millsy44 72 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 not the varnish, just the first coat of colour, could i use turps to get it off if i still dont like it when its dry? or is turps an nono for gun stocks? Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 not the varnish, just the first coat of colour, could i use turps to get it off if i still dont like it when its dry? or is turps an nono for gun stocks? i refinished a few stocks recently and when i thought i stained one of them too dark some light sanding with fine sandpaper took it all off easily. i finished my stocks with tru oil and when i wanted to see what shade it would look like before the tru oil went on if you put a small thin smear of saliva on your stock you can see what the colour will change when the tru oil goes on and it was a strange tip i was told that was surprisingly accurate Quote Link to post
Sweeney-Todd 208 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 not the varnish, just the first coat of colour, could i use turps to get it off if i still dont like it when its dry? or is turps an nono for gun stocks? Hi Millsey. Turps no good mate, because your stain is water based. Easier to sand it off again. Use a good couse glass paper, then go down the grades untill your happy, sand with the grain where possible. You could try a bit of varish on it first though, just a small area, it will go darker when varnished, if your still not happy, sand it back. Bill. Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 So did you use any stain at all tom?? or just tru oil?? Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 ive got some aluminuim oxide fine 180g, sand paper bill, any good? Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 So did you use any stain at all tom?? or just tru oil?? i used birchwood casey walnut gun stock stain on 2 and whikses own brand mahogany stain on the other 2. when i stained them i left them for 24 hours before i did anything else with them as the stain dried back lighter. when the tru oil went on it changed colour completely, it went darker. and because the stocks where really dry the tru oil soaked in surprisingly well (all where beech stocks) I'm no expert but its just things i noticed as i did them all recently. they came up suprisingly well like this. Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 i just got deep russet wood stain from a d.i.y shop, and outdoor clear gloss varnish aswell, should i just bin them, sand the first coat back off the stock and order sonme proper gun stock stain? Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 i just got deep russet wood stain from a d.i.y shop, and outdoor clear gloss varnish aswell, should i just bin them, sand the first coat back off the stock and order sonme proper gun stock stain? the whikses mahogany was from a diy shop (whikses) and imho i thought looked better than the birchwood casey walnut gun stock stain. i will use it again if i do another stock. i think it was the tru oil that made them look well. Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Did you fine sand after each coat of stain tom?? maybe i just picked the wrong colour, looks nothing like it does on the tin colour reference, looks orangey lol Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Did you fine sand after each coat of stain tom?? maybe i just picked the wrong colour, looks nothing like it does on the tin colour reference, looks orangey lol its a scary thing to do at first isn't it i very lightly sanded between fine layers of fully dried tru oil (i left mine 24 hours) with very fine glass paper. i think i did about 6 layers it seemed to fill the tiny pores like this so looked smoother and had like a glassy feel to it after first couple of layers. i hung the stock in the shower cubicle while it dried (drove the girlfriend mad ) because the first one had some fine hairs and dust land on it and it was safer in there with no dust at all. the last layer no sanding at all and they dried glossy. Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 Did you fine sand after each coat of stain tom?? maybe i just picked the wrong colour, looks nothing like it does on the tin colour reference, looks orangey lol i didnt do any sanding after the stain, and only one layer of stain was ok as the tru oil made it darker anyway Quote Link to post
millsy44 72 Posted December 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 (edited) It is scary yeah lol im regrettin messing with it now!! lol so how many coats of stain did you use before you put the tru oil on?? and did u also sand inbetween the stain coats aswell as the tru oil finishing coats? sorry to keep goin on, just dont want to destroy the stock lol OOOPS I diddnt see your second reply there mate, thanks for putting up with my questions matey, youve been a good help, cheers to bill aswell, top blokes Edited December 6, 2010 by millsy44 Quote Link to post
tomburras 2,730 Posted December 6, 2010 Report Share Posted December 6, 2010 It is scary yeah lol im regrettin messing with it now!! lol so how many coats of stain did you use before you put the tru oil on?? and did u also sand inbetween the stain coats aswell as the tru oil finishing coats? sorry to keep goin on, just dont want to destroy the stock lol OOOPS I diddnt see your second reply there mate, thanks for putting up with my questions matey, youve been a good help, cheers to bill aswell, top blokes good luck with your project matey Quote Link to post
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