rabbit mad 10 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 99% of lurchers should be able catch rabbits naturally but the rest has to be tort.if your dog is shit its down to the owner. a bad worker blames there tolls. Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 99% of lurchers should be able catch rabbits naturally but the rest has to be tort.if your dog is shit its down to the owner. a bad worker blames there tolls. lurchers sold on cant all be that shit can they? Quote Link to post
rabbit mad 10 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 its the owners at fault you can tech a dog to do what you wont if you put the time in. people cant admit that they failed .a dog is as good as you train it you don't need to train a lurcher to chase they will chase any thing that moves.as long as you have got that the rest is extra. people rush and don't put the time in. Quote Link to post
torchey 1,328 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 had a few over the years that never came good on taking charlie pre-ban even had one recently that failed to retrieve one after it was shot so the example was clear she just never had it in her. so when it comes to a lamping dog for the bunnies whats your definition of this,i mean over the years iv never had a dog that hasnt made the grade when it comes to rabbiting,ok some have been excellent compared to others iv had but still may be of a low standard to whats out there i dont know havnt seen enough to make that judgement but they have still done what iv asked of them,but what constitutes a dog not making the grade for you then? id just like to know the reasons why,i mean unless it refuses to chase something point blank for what ever reason then surely the blame lies with the owner,or does it? Your lucky to get a dog thats got the full package to a real good grade in my opinion..i do more lamping than ferreting so for me a f*****g good catch rate is a must ,retrieving is the icing on the cake.. Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 aslong as i think my dog is trying then it dont bother me if it dont catch . . . . asthesaying goes god loves a tryer . . . . Ehhhh Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 its the owners at fault you can tech a dog to do what you wont if you put the time in. people cant admit that they failed .a dog is as good as you train it you don't need to train a lurcher to chase they will chase any thing that moves.as long as you have got that the rest is extra. people rush and don't put the time in. Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 had a few over the years that never came good on taking charlie pre-ban even had one recently that failed to retrieve one after it was shot so the example was clear she just never had it in her. so when it comes to a lamping dog for the bunnies whats your definition of this,i mean over the years iv never had a dog that hasnt made the grade when it comes to rabbiting,ok some have been excellent compared to others iv had but still may be of a low standard to whats out there i dont know havnt seen enough to make that judgement but they have still done what iv asked of them,but what constitutes a dog not making the grade for you then? id just like to know the reasons why,i mean unless it refuses to chase something point blank for what ever reason then surely the blame lies with the owner,or does it? Your lucky to get a dog thats got the full package to a real good grade in my opinion..i do more lamping than ferreting so for me a f*****g good catch rate is a must ,retrieving is the icing on the cake.. although some dogs will naturaly retrieve most are taught i would think,if you dont teach it its hardly the same as not making the grade is it?jmo Quote Link to post
border lad 1,047 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 mine have gotta catch, an catch lots move to Cornwall, there is plenty there, or Maybe you are already there! Quote Link to post
Romany 1,065 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 But arnt they easy rabbits in Cornwall? Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 But arnt they easy rabbits in Cornwall? dog should make the grade then lol Quote Link to post
ASME IX 1 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 But arnt they easy rabbits in Cornwall? asme 9 Quote Link to post
tote 856 Posted December 7, 2010 Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 99% of lurchers should be able catch rabbits naturally but the rest has to be tort.if your dog is shit its down to the owner. a bad worker blames there tolls. Don't agree with you mate, what happens if you have a dog with "no mouth"? What I mean is it will chase, has plenty of speed to get up to it's quarry then sits behind it making no effort to pick it up. I had one like that recently, she seen plenty both daytime and on the lamp and the only time she caught was when a rabbit etc made a mistake and ran into a fence or suchlike. Now this bitch chased hundreds of rabbits yet she only caught 30 odd, the last time I took her lamping my son came with me and I can remember him asking me why the bitch wasn't making any attempt at mouthing/striking the rabbits. What was the answer? For me the bitch didn't have what I required a good catch ratio, that night she ran 29 rabbits and caught 4, one was a squatter and the other three ran into a rabbit proof fence. Not one rabbit was caught out in the open on the run, infact it actually looked like she was herding the rabbit she was running, she'd turn it numerous times but never struck once. Don't know what more I could've done, she had plenty of game put infront of her and was given the oppertunity but for me [and plenty like me I'd imagine] she didn't make the grade. Quote Link to post
watchman 256 Posted December 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2010 99% of lurchers should be able catch rabbits naturally but the rest has to be tort.if your dog is shit its down to the owner. a bad worker blames there tolls. Don't agree with you mate, what happens if you have a dog with "no mouth"? What I mean is it will chase, has plenty of speed to get up to it's quarry then sits behind it making no effort to pick it up. I had one like that recently, she seen plenty both daytime and on the lamp and the only time she caught was when a rabbit etc made a mistake and ran into a fence or suchlike. Now this bitch chased hundreds of rabbits yet she only caught 30 odd, the last time I took her lamping my son came with me and I can remember him asking me why the bitch wasn't making any attempt at mouthing/striking the rabbits. What was the answer? For me the bitch didn't have what I required a good catch ratio, that night she ran 29 rabbits and caught 4, one was a squatter and the other three ran into a rabbit proof fence. Not one rabbit was caught out in the open on the run, infact it actually looked like she was herding the rabbit she was running, she'd turn it numerous times but never struck once. Don't know what more I could've done, she had plenty of game put infront of her and was given the oppertunity but for me [and plenty like me I'd imagine] she didn't make the grade. fair point,how old was the bitch? Quote Link to post
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