Mike brown whippets?

[OnTheBeam 7]

Referring to the original question. Any whippet will work to a certain degree, but when it comes down to using a whippet for substantial work, you want a animal with good bone, feet, jaw, brains, prey drive and stamina, and not to forget good skin. Most show bred/racing stock will not inherit a lot of these qualitys, its just speed for racing and confirmation for the show bred dog. Your best bet is the coursing lines, or mb lines being purposely bred to sustain the knocks and bounds of a working dogs life, so is less prone to injury. Theres a big difference in a dog that works, to a dog thats bred for work! As far as working strains go anyway, you'll always here of mb this ss that, blah blah blah. But until another working strain comes available in the whippet world that doesnt contain ss lord of the knight, and glen and so on and so on, I think its best to stick to whats tryd and tested. And if another good working line did come available, a majority of the people on here would only criticize it anyway, and the breeder. Everyones got to start somewhere people.

[derbypoacher 6]

No such thing as a working line people make out mike has invented some new type of whippet . What utter shit all he has done is buy in dogs that look the part and breed from them nothing more . He keeps no pups back to carry on his line he just buys them in as adults when he needs a replacement. Same with his studs including ss all brought in as older dogs and not bought on from pups . None that I know of other than Sooty sam have worked. So how is this a working line . All credit should go to the lads that have brought on a pup to work and work them hard not mike all he does is mate two dogs together he dont put in the leg work that has made his so called line of dog famous he just the hancock of the whippet world

[Ideation 8,216]

Referring to the original question. Any whippet will work to a certain degree, but when it comes down to using a whippet for substantial work, you want a animal with good bone, feet, jaw, brains, prey drive and stamina, and not to forget good skin. Most show bred/racing stock will not inherit a lot of these qualitys, its just speed for racing and confirmation for the show bred dog. Your best bet is the coursing lines, or mb lines being purposely bred to sustain the knocks and bounds of a working dogs life, so is less prone to injury. Theres a big difference in a dog that works, to a dog thats bred for work! As far as working strains go anyway, you'll always here of mb this ss that, blah blah blah. But until another working strain comes available in the whippet world that doesnt contain ss lord of the knight, and glen and so on and so on, I think its best to stick to whats tryd and tested. And if another good working line did come available, a majority of the people on here would only criticize it anyway, and the breeder. Everyones got to start somewhere people.

 

 

Very Very VERY true!

[Ideation 8,216]

No such thing as a working line people make out mike has invented some new type of whippet . What utter shit all he has done is buy in dogs that look the part and breed from them nothing more . He keeps no pups back to carry on his line he just buys them in as adults when he needs a replacement. Same with his studs including ss all brought in as older dogs and not bought on from pups . None that I know of other than Sooty sam have worked. So how is this a working line . All credit should go to the lads that have brought on a pup to work and work them hard not mike all he does is mate two dogs together he dont put in the leg work that has made his so called line of dog famous he just the hancock of the whippet world

 

 

Do you have any original thoughts or do you usually just edit together other peoples?

[DottyDoo 500]

this shit still goin on

[derbypoacher 6]

Plenty of original views when it comes to whippets not much point airing them on here they just fall on deaf ears . I dont think there is much point people asking for views on mike brown whippet as there minds are often already made up and they go there anyway . As I said at the start of this pointless thread my opinions aint based on here say or my mate has had one sort of crap iv been there and seen with my own eyes and heard with my own ears and I wasnt won over by any of it . I wish anyone having a pup from him all the luck in the world for its hunting future but there not for me . And when ever some one asks for a opinion on mike brown whippets il give them mine . I say what I see thats all

[OnTheBeam 7]

No such thing as a working line people make out mike has invented some new type of whippet . What utter shit all he has done is buy in dogs that look the part and breed from them nothing more . He keeps no pups back to carry on his line he just buys them in as adults when he needs a replacement. Same with his studs including ss all brought in as older dogs and not bought on from pups . None that I know of other than Sooty sam have worked. So how is this a working line . All credit should go to the lads that have brought on a pup to work and work them hard not mike all he does is mate two dogs together he dont put in the leg work that has made his so called line of dog famous he just the hancock of the whippet world

you have your own opinion, thats fair enough. But I've stated the obvious. Its like me going to buy a Labrador from a pet home, and then training it to work with the gun. Yes, it'll work to a certain extent with the right training and entering, but would it be as good or better than one that is bred for work?? The answer to that is NO! Same goes with terriers, I wouldnt buy a border from show stock, and expect it to be a top class digging dog would I. Point proven.

[derbypoacher 6]

Mikes dogs aint worked thats the point I totaly agree worker to worker can improve the chances of getting a gooden thats why I went elsewhere after my visit

[no1 jibber 31]

No such thing as a working line people make out mike has invented some new type of whippet . What utter shit all he has done is buy in dogs that look the part and breed from them nothing more . He keeps no pups back to carry on his line he just buys them in as adults when he needs a replacement. Same with his studs including ss all brought in as older dogs and not bought on from pups . None that I know of other than Sooty sam have worked. So how is this a working line . All credit should go to the lads that have brought on a pup to work and work them hard not mike all he does is mate two dogs together he dont put in the leg work that has made his so called line of dog famous he just the hancock of the whippet world

you have your own opinion, thats fair enough. But I've stated the obvious. Its like me going to buy a Labrador from a pet home, and then training it to work with the gun. Yes, it'll work to a certain extent with the right training and entering, but would it be as good or better than one that is bred for work?? The answer to that is NO! Same goes with terriers, I wouldnt buy a border from show stock, and expect it to be a top class digging dog would I. Point proven.

 

 

people buy show whippets and have success in the field

[Leeview 791]

who said you need to go worker to worker have a look at the horse breeding world pigeon world they all breed sons/daughter/grandchildren of champions pigeons never out of the loft producing champions. horse never on a race coarse producing champions you stand a better chance worker to worker but the other ways work to. in the lurcher world they look for a line like irish lady lucky the dark destroyer.

 

Mmmm anyone with any understanding now these Champion pigeons must have done something to merit the title Champion surely?

Clonmel next month 64 dog puppy Derby and 64 bitch puppy Oaks now how many different sires will there be covering those 128 puppies? Bexhill Eoin had 45 pups qualify last year out of the 128 Bexhill Eoin, his sire and his grandsire all won the Derby so to me that says winners/workers produce winners

Irish Lady and Lucky were greyhoundxsaluki

As for the horses they use a stallion to suit, no good putting a 11/4mile mare to a 6furlong or vice versa is it?

Y.I.S Leeview

[Leeview 791]

No such thing as a working line people make out mike has invented some new type of whippet . What utter shit all he has done is buy in dogs that look the part and breed from them nothing more . He keeps no pups back to carry on his line he just buys them in as adults when he needs a replacement. Same with his studs including ss all brought in as older dogs and not bought on from pups . None that I know of other than Sooty sam have worked. So how is this a working line . All credit should go to the lads that have brought on a pup to work and work them hard not mike all he does is mate two dogs together he dont put in the leg work that has made his so called line of dog famous he just the hancock of the whippet world

you have your own opinion, thats fair enough. But I've stated the obvious. Its like me going to buy a Labrador from a pet home, and then training it to work with the gun. Yes, it'll work to a certain extent with the right training and entering, but would it be as good or better than one that is bred for work?? The answer to that is NO! Same goes with terriers, I wouldnt buy a border from show stock, and expect it to be a top class digging dog would I. Point proven.

 

With all due respect onthebeam mb is using the word working whippet NOT actually working them so how will they be better than the labrador your buying from a pet home and expecting to work? you've already answered that I see

Y.I.S Leeview

[DottyDoo 500]

 

 

you tell them leeview

[derbypoacher 6]

Yep people have success with show whippets but they are sold as show whippets no bull shit or big boasts . When you go to buy from working stock you would expect it to be working wouldnt you not unfit and kennel bound as I found mikes dogs then I was shown 15 year old photos of mikes own dogs no up to date ones only up to date ones of other peoples dogs . This may be acceptable for other people but when I go to buy a pup advertised as a working whippet I want proof that both the sire and dam actualy work none of this was proven not one photo could be provided and not one dog in the yard was fit enough to work. On the plus side all dogs were in good health and the yard and kennels were spotless .

[OnTheBeam 7]

No such thing as a working line people make out mike has invented some new type of whippet . What utter shit all he has done is buy in dogs that look the part and breed from them nothing more . He keeps no pups back to carry on his line he just buys them in as adults when he needs a replacement. Same with his studs including ss all brought in as older dogs and not bought on from pups . None that I know of other than Sooty sam have worked. So how is this a working line . All credit should go to the lads that have brought on a pup to work and work them hard not mike all he does is mate two dogs together he dont put in the leg work that has made his so called line of dog famous he just the hancock of the whippet world

you have your own opinion, thats fair enough. But I've stated the obvious. Its like me going to buy a Labrador from a pet home, and then training it to work with the gun. Yes, it'll work to a certain extent with the right training and entering, but would it be as good or better than one that is bred for work?? The answer to that is NO! Same goes with terriers, I wouldnt buy a border from show stock, and expect it to be a top class digging dog would I. Point proven.

 

With all due respect onthebeam mb is using the word working whippet NOT actually working them so how will they be better than the labrador your buying from a pet home and expecting to work? you've already answered that I see

Y.I.S Leeview

how do you know he doesnt work his dogs? Wheres your proof? Are you a working dog detective? Because you go on like one. You speak like a total idiot to be honest leeveiw. The proof is in the pudding, as they say! And as I put in my 1st post about good bone, feet etc etc. Thats what you get with the coursing and mb lines. I certainly wouldnt buy a show bred whippet, and settle for second best. Word of advice anyway leeveiw speak sense, not in riddles. I have no more to say on this subject, enjoy the rest of the debate people.

[derbypoacher 6]

The proof is in the proof mate and there aint any trust me I spent all afternoon there he dont work them dogs he is liveing of the backs of good honest dog men that work his stock and that is bang out of order . As for good feet how will mike know if his dogs feet are good if there not tested they aint walked let alone run . I have nothing against him breeding I just wish people would look through his shit and go buy mike brown lines from someone who works them for f**k sake there is plenty out there . But if people insist on giving him there money no amount of threads like this will change anything . I think his original stuff must have been worth a look but now id personaly leave it alone