suffolkpoacher 219 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 bring a pup down here it would not catch f**k all ,or bring you alsation x down i got some big long ears for you ,they will blow you heaps of shit away 1 Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 Does someone want to put up some photos of 12 week old pups, cos i might be wrong but when i think of a 12 week old pup i'm thinking of the age where they are still acting like babies and running into chair legs etc. youve been out with 3/4 dogs who started that age.....did they look f****d to you? No they are excellent dogs. I agree fully with taking young dogs out to learn and experiance, watch older dogs and get a feel. There is a lot to learn. But just dont think i would go out lamping with just a 12 week old pup and a lamp and plan to run game. I guess it also depends on the individual dog. 1 Quote Link to post
lofti 579 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 im gutted.the conditions are perfect for a night on the lamp where i am and all i have is a 3 month old pup. so i took her out for a walk and took the lamp with me so i could have a look around and get the pup used to the beam etc and f##k me theres rabbits every where. would i be in the wrong by letting her off the lead to have a snout about and see if she would run one? she pulls on the lead when she sees them. im so tempted BUT unsure if i should or not, what would you advise? my advice is... if you run your puppy now mate there is a VERY good chance you will ruin it for ever. what is the rush? your pup needs to grow first,i would be concentrating on basic training at this age . time gose very quick,next season will be here before you know it. if you do it right now you will reap the rewards later. 1 Quote Link to post
DEERMAN 1,020 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Does someone want to put up some photos of 12 week old pups, cos i might be wrong but when i think of a 12 week old pup i'm thinking of the age where they are still acting like babies and running into chair legs etc. youve been out with 3/4 dogs who started that age.....did they look f****d to you? No they are excellent dogs. I agree fully with taking young dogs out to learn and experiance, watch older dogs and get a feel. There is a lot to learn. But just dont think i would go out lamping with just a 12 week old pup and a lamp and plan to run game. I guess it also depends on the individual dog. Thats where common sence comes into it.....your not going to catch anything with just a 12 weeks old pup ....but they do learn going out with older dogs taking them out young ,even if its just getting through gates ,getting use to motors etc...everyone does things different you got to see for yourself then take good out of different ways and do what you think is best,you never stop learning.happy hunting 1 Quote Link to post
johnny boy68 11,726 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Does someone want to put up some photos of 12 week old pups, cos i might be wrong but when i think of a 12 week old pup i'm thinking of the age where they are still acting like babies and running into chair legs etc. youve been out with 3/4 dogs who started that age.....did they look f****d to you? No they are excellent dogs. I agree fully with taking young dogs out to learn and experiance, watch older dogs and get a feel. There is a lot to learn. But just dont think i would go out lamping with just a 12 week old pup and a lamp and plan to run game. I guess it also depends on the individual dog. Thats where common sence comes into it.....your not going to catch anything with just a 12 weeks old pup ....but they do learn going out with older dogs taking them out young ,even if its just getting through gates ,getting use to motors etc...everyone does things different you got to see for yourself then take good out of different ways and do what you think is best,you never stop learning.happy hunting I think its the taking the dog into the feild thats confusing everybody People think taking the dog out means giving it run for run with an experienced dog........when infact its the opposite,let the puppy see what its job is going to entail.I've taken pups out many occasions at 12 weeks some have not been slipped until they're 6 months.....when you know you're dog you'll know when he/she is ready!As you said DEERMAN theres lots to learn the pup besides chasing and catching......things that are just has important ie:-fences,gates and general feild-craft Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Does someone want to put up some photos of 12 week old pups, cos i might be wrong but when i think of a 12 week old pup i'm thinking of the age where they are still acting like babies and running into chair legs etc. youve been out with 3/4 dogs who started that age.....did they look f****d to you? No they are excellent dogs. I agree fully with taking young dogs out to learn and experiance, watch older dogs and get a feel. There is a lot to learn. But just dont think i would go out lamping with just a 12 week old pup and a lamp and plan to run game. I guess it also depends on the individual dog. Thats where common sence comes into it.....your not going to catch anything with just a 12 weeks old pup ....but they do learn going out with older dogs taking them out young ,even if its just getting through gates ,getting use to motors etc...everyone does things different you got to see for yourself then take good out of different ways and do what you think is best,you never stop learning.happy hunting I think its the taking the dog into the feild thats confusing everybody People think taking the dog out means giving it run for run with an experienced dog........when infact its the opposite,let the puppy see what its job is going to entail.I've taken pups out many occasions at 12 weeks some have not been slipped until they're 6 months.....when you know you're dog you'll know when he/she is ready!As you said DEERMAN theres lots to learn the pup besides chasing and catching......things that are just has important ie:-fences,gates and general feild-craft well said johnny boy and deerman but your stilll banging your head against a brick wall with these lot Quote Link to post
no1 jibber 31 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Does someone want to put up some photos of 12 week old pups, cos i might be wrong but when i think of a 12 week old pup i'm thinking of the age where they are still acting like babies and running into chair legs etc. youve been out with 3/4 dogs who started that age.....did they look f****d to you? No they are excellent dogs. I agree fully with taking young dogs out to learn and experiance, watch older dogs and get a feel. There is a lot to learn. But just dont think i would go out lamping with just a 12 week old pup and a lamp and plan to run game. I guess it also depends on the individual dog. Thats where common sence comes into it.....your not going to catch anything with just a 12 weeks old pup ....but they do learn going out with older dogs taking them out young ,even if its just getting through gates ,getting use to motors etc...everyone does things different you got to see for yourself then take good out of different ways and do what you think is best,you never stop learning.happy hunting I do all the above get them used to the fields, socialised, get them used to the motor get them coming back when called, getting them used to the lamp, start them jumping small things at around 4 months. All makes a better dog when the pup is finally ready to be worked and they have the confidence not to be frightened buy anything coz they already are used to it all, but one thing is for sure after all that hard work i would never slip it on something it wont catch. they dont learn in the kennel or on a lead as flint sez, but theres no rush when a pup still has its milk teath in. alb Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 Does someone want to put up some photos of 12 week old pups, cos i might be wrong but when i think of a 12 week old pup i'm thinking of the age where they are still acting like babies and running into chair legs etc. youve been out with 3/4 dogs who started that age.....did they look f****d to you? No they are excellent dogs. I agree fully with taking young dogs out to learn and experiance, watch older dogs and get a feel. There is a lot to learn. But just dont think i would go out lamping with just a 12 week old pup and a lamp and plan to run game. I guess it also depends on the individual dog. Thats where common sence comes into it.....your not going to catch anything with just a 12 weeks old pup ....but they do learn going out with older dogs taking them out young ,even if its just getting through gates ,getting use to motors etc...everyone does things different you got to see for yourself then take good out of different ways and do what you think is best,you never stop learning.happy hunting I think its the taking the dog into the feild thats confusing everybody People think taking the dog out means giving it run for run with an experienced dog........when infact its the opposite,let the puppy see what its job is going to entail.I've taken pups out many occasions at 12 weeks some have not been slipped until they're 6 months.....when you know you're dog you'll know when he/she is ready!As you said DEERMAN theres lots to learn the pup besides chasing and catching......things that are just has important ie:-fences,gates and general feild-craft well said johnny boy and deerman but your stilll banging your head against a brick wall with these lot Your arguing round in circles. I dont think any one ever said anything negative about taking the dog out to exepriance whats to come, the original question was about weather it would be a good idea to be slipping a 12 week old pup on rabbits. Which some folk said they wouldnt do and others said they would. Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,503 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 i find these threads facinating,, on one side you have the start them early guys, and then on the other start them late.. i have to say i love the arrogance of the early crew. and how they think there dogs started early are better than evryone elses. the fact is there are plenty of great dogs that have been started later in pupyhood. 1 Quote Link to post
nighteyes 275 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 likes been said no harm in letting come out for a look,sniff at what the older dogs are getting we all do this im sure,but been there running pups well before they were ready when starting out as a teenger and couldnt wait and learnt from my mistakes, good thing come to those who wait Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 i find these threads facinating,, on one side you have the start them early guys, and then on the other start them late.. i have to say i love the arrogance of the early crew. and how they think there dogs started early are better than evryone elses. the fact is there are plenty of great dogs that have been started later in pupyhood. i never said my dog was better then any one elses ive never bigged my dog up im very proud of him and at what he has achieved i dont care if he doesnt catch when he goes out i love to watch a dog work alb Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,503 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 i find these threads facinating,, on one side you have the start them early guys, and then on the other start them late.. i have to say i love the arrogance of the early crew. and how they think there dogs started early are better than evryone elses. the fact is there are plenty of great dogs that have been started later in pupyhood. as one of us up set you, why would you think that,,, the only reason i can think you would think that is because my views are difrent to you yours. whilst i dont agree with this realy early running of pups on game, and your pride at never having a job,,, i do however look forward to hearing about your dogs , im not like evryone else who compleaty disregards some of the stranger crosses,, in fact i realy like the idea of the sled dog crosses and german shepard crosses ect, so to recap , not upset , just a difrent opinion Quote Link to post
bratton 4 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 id get her on a few squatters and build her up nice and slow my dog started at 3 and a half months and my new pup is 9 weeks and she will be going out next week starting a dog at 3 and a half months u must not no what youre onabout it will not have a getting near a rabbit and by the time its a year old it will be yapping or just diss interseted Quote Link to post
malc1 544 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 id get her on a few squatters and build her up nice and slow my dog started at 3 and a half months and my new pup is 9 weeks and she will be going out next week starting a dog at 3 and a half months u must not no what youre onabout it will not have a getting near a rabbit and by the time its a year old it will be yapping or just diss interseted my dog is 17 months old now,never yapped,never lost interest going as strong as ever.Heyho but i don`t know what im doing. Quote Link to post
morton 5,368 Posted December 12, 2010 Report Share Posted December 12, 2010 There is a world of difference between taking a pup along to exercise its mind,investigating all thats new,growing in confidence with each new experience and learning to interact with its peers,than taking it out hunting before it is physically and mentally capable.IMO an owner that would do this is probably trying to make up for something lacking in their own physique or personality. Quote Link to post
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