Brigzy 1,298 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 runnin pups at ten twelve fourteen weeks old ! feckin idiots. shouldnt be allowed to have dogs !!!!! Quote Link to post
dafydd thomas 13 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 im gutted.the conditions are perfect for a night on the lamp where i am and all i have is a 3 month old pup. so i took her out for a walk and took the lamp with me so i could have a look around and get the pup used to the beam etc and f##k me theres rabbits every where. would i be in the wrong by letting her off the lead to have a snout about and see if she would run one? she pulls on the lead when she sees them. im so tempted BUT unsure if i should or not, what would you advise? jesus mate im glad you went on to say the story about the pup or you could have landed ur self in a right pickle Quote Link to post
gizmo88 1 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If they were in the wild they'd hunt from pups and I know for a fact a wild dog is a better hunter then a domestic one taking them young is a part of getting them deeper in touch with there instincts plus yes they take little knocks when young but learn to respect there ground there running on, better then a adult dog running flat out into things or not repecting there speed then that's when serious injures happen. like mine to learn when not as much harm can come to them. Quote Link to post
MR RABBIT 715 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If they were in the wild they'd hunt from pups and I know for a fact a wild dog is a better hunter then a domestic one taking them young is a part of getting them deeper in touch with there instincts plus yes they take little knocks when young but learn to respect there ground there running on, better then a adult dog running flat out into things or not repecting there speed then that's when serious injures happen. like mine to learn when not as much harm can come to them. next best thing to dog is the brittish fox do u think a 4 month fox cud taking adult rabbits for fun i know what your saying but even in wild cubs or pups need time Quote Link to post
MR RABBIT 715 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If they were in the wild they'd hunt from pups and I know for a fact a wild dog is a better hunter then a domestic one taking them young is a part of getting them deeper in touch with there instincts plus yes they take little knocks when young but learn to respect there ground there running on, better then a adult dog running flat out into things or not repecting there speed then that's when serious injures happen. like mine to learn when not as much harm can come to them. next best thing to dog is the brittish fox do u think a 4 month fox cub taking adult rabbits for fun i know what your saying but even in wild cubs or pups need time say other wise u would be a fool and there pup Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 (edited) The African Wild Dog reproduces at any time of year, although mating peaks between March and June during the second half of the rainy season. Litters can contain 2-19 pups, though 10 is the most usual number.[6] The time between births is usually 12–14 months, though it can also be as short as 6 months if all of the previous young die. The typical gestation period is approximately 70 days.[7][not in citation given] Pups are usually born in an abandoned den dug by other animals such as those of the Aardvark. Weaning takes place at about 10 weeks. After 3 months, the den is abandoned and the pups begin to run with the pack.At the age of 8–11 months they can kill small prey, but they are not proficient until about 12–14 months,at which time they can fend for themselves. Pups reach sexual maturity at the age of 12–18 months. Taken from this link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Wild_Dog They may not be proficient at hunting at a young age but they are running with the pack and learning. I think people misunderstand taking a young dog out with the lamp is part of the learning and socialisation period I doubt that the lads that are starting their dogs early mean that at 4 months old they are working the dog hard on the lamp but it is watching and learning just as it would if it ran with a pack.In my view walking the dog out with the lamp is all part of its training just like sit/stay/stock breaking and the earlier these skills are learn't the better. Edited December 11, 2010 by danw Quote Link to post
Guest crobinc840 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 The African Wild Dog reproduces at any time of year, although mating peaks between March and June during the second half of the rainy season. Litters can contain 2-19 pups, though 10 is the most usual number.[6] The time between births is usually 12–14 months, though it can also be as short as 6 months if all of the previous young die. The typical gestation period is approximately 70 days.[7][not in citation given] Pups are usually born in an abandoned den dug by other animals such as those of the Aardvark. Weaning takes place at about 10 weeks. After 3 months, the den is abandoned and the pups begin to run with the pack.At the age of 8–11 months they can kill small prey, but they are not proficient until about 12–14 months,at which time they can fend for themselves. Pups reach sexual maturity at the age of 12–18 months. Taken from this link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Wild_Dog They may not be proficient at hunting at a young age but they are running with the pack and learning. I think people misunderstand taking a young dog out with the lamp is part of the learning and socialisation period I doubt that the lads that are starting their dogs early mean that at 4 months old they are working the dog hard on the lamp but it is watching and learning just as it would if it ran with a pack.In my view walking the dog out with the lamp is all part of its training just like sit/stay/stock breaking and the earlier these skills are learn't the better. Not many dogs around that are like Lyacon Pictus, it's more like a hyena. I think you'd be closer with a coyote to compare to. Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 The African Wild Dog reproduces at any time of year, although mating peaks between March and June during the second half of the rainy season. Litters can contain 2-19 pups, though 10 is the most usual number.[6] The time between births is usually 12–14 months, though it can also be as short as 6 months if all of the previous young die. The typical gestation period is approximately 70 days.[7][not in citation given] Pups are usually born in an abandoned den dug by other animals such as those of the Aardvark. Weaning takes place at about 10 weeks. After 3 months, the den is abandoned and the pups begin to run with the pack.At the age of 8–11 months they can kill small prey, but they are not proficient until about 12–14 months,at which time they can fend for themselves. Pups reach sexual maturity at the age of 12–18 months. Taken from this link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Wild_Dog They may not be proficient at hunting at a young age but they are running with the pack and learning. I think people misunderstand taking a young dog out with the lamp is part of the learning and socialisation period I doubt that the lads that are starting their dogs early mean that at 4 months old they are working the dog hard on the lamp but it is watching and learning just as it would if it ran with a pack.In my view walking the dog out with the lamp is all part of its training just like sit/stay/stock breaking and the earlier these skills are learn't the better. Not many dogs around that are like Lyacon Pictus, it's more like a hyena. I think you'd be closer with a coyote to compare to. It is a lot better comparison than a fox though don't you think Quote Link to post
Guest crobinc840 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 A bit but still coyotes start very young too I just wouldn't want my little pup to get hurt myself but to each their own. Quote Link to post
danw 1,748 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 A bit but still coyotes start very young too I just wouldn't want my little pup to get hurt myself but to each their own. I guess wolf pups are the closest relation being part of the Canis family they start following the pack on hunts at around 12 weeks and begin hunting with the pack at between 7 and 8 months Quote Link to post
Guest crobinc840 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 A bit but still coyotes start very young too I just wouldn't want my little pup to get hurt myself but to each their own. I guess wolf pups are the closest relation being part of the Canis family they start following the pack on hunts at around 12 weeks and begin hunting with the pack at between 7 and 8 months You're right dogs and coyotes are decendants of the wolf so that would be the closest wolf pup info Quote Link to post
lofti 579 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 im gutted.the conditions are perfect for a night on the lamp where i am and all i have is a 3 month old pup. so i took her out for a walk and took the lamp with me so i could have a look around and get the pup used to the beam etc and f##k me theres rabbits every where. would i be in the wrong by letting her off the lead to have a snout about and see if she would run one? she pulls on the lead when she sees them. im so tempted BUT unsure if i should or not, what would you advise? my advice is... if you run your puppy now mate there is a VERY good chance you will ruin it for ever. what is the rush? your pup needs to grow first,i would be concentrating on basic training at this age . time gose very quick,next season will be here before you know it. if you do it right now you will reap the rewards later. 1 Quote Link to post
martnmagik 68 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 im gutted.the conditions are perfect for a night on the lamp where i am and all i have is a 3 month old pup. so i took her out for a walk and took the lamp with me so i could have a look around and get the pup used to the beam etc and f##k me theres rabbits every where. would i be in the wrong by letting her off the lead to have a snout about and see if she would run one? she pulls on the lead when she sees them. im so tempted BUT unsure if i should or not, what would you advise? my advice is... if you run your puppy now mate there is a VERY good chance you will ruin it for ever. what is the rush? your pup needs to grow first,i would be concentrating on basic training at this age . time gose very quick,next season will be here before you know it. if you do it right now you will reap the rewards later. Quote Link to post
gizmo88 1 Posted December 11, 2010 Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If they were in the wild they'd hunt from pups and I know for a fact a wild dog is a better hunter then a domestic one taking them young is a part of getting them deeper in touch with there instincts plus yes they take little knocks when young but learn to respect there ground there running on, better then a adult dog running flat out into things or not repecting there speed then that's when serious injures happen. like mine to learn when not as much harm can come to them. what do sleep like at night when the wind is blowing. Confused mate Quote Link to post
martnmagik 68 Posted December 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2010 If they were in the wild they'd hunt from pups and I know for a fact a wild dog is a better hunter then a domestic one taking them young is a part of getting them deeper in touch with there instincts plus yes they take little knocks when young but learn to respect there ground there running on, better then a adult dog running flat out into things or not repecting there speed then that's when serious injures happen. like mine to learn when not as much harm can come to them. what do sleep like at night when the wind is blowing. Confused mate me to mate i only asked what age should i let my pup have a run Quote Link to post
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