whin 463 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 onlt true test is one dog one hare law om slipping all depends the land the cover the sitaition you are in ,aa for catching thnm in sno not the same as good running fast winter wheat etc ,plamping can be sporting on big land as the hare gets out the lamp and use the hilly bits of feilds to escape small feilds with grass walls fences thick hedges isnt treal sport just pescontrol done both and i prefer a decent feils agood hare and one dog true test Quote Link to post
mossyh07 64 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Hare coursing is one off the most talked about things on here and there is rules but them rules are made by the match men or the men who hunt hares single and if you dont do it there way then your not doing it right or giving the hare respect. Dont get me wrong the hare is the biggest test to any running dog in the uk running ways but are giving to much respect. Yes if you have a long dog and you are into running hare for 5 6 mins well that is all well and fine if you have luchers and slip both dogs that is fine as well everyone hunts in there diff ways may it be lamp single double snow summer if your happy at the way you run you dogs on hare that is up to you. IMAO l think 2 luchers on good winters hare is fair game,also think that if you have match dogs or long dogs it should be one dog and one dog only.if you want talk about lamping hares l think there fair play in big fields with one dog (lamping dog on it) because in big fields on the lamp most lamping dogs wont get near hare (WINTER)but in small fields a hare does not really have a chance on the lamp. But as l said lots off people like see there dogs getting tested to the max but others are just out to kill no matter what and this two setts off people will never see eye to eye when it comes to hunting hares. I think you'll find that these 'rules' you talk about were around well before the 'match men' you talk about ever came about. Every animal in the contryside deserves respect you just have to take the time out to see why then maybe you'll understand. Each to there own i suppose but i myself will always frown upon hares being run under the lamp and the heavy snow and such, and just for the record i'm no 'match man' either. Just a lad that loves hares and dogs watching veiw videos on you tube from the 80s and not one hare was giving 100 yards head start they where all kick ups . You say that every animal in countryside deserves respect will never see foxes getting 100yards head start or not lamped same with rabbits and deer etc not one off this animals are giving rules there lamped run in snow and summer hunted day and night. I didnt say it was just match man l said that long dog men also have this rules for hares and l respect that but dont run everyone else down because you think that running single is the only way to hunt hares what about people run hares with beagles???? is that wrong I don't see where your getting he 100 yards law, as I've said before every hare is different and not all terrains are the same, the man slipping the dog should know whats a fair slip and what isnt. In park coursing i think to 100 yards is the guideline for a slip but maybe i'm wrong and maybe thats where you found that figure. I always thought deer were giving law of some sort aswell but i'm only going by books and dvds as i've never run deer. Now the reason i think a hare should get the respect is that foxes and rabbits don't get is because both are better known as a pest than the hare in most cases. Also tell me what other hunted quarry that has so many predators will sit out the middle of a field day in day out where its constantly in danger from birds or prey, men, foxes, badgers, mink etc. Most hunted animals live underground or in forestry(as some hares do) but the hare chooses to use his legs and wits to take on all comers and from an animal so far down the foodchain i think that does deserve respect. So i think you should stop making comments referring to youtube vids all the time and get out and do abit, and hunting hares with beagles is a completely different game than running them with mongrels, again theres nearly two good months of good hunting left get out and do abit. 1 Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 theres nowt worse when they dont listern is there Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted December 13, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 yes and its still illeagal in England so watch what your saying boys yes you can only shoot em leagaly?so who sticks to rules?lol Quote Link to post
Guest crobinc840 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 yes and its still illeagal in England so watch what your saying boys yes you can only shoot em leagaly?so who sticks to rules?lol Let's start a poll, who sticks to the rules? Quote Link to post
Qbgrey 4,090 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 yes and its still illeagal in England so watch what your saying boys yes you can only shoot em leagaly?so who sticks to rules?lol Let's start a poll, who sticks to the rules? yeah lets all admit in writing we break the law,im getting worried about you mary Quote Link to post
Guest crobinc840 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 yes and its still illeagal in England so watch what your saying boys yes you can only shoot em leagaly?so who sticks to rules?lol Let's start a poll, who sticks to the rules? yeah lets all admit in writing we break the law,im getting worried about you mary You guys are lacking in a sense of humor Quote Link to post
Qbgrey 4,090 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 yes and its still illeagal in England so watch what your saying boys yes you can only shoot em leagaly?so who sticks to rules?lol Let's start a poll, who sticks to the rules? yeah lets all admit in writing we break the law,im getting worried about you mary You guys are lacking in a sense of humor lol i got a sense of humour me im mad i am mad i tell ya Quote Link to post
Guest crobinc840 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 yes and its still illeagal in England so watch what your saying boys yes you can only shoot em leagaly?so who sticks to rules?lol Let's start a poll, who sticks to the rules? yeah lets all admit in writing we break the law,im getting worried about you mary You guys are lacking in a sense of humor lol i got a sense of humour me im mad i am mad i tell ya Well calm down dude and take some water with it next time Quote Link to post
iceman001979 1,316 Posted December 13, 2010 Report Share Posted December 13, 2010 Hare coursing is one off the most talked about things on here and there is rules but them rules are made by the match men or the men who hunt hares single and if you dont do it there way then your not doing it right or giving the hare respect. Dont get me wrong the hare is the biggest test to any running dog in the uk running ways but are giving to much respect. Yes if you have a long dog and you are into running hare for 5 6 mins well that is all well and fine if you have luchers and slip both dogs that is fine as well everyone hunts in there diff ways may it be lamp single double snow summer if your happy at the way you run you dogs on hare that is up to you. IMAO l think 2 luchers on good winters hare is fair game,also think that if you have match dogs or long dogs it should be one dog and one dog only.if you want talk about lamping hares l think there fair play in big fields with one dog (lamping dog on it) because in big fields on the lamp most lamping dogs wont get near hare (WINTER)but in small fields a hare does not really have a chance on the lamp. But as l said lots off people like see there dogs getting tested to the max but others are just out to kill no matter what and this two setts off people will never see eye to eye when it comes to hunting hares. I think you'll find that these 'rules' you talk about were around well before the 'match men' you talk about ever came about. Every animal in the contryside deserves respect you just have to take the time out to see why then maybe you'll understand. Each to there own i suppose but i myself will always frown upon hares being run under the lamp and the heavy snow and such, and just for the record i'm no 'match man' either. Just a lad that loves hares and dogs watching veiw videos on you tube from the 80s and not one hare was giving 100 yards head start they where all kick ups . You say that every animal in countryside deserves respect will never see foxes getting 100yards head start or not lamped same with rabbits and deer etc not one off this animals are giving rules there lamped run in snow and summer hunted day and night. I didnt say it was just match man l said that long dog men also have this rules for hares and l respect that but dont run everyone else down because you think that running single is the only way to hunt hares what about people run hares with beagles???? is that wrong I don't see where your getting he 100 yards law, as I've said before every hare is different and not all terrains are the same, the man slipping the dog should know whats a fair slip and what isnt. In park coursing i think to 100 yards is the guideline for a slip but maybe i'm wrong and maybe thats where you found that figure. I always thought deer were giving law of some sort aswell but i'm only going by books and dvds as i've never run deer. Now the reason i think a hare should get the respect is that foxes and rabbits don't get is because both are better known as a pest than the hare in most cases. Also tell me what other hunted quarry that has so many predators will sit out the middle of a field day in day out where its constantly in danger from birds or prey, men, foxes, badgers, mink etc. Most hunted animals live underground or in forestry(as some hares do) but the hare chooses to use his legs and wits to take on all comers and from an animal so far down the foodchain i think that does deserve respect. So i think you should stop making comments referring to youtube vids all the time and get out and do abit, and hunting hares with beagles is a completely different game than running them with mongrels, again theres nearly two good months of good hunting left get out and do abit. Will I disagree with you don't think the hare should get respect your talking there also pest that cost millions in damage to crops each year if you respect them so much why hunt them????Yes do talk about you tube videos because its good see how they used run hares 20 years ago and the way they run them to day. And don't worry am out doing a bit got two to day and had some good runs but next year l be running single only really getting into hares again this year and been running my 6 year old bitch and her pup together so pup learns about ditches and gates fence etc do same next year with my 12 week old pup then l be running single but as l always said if the way your hunting makes you happy and dog are fit well well keep it up best luck rest season be lucky getting month hunting because there big snow comimg again this weekend Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Most coursing folk have a deep respect for the hare as a quarry species,the ultimate test of speed strength and endurance of both hunted and pursuer,these people find it difficult to understand the mindset of people who show little or no respect to the hare.The vast majority of none Saluki bred dogs cannot compete on the same level as match dogs,therfore lurcher owners try and tip the balance in their favour by fair means or foul,this is where the disagreements start.You can stand on one or the other side of the fence,or sit on it-but beware of splinters. do you have splinters then? Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Hare coursing is one off the most talked about things on here and there is rules but them rules are made by the match men or the men who hunt hares single and if you dont do it there way then your not doing it right or giving the hare respect. Dont get me wrong the hare is the biggest test to any running dog in the uk running ways but are giving to much respect. Yes if you have a long dog and you are into running hare for 5 6 mins well that is all well and fine if you have luchers and slip both dogs that is fine as well everyone hunts in there diff ways may it be lamp single double snow summer if your happy at the way you run you dogs on hare that is up to you. IMAO l think 2 luchers on good winters hare is fair game,also think that if you have match dogs or long dogs it should be one dog and one dog only.if you want talk about lamping hares l think there fair play in big fields with one dog (lamping dog on it) because in big fields on the lamp most lamping dogs wont get near hare (WINTER)but in small fields a hare does not really have a chance on the lamp. But as l said lots off people like see there dogs getting tested to the max but others are just out to kill no matter what and this two setts off people will never see eye to eye when it comes to hunting hares. I think you'll find that these 'rules' you talk about were around well before the 'match men' you talk about ever came about. Every animal in the contryside deserves respect you just have to take the time out to see why then maybe you'll understand. Each to there own i suppose but i myself will always frown upon hares being run under the lamp and the heavy snow and such, and just for the record i'm no 'match man' either. Just a lad that loves hares and dogs watching veiw videos on you tube from the 80s and not one hare was giving 100 yards head start they where all kick ups . You say that every animal in countryside deserves respect will never see foxes getting 100yards head start or not lamped same with rabbits and deer etc not one off this animals are giving rules there lamped run in snow and summer hunted day and night. I didnt say it was just match man l said that long dog men also have this rules for hares and l respect that but dont run everyone else down because you think that running single is the only way to hunt hares what about people run hares with beagles???? is that wrong I don't see where your getting he 100 yards law, as I've said before every hare is different and not all terrains are the same, the man slipping the dog should know whats a fair slip and what isnt. In park coursing i think to 100 yards is the guideline for a slip but maybe i'm wrong and maybe thats where you found that figure. I always thought deer were giving law of some sort aswell but i'm only going by books and dvds as i've never run deer. Now the reason i think a hare should get the respect is that foxes and rabbits don't get is because both are better known as a pest than the hare in most cases. Also tell me what other hunted quarry that has so many predators will sit out the middle of a field day in day out where its constantly in danger from birds or prey, men, foxes, badgers, mink etc. Most hunted animals live underground or in forestry(as some hares do) but the hare chooses to use his legs and wits to take on all comers and from an animal so far down the foodchain i think that does deserve respect. So i think you should stop making comments referring to youtube vids all the time and get out and do abit, and hunting hares with beagles is a completely different game than running them with mongrels, again theres nearly two good months of good hunting left get out and do abit. Will I disagree with you don't think the hare should get respect your talking there also pest that cost millions in damage to crops each year if you respect them so much why hunt them????Yes do talk about you tube videos because its good see how they used run hares 20 years ago and the way they run them to day. And don't worry am out doing a bit got two to day and had some good runs but next year l be running single only really getting into hares again this year and been running my 6 year old bitch and her pup together so pup learns about ditches and gates fence etc do same next year with my 12 week old pup then l be running single but as l always said if the way your hunting makes you happy and dog are fit well well keep it up best luck rest season be lucky getting month hunting because there big snow comimg again this weekend Is it a kind of a dream floating into the night or is this a dream bright eyes lol Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 whats the rules on hares?no snow,no lamping,no coursing,no two dogs,,,you can shoot them?rules rules rules.ive sat my dog down nd told him all these rules?but he just aims to please.lol if its OK to run them in deep snow,then surely these REAL HUNTERS should be showing off their trophies after running them on this frozen ground.the mind boggles. :icon_eek:YOU CAN ONLY SHOOT HARES BY LAW????,two wrongs dont make a right.enjoy what you do nd let others do what they do?no trophies, no real hunters,no bitching?where do i say run them in snow or frozen ground yes the mind boggles :sick: Quote Link to post
hickymick 37 Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 whats the rules on hares?no snow,no lamping,no coursing,no two dogs,,,you can shoot them?rules rules rules.ive sat my dog down nd told him all these rules?but he just aims to please.lol if its OK to run them in deep snow,then surely these REAL HUNTERS should be showing off their trophies after running them on this frozen ground.the mind boggles. :icon_eek:YOU CAN ONLY SHOOT HARES BY LAW????,two wrongs dont make a right.enjoy what you do nd let others do what they do?no trophies, no real hunters,no bitching?where do i say run them in snow or frozen ground yes the mind boggles :sick: Quote Link to post
rocky1 942 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 its ilegal and should,nt be disscuss on a public forum Quote Link to post
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