no1 jibber 31 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Here we go do all you idiots live in the real world and do any of you read the posts ? i have stated more than 3 times now on this thread i dont knock his dogs or the guy its the fact every twat in bloody britain tells the next that if you want a working whippet buy one from a man who people openly talk about not working his dogs and extensively inbreeding his already inbred stock. Now never once have i said i was not kreet infact anyone on here who has had any actual atention over the last few years knows this is not a secret. Secondly i have kept whippets since i was first alowed my own dog 12 years ago and it wasnt till last year i actualy bred one so say as you please about me i couldnt give a toss simply because unlike mb i dont rely on idiots to promote my lines on sites like this after all i wouldnt realy have to since i wont breed again till october 11 meaning 2 years between the mating of a 3 year old bitch whom i already have pups booked for due to the capability of her and the already well performing ofspring who unlike mb i have first hand knowledge of how they are performing although some people cant be bothered letting you know. I realy dont care about the debating if you had had the brains you would have realised that my coat remark was infact a piss take out the twats bringing this thread like others to the ground correct me if i am wrong but the whippet as a breed was doing what it does now long before any of the above cross breeds were created and at the end of the day as a rabbiting dog i wouldnt have anything else in my kennel i have tried various other crosses and none suited me. The reason i do not like ss lines is the simple fact of how close they are all bred and personaly i aint keen on many of them i also dont actualy have a problem with mb dont know him and dont debate that he will have done alot with whippets in the past but its amusing how you clowns can have digs at someone who is just young out with his dogs daily helps anyone in this game out by taking them on his land etc and who maybe did sell a few dogs 7 years ago as a teenager who was trying out different lurchers that didnt suit his needs. The one thing i always do is hold my hand up when im wrong and yes at that time for personaly reasons i was in the wrong place and what i ended up with didnt suit me but i would like to meet anyone else in there early 20s with the knowledge understanding and experience in this game and i am not wrong in saying that there are other lines out there just as suitable as mbs and no im not promoting a line the idiots on here spouting out about it are and infact my dogs would never be available on here have you seen the idiots they would be going to! Back on track mb's whippets capable but there are other pups suitable out there and through some of the more knowledgeable people on the site deff wouldnt go down that road and see now my thoughts werent just that. you state "unlike M.B., i dont rely on IDIOTS TO PROMOTE MY LINES"... so what your sayin then is the lads who have had a pup off the man been happy with its workin ability and have genuenly came on and give an opinion cause they actually work the line being discussed are idiots , you admit you have been wrond with dogs yourself and now you wont sell pups on here because "HAVE YOU SEEN THE IDIOTS THEY WOULD BE GOING TO" ....you cant be 100% sure the person takin every pup will give it the right home unless you keep the litter really close (which i would do) and circumstances can alter peoples lives where dogs are concerned, just look at YOURSELF and the DOGS you admit to PASSING ON , and want people to give YOU the benefit of age and circumstances yet your calling people you dont know, how fuck1n hypocritical mate. maybe its because someone has come on and slated you , you cant deny his post so you throw sh1t at others to deflect the post about you. seen his pups of his young black bitch all over freeadds and other free selling sites. so how doe's he know what the people are realy like just selling to anyone lol. also a stud dog blue skinny thing being offered, i hope he don't stud it to shite ss blood bitches lol. Quote Link to post
ferdy 1 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 m.brown can not be held respones for other peoples buying and selling of his dogs as for the blue dog im sure anyone looking to stud him will have done there homework if he suit them they will use him if not they go some were else as i said before line breeding inbreeding is happening in all walks of life even hitler try it.he was bent Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Your not wrong there are plenty of other lines out there doing there job day in day out, one of the best I"ve seen is show bred through and through and is in fact the sire to a litter I recently bred. However the original poster asked specifically about MB bred dogs and I at least have tried to answer him based on my own experience of owning one of the said dogs. I truly find her to be a honest capable dog carrying out the tasks that ANY whippet should be able to and am more than satisfied with her abilities or I wouldn"t have bred from her,one of the pups is staying here and will be tested the rest have all gone to working homes and I"m sure will be tested,so only time will tell. MB/sooty sam a very emotive subject as has been proven yet again by this thread and unfortunately personal vendettas seem to come to the fore some with MB and some between forum members. The original poster must be feeling more confused than when he asked his original question and still wont have a clear answer to his question. Good Man I hope you have been able to glean something from amongst this thread though I suspect you probably gave up some time ago and who could blame you. Theres no wonder THL has the reputation it has when you read through threads like this and is the reason I dont participate too frequently on this site along with many other far more knowledgable people. Your ss bred bitch I see your delighted with her and used your mates show bred dog as stud if I'm reading your posts right? How do you rate your bitch against this show bred stud? Workwise Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
fresh earth 47 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Im not talking about genuine whippet owners happy with there dogs its other people who have no first hand experience because they hear things from others personaly i couldnt give a toss your way of the mark and to be fair if thats how you want to be thats fair enough anyone whom has met me will know that im no bullshiting peedler and that i put more work into each and every one of the dogs i own than most put into there family.I also dont own a whippet dog and have never once studed any dog i have owned. At the end of the day if people want to buy a dog from the man bash on. Seing as i know so little and all im interested in is money ill releave my self from this garbage. I would like to say there are a few genuine people on this site whom i have had interaction with and made decent freinds out of but if you sit back and look at 9 out of ten topics there is one decent person to every 10 idiots now i dont debate that some of the people will be decent folk in the flesh but this world is not about talking others down for the banter and its not what i was doing with mb all i was saying was there are more lines out there. So hack away at me as quite frankly i couldnt give a toss ill still be out rabbiting with my dogs regardless of what anyone says. Last thing line breeding i agree is needed in situations i agree and have no quarrals with i have line bred birds all my life but extensive line breeding and INBREEDING produces extreme faults prime example the disease and deformity in many of the kennel club breeds. 1 Quote Link to post
no1 jibber 31 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 you sure write alot of bolloks for a 24yr old man Quote Link to post
neil r 1,842 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Good man you,ve made the right choice i think, MB has forgotten more about dogs than some of the keyboard warriors that don,t seem to have anything good to say. Incidentally, the post earlier where it was said that £10 had to be sent before he would talk about dogs is the most biggest crock of shite so far on this thread !!, the only reason you would be asked to send a tenner of if is you have decided to buy from him, the tenner is the deposit on your pup. Yes the tenner would have come off the pup but he still wouldnt talk about them till he had got it , once he had it he spent a long time talking to my mate . If hes not normally like that , maybe he`d had a bad day or something. I have nothing against him and dont care what he wants to charge people . The only thing that does puzzle me though is the 2 photos showing different dogs with the same catch , unless the rabbits had identical twins , or is that a crock of shit aswell Quote Link to post
rolysmate 49 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Your not wrong there are plenty of other lines out there doing there job day in day out, one of the best I"ve seen is show bred through and through and is in fact the sire to a litter I recently bred. However the original poster asked specifically about MB bred dogs and I at least have tried to answer him based on my own experience of owning one of the said dogs. I truly find her to be a honest capable dog carrying out the tasks that ANY whippet should be able to and am more than satisfied with her abilities or I wouldn"t have bred from her,one of the pups is staying here and will be tested the rest have all gone to working homes and I"m sure will be tested,so only time will tell. MB/sooty sam a very emotive subject as has been proven yet again by this thread and unfortunately personal vendettas seem to come to the fore some with MB and some between forum members. The original poster must be feeling more confused than when he asked his original question and still wont have a clear answer to his question. Good Man I hope you have been able to glean something from amongst this thread though I suspect you probably gave up some time ago and who could blame you. Theres no wonder THL has the reputation it has when you read through threads like this and is the reason I dont participate too frequently on this site along with many other far more knowledgable people. Your ss bred bitch I see your delighted with her and used your mates show bred dog as stud if I'm reading your posts right? How do you rate your bitch against this show bred stud? Workwise Y.I.S Leeview They both work well using there noses well,both will face cover,both retrieve,both ferret and both have very good stamina and yes I can see where your attempting to go with this. As you will see I started my post with saying there are plenty of other lines that will work admirably (and there are some that wont) I also suspect that as with most dogs the owner/trainer has a lot to do with it but a whippet should be a whippet whatever its heritage. My reasons for using this dog where not only based on his efforts in the field but to maintain confirmation and also to attempt to keep the size down as I feel its important that we dont lose sight of the kc standard. MB has cornered a niche in the market and all power to his elbow I suspect there are a lot partcipating in this thread who wish they could have done the same and are attempting to derail him purely out of jealousy or personal vendetta. The crux of it is that there are plenty of supporters of the MB line and dont doubt that will continue and there will also be those who would wish to knock him. Again this post was started with a genuine question but almost immediately it was hijacked by folk wanting to make more of it and to continue with there personal vendettas, the original poster has also stated that he has been able to come to something of a decision no thanks to the majority of posters and still there are those attempting to drag it on using it as a soapbox. It wouldn"t be so bad if most of you came out and said what your really trying to say instead of using inuendo and attempting to be clever. Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Your not wrong there are plenty of other lines out there doing there job day in day out, one of the best I"ve seen is show bred through and through and is in fact the sire to a litter I recently bred. However the original poster asked specifically about MB bred dogs and I at least have tried to answer him based on my own experience of owning one of the said dogs. I truly find her to be a honest capable dog carrying out the tasks that ANY whippet should be able to and am more than satisfied with her abilities or I wouldn"t have bred from her,one of the pups is staying here and will be tested the rest have all gone to working homes and I"m sure will be tested,so only time will tell. MB/sooty sam a very emotive subject as has been proven yet again by this thread and unfortunately personal vendettas seem to come to the fore some with MB and some between forum members. The original poster must be feeling more confused than when he asked his original question and still wont have a clear answer to his question. Good Man I hope you have been able to glean something from amongst this thread though I suspect you probably gave up some time ago and who could blame you. Theres no wonder THL has the reputation it has when you read through threads like this and is the reason I dont participate too frequently on this site along with many other far more knowledgable people. Your ss bred bitch I see your delighted with her and used your mates show bred dog as stud if I'm reading your posts right? How do you rate your bitch against this show bred stud? Workwise Y.I.S Leeview They both work well using there noses well,both will face cover,both retrieve,both ferret and both have very good stamina and yes I can see where your attempting to go with this. As you will see I started my post with saying there are plenty of other lines that will work admirably (and there are some that wont) I also suspect that as with most dogs the owner/trainer has a lot to do with it but a whippet should be a whippet whatever its heritage. My reasons for using this dog where not only based on his efforts in the field but to maintain confirmation and also to attempt to keep the size down as I feel its important that we dont lose sight of the kc standard. MB has cornered a niche in the market and all power to his elbow I suspect there are a lot partcipating in this thread who wish they could have done the same and are attempting to derail him purely out of jealousy or personal vendetta. The crux of it is that there are plenty of supporters of the MB line and dont doubt that will continue and there will also be those who would wish to knock him. Again this post was started with a genuine question but almost immediately it was hijacked by folk wanting to make more of it and to continue with there personal vendettas, the original poster has also stated that he has been able to come to something of a decision no thanks to the majority of posters and still there are those attempting to drag it on using it as a soapbox. It wouldn"t be so bad if most of you came out and said what your really trying to say instead of using inuendo and attempting to be clever. Thanks for your prompt honest answer I take it we agree then that other whippets can and do work? OK now this "niche" mb cornered his first ever whippet was ss, followed by a gorwynne bitch both born in 1991(19yrs ago not as has been mentioned 25yrs ago) these 2 were ordinary common every day whippets no more no less and mb coined the working whippet based on these 2's off spring and a dynasty was founded Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
no1 jibber 31 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 and what leeview you jelouse he got there before you lol Quote Link to post
cocker 2,654 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 he dont need to be jealous i know leeview well and i know mike brown,,, leeview has done far more than mike brown could ever dream of...................................................................... and thats a fact Quote Link to post
Leeview 791 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 and what leeview you jelouse he got there before you lol Not an ounce of jealousy in me no1hopper Y.I.S Leeview Quote Link to post
no1 jibber 31 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) no!!! i believe you tithead Edited December 27, 2010 by no1 jibber Quote Link to post
rolysmate 49 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 (edited) Your not wrong there are plenty of other lines out there doing there job day in day out, one of the best I"ve seen is show bred through and through and is in fact the sire to a litter I recently bred. However the original poster asked specifically about MB bred dogs and I at least have tried to answer him based on my own experience of owning one of the said dogs. I truly find her to be a honest capable dog carrying out the tasks that ANY whippet should be able to and am more than satisfied with her abilities or I wouldn"t have bred from her,one of the pups is staying here and will be tested the rest have all gone to working homes and I"m sure will be tested,so only time will tell. MB/sooty sam a very emotive subject as has been proven yet again by this thread and unfortunately personal vendettas seem to come to the fore some with MB and some between forum members. The original poster must be feeling more confused than when he asked his original question and still wont have a clear answer to his question. Good Man I hope you have been able to glean something from amongst this thread though I suspect you probably gave up some time ago and who could blame you. Theres no wonder THL has the reputation it has when you read through threads like this and is the reason I dont participate too frequently on this site along with many other far more knowledgable people. Your ss bred bitch I see your delighted with her and used your mates show bred dog as stud if I'm reading your posts right? How do you rate your bitch against this show bred stud? Workwise Y.I.S Leeview They both work well using there noses well,both will face cover,both retrieve,both ferret and both have very good stamina and yes I can see where your attempting to go with this. As you will see I started my post with saying there are plenty of other lines that will work admirably (and there are some that wont) I also suspect that as with most dogs the owner/trainer has a lot to do with it but a whippet should be a whippet whatever its heritage. My reasons for using this dog where not only based on his efforts in the field but to maintain confirmation and also to attempt to keep the size down as I feel its important that we dont lose sight of the kc standard. MB has cornered a niche in the market and all power to his elbow I suspect there are a lot partcipating in this thread who wish they could have done the same and are attempting to derail him purely out of jealousy or personal vendetta. The crux of it is that there are plenty of supporters of the MB line and dont doubt that will continue and there will also be those who would wish to knock him. Again this post was started with a genuine question but almost immediately it was hijacked by folk wanting to make more of it and to continue with there personal vendettas, the original poster has also stated that he has been able to come to something of a decision no thanks to the majority of posters and still there are those attempting to drag it on using it as a soapbox. It wouldn"t be so bad if most of you came out and said what your really trying to say instead of using inuendo and attempting to be clever. Thanks for your prompt honest answer I take it we agree then that other whippets can and do work? OK now this "niche" mb cornered his first ever whippet was ss, followed by a gorwynne bitch both born in 1991(19yrs ago not as has been mentioned 25yrs ago) these 2 were ordinary common every day whippets no more no less and mb coined the working whippet based on these 2's off spring and a dynasty was founded Y.I.S Leeview But some good marketing and continual threads all over the internet like this only help to further promote and perpetuate the line Edited December 27, 2010 by rolysmate Quote Link to post
firstrike 21 Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Your not wrong there are plenty of other lines out there doing there job day in day out, one of the best I"ve seen is show bred through and through and is in fact the sire to a litter I recently bred. However the original poster asked specifically about MB bred dogs and I at least have tried to answer him based on my own experience of owning one of the said dogs. I truly find her to be a honest capable dog carrying out the tasks that ANY whippet should be able to and am more than satisfied with her abilities or I wouldn"t have bred from her,one of the pups is staying here and will be tested the rest have all gone to working homes and I"m sure will be tested,so only time will tell. MB/sooty sam a very emotive subject as has been proven yet again by this thread and unfortunately personal vendettas seem to come to the fore some with MB and some between forum members. The original poster must be feeling more confused than when he asked his original question and still wont have a clear answer to his question. Good Man I hope you have been able to glean something from amongst this thread though I suspect you probably gave up some time ago and who could blame you. Theres no wonder THL has the reputation it has when you read through threads like this and is the reason I dont participate too frequently on this site along with many other far more knowledgable people. Your ss bred bitch I see your delighted with her and used your mates show bred dog as stud if I'm reading your posts right? How do you rate your bitch against this show bred stud? Workwise Y.I.S Leeview They both work well using there noses well,both will face cover,both retrieve,both ferret and both have very good stamina and yes I can see where your attempting to go with this. As you will see I started my post with saying there are plenty of other lines that will work admirably (and there are some that wont) I also suspect that as with most dogs the owner/trainer has a lot to do with it but a whippet should be a whippet whatever its heritage. My reasons for using this dog where not only based on his efforts in the field but to maintain confirmation and also to attempt to keep the size down as I feel its important that we dont lose sight of the kc standard. MB has cornered a niche in the market and all power to his elbow I suspect there are a lot partcipating in this thread who wish they could have done the same and are attempting to derail him purely out of jealousy or personal vendetta. The crux of it is that there are plenty of supporters of the MB line and dont doubt that will continue and there will also be those who would wish to knock him. Again this post was started with a genuine question but almost immediately it was hijacked by folk wanting to make more of it and to continue with there personal vendettas, the original poster has also stated that he has been able to come to something of a decision no thanks to the majority of posters and still there are those attempting to drag it on using it as a soapbox. It wouldn"t be so bad if most of you came out and said what your really trying to say instead of using inuendo and attempting to be clever. Thanks for your prompt honest answer I take it we agree then that other whippets can and do work? OK now this "niche" mb cornered his first ever whippet was ss, followed by a gorwynne bitch both born in 1991(19yrs ago not as has been mentioned 25yrs ago) these 2 were ordinary common every day whippets no more no less and mb coined the working whippet based on these 2's off spring and a dynasty was founded Y.I.S Leeview But some good marketing and continual threads all over the internet like this only help to further promote and perpetuate the line Quote Link to post
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