I believe the HW77 is going to be a better rifle in the hunting field than my TX200 is. The 77's length, weight and handling are just about perfect. This one of mine is going to have the best care and tuning money can buy as my primary hunting rifle now; and my one great, great regret is that I didn't buy one years ago. You won't be disapointed with the 97K or Prosport; whatever you choose in the end mate. But, if it was my money, I know absolutely what it would be going on. ATB Simon Edited December 15, 2010 by pianoman Quote Link to post
polecat84 1 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Hi Craig. If I may add a bit more fuel to your fire.. Go take a close look at the Weihrauch HW77. I've just bought a full length one for my collection in .22 calibre and it's as beautiful a rifle as it gets. The 97K is it's successor and a rightful one too. I really thought the Prosport was the best looking of all spring rifles but, the HW77 is the daddy of them all. It's got the potential to outshoot the man whose shoulder it sits in. Either the Weihrauch 97K or Air Arms Prosport will put pellet on pellet at 50 metres if you have the talent. But the Weihrauch HW77 not only will equal that easilly, she'll go on doing it superbly; year, after year, after year. I have the TX200HC in .177 and TX200 rifle in .22 both of which are truly lovely guns to own and shoot. And it's a huge thing for me to admit but, I believe the HW77 is going to be a better rifle in the hunting field than my TX200 is. The 77's length, weight and handling are just about perfect. This one of mine is going to have the best care and tuning money can buy as my primary hunting rifle now; and my one great, great regret is that I didn't buy one years ago. You won't be disapointed with the 97K or Prosport; whatever you choose in the end mate. But, if it was my money, I know absolutely what it would be going on. ATB Simon got to agree with you mate the hw77 is an absolute legend and superb rifle,infact its that good ive got two standard and and the k version,one of them is goin for a reblue and a v-mach kit and v-mach silencer fitted and ive also just bought a cs800 walnut stock for it aswell. Quote Link to post
silentshot1 206 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Got to agree with botyh Simon (Pianoman) and Polecat84. I really like the HW97 and Pro sport, was playing with both in the local shop at the weekend but neither gave me the utter assurance I get from the HW77K. Quite a personal thing, I know, but I don't think I'll ever part with mine. Quote Link to post
terrierjohn 49 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 i have hw97k that i have just bought and with the exception of weight it is an extremly accurate rifle to own i havent had the pleasure of firing a prosport so cant comment on that but hopefully i will be spending a day shooting with another member who has a prosport and maybe through the day we could compare the 2 together also like to add any advice given by zini is more than worth taking in as from posts i have read from him the information and knowledge he has on air rifles is unbeatable from what i gather Quote Link to post
pianoman 3,587 Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Thanks to you both, silentshot and polecat84. The range time Ive put in so far is enough to convince me the HW77 has got to be the most accurate production spring rifle you can buy. Elegantly simple, uncomplicated, pure accurate rifle. Anything else can only be as good but no better. I really love mine to bits. If you are a right hander Craig, your budget will easilly buy you one plus leave you enough change towards a decent scope for it. I'm even beginning to think the unthinkable and sell my .22 TX200 rifle to fund a second HW77 in .177cal. What ammo are you lads using for your HW77s? Mine seems to like H&N Field Target Trophy. What else? Simon Quote Link to post
polecat84 1 Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Thanks to you both, silentshot and polecat84. The range time Ive put in so far is enough to convince me the HW77 has got to be the most accurate production spring rifle you can buy. Elegantly simple, uncomplicated, pure accurate rifle. Anything else can only be as good but no better. I really love mine to bits. If you are a right hander Craig, your budget will easilly buy you one plus leave you enough change towards a decent scope for it. I'm even beginning to think the unthinkable and sell my .22 TX200 rifle to fund a second HW77 in .177cal. What ammo are you lads using for your HW77s? Mine seems to like H&N Field Target Trophy. What else? Simon rws superdomes and air arms diablo feild but superdomes seem to work best in mine. Quote Link to post
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