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We get told to shoot them if possible to stop dickheads driving across fields, through fences, gates, crops and hedges to chase the hares in 4x4's. I thought the dog was supposed to chase the hare, not the jeep.

That's what happened at altcar when the ban was brought in (to stop illegal coursing lamping etc) used to see loads there when they were keepered hardly see any now :(

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Shooters everytime. A gun doesn't know the difference between a strong or weak hare... a dog does. How many shooters do you know that aren't in it for the numbers?

yes lamping has defo played its part and as you say some dogs that take hare's on the lamp couldent take the same number of daytime hares if any,

buzzards wont have a great deal to do with it mate they wont even take a leveret the only BOP that could bother hares in uk is the goshawk and golden eagle and even then not enough to hit numbers in

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We get told to shoot them if possible to stop dickheads driving across fields, through fences, gates, crops and hedges to chase the hares in 4x4's. I thought the dog was supposed to chase the hare, not the jeep.

That's what happened at altcar when the ban was brought in (to stop illegal coursing lamping etc) used to see loads there when they were keepered hardly see any now :(

 

Aye, shame.............

 

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We get told to shoot them if possible to stop dickheads driving across fields, through fences, gates, crops and hedges to chase the hares in 4x4's. I thought the dog was supposed to chase the hare, not the jeep.

That's what happened at altcar when the ban was brought in (to stop illegal coursing lamping etc) used to see loads there when they were keepered hardly see any now :(

 

The landowners on our patch wouldn't notice a couple of sets of bootprints and a couple of sets of pawprints left discreetly about the place. But no some f*****g dickheads have to wreck the place, show no respect or bit of courtesy and f**k things up for everyone. :wallbash: :wallbash: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

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We get told to shoot them if possible to stop dickheads driving across fields, through fences, gates, crops and hedges to chase the hares in 4x4's. I thought the dog was supposed to chase the hare, not the jeep.

That's what happened at altcar when the ban was brought in (to stop illegal coursing lamping etc) used to see loads there when they were keepered hardly see any now :(

 

The landowners on our patch wouldn't notice a couple of sets of bootprints and a couple of sets of pawprints left discreetly about the place. But no some f*****g dickheads have to wreck the place, show no respect or bit of courtesy and f**k things up for everyone. :wallbash: :wallbash: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

scaffolding board with 4"nails through it on the field side of the gateway covered with leaves...very hard to see at night in a jeep :whistling:

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We get told to shoot them if possible to stop dickheads driving across fields, through fences, gates, crops and hedges to chase the hares in 4x4's. I thought the dog was supposed to chase the hare, not the jeep.

That's what happened at altcar when the ban was brought in (to stop illegal coursing lamping etc) used to see loads there when they were keepered hardly see any now :(

 

The landowners on our patch wouldn't notice a couple of sets of bootprints and a couple of sets of pawprints left discreetly about the place. But no some f*****g dickheads have to wreck the place, show no respect or bit of courtesy and f**k things up for everyone. :wallbash: :wallbash: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

scaffolding board with 4"nails through it on the field side of the gateway covered with leaves...very hard to see at night in a jeep :whistling:

 

Aye, f*****g deer will love that!!! :icon_eek:

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We get told to shoot them if possible to stop dickheads driving across fields, through fences, gates, crops and hedges to chase the hares in 4x4's. I thought the dog was supposed to chase the hare, not the jeep.

That's what happened at altcar when the ban was brought in (to stop illegal coursing lamping etc) used to see loads there when they were keepered hardly see any now :(

 

The landowners on our patch wouldn't notice a couple of sets of bootprints and a couple of sets of pawprints left discreetly about the place. But no some f*****g dickheads have to wreck the place, show no respect or bit of courtesy and f**k things up for everyone. :wallbash: :wallbash: :thumbdown: :thumbdown:

scaffolding board with 4"nails through it on the field side of the gateway covered with leaves...very hard to see at night in a jeep :whistling:

 

Aye, f*****g deer will love that!!! :icon_eek:

Put the nails under the bottom rung of the gate then so nothing can land/walk on it...it's not rocket science :o

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As do high numbers of Badgers. :thumbs:

 

in what way does the badger affect hare numbers hannah??

 

They eat leverets......

 

and stoats,polecat,weasel,fox,hawks etc dont,nor would a dramatic drop in temperature and wet weather wipe a few out..

 

I wasn't discussing the other species and didn't say they did or didn't, the question was asked do badgers affect hare numbers.........

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As do high numbers of Badgers. :thumbs:

 

in what way does the badger affect hare numbers hannah??

 

They eat leverets......

 

I'd be surprised if a badger makes a big difference to be honest. If it caught one in its lifetime it will probably down to luck..... bit like most of the dogs on here lol.

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what would you blame for the decline in hares theres land devoid of hares that once held decent numbers.i think the increase in buzzards and other birds of prey has played a significant part 20 years ago you never seen a buzzard now there as common as dog shit.lamping has also played its part as theres dogs taking hare on the lamp that would struggle daytime.

buzzards wont have a great deal to do with it mate they wont even take a leveret :thumbs: the only BOP that could bother hares in uk is the goshawk and golden eagle and even then not enough to hit numbers in any area :thumbs: be dickheads shooting them thats your problem :thumbs:

 

that is total sh!te "wont even take a leveret" you need to get out the house a bit more, its stupid made up facts like that, that is setting back laws to control of these feckin things. as a grouse keeper who is out on the hill everyday i can tell you 100% they will take leverts, adult white hare, grouse, lapwings, curluws as well as anything else that moves and i'v seen this not just read about it on the RSPB web page.

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what would you blame for the decline in hares theres land devoid of hares that once held decent numbers.i think the increase in buzzards and other birds of prey has played a significant part 20 years ago you never seen a buzzard now there as common as dog shit.lamping has also played its part as theres dogs taking hare on the lamp that would struggle daytime.

buzzards wont have a great deal to do with it mate they wont even take a leveret :thumbs: the only BOP that could bother hares in uk is the goshawk and golden eagle and even then not enough to hit numbers in any area :thumbs: be dickheads shooting them thats your problem :thumbs:

 

that is total sh!te "wont even take a leveret" you need to get out the house a bit more, its stupid made up facts like that, that is setting back laws to control of these feckin things. as a grouse keeper who is out on the hill everyday i can tell you 100% they will take leverts, adult white hare, grouse, lapwings, curluws as well as anything else that moves and i'v seen this not just read about it on the RSPB web page.

 

And as a grouse keeper you wont have an agenda right.......

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what would you blame for the decline in hares theres land devoid of hares that once held decent numbers.i think the increase in buzzards and other birds of prey has played a significant part 20 years ago you never seen a buzzard now there as common as dog shit.lamping has also played its part as theres dogs taking hare on the lamp that would struggle daytime.

buzzards wont have a great deal to do with it mate they wont even take a leveret :thumbs: the only BOP that could bother hares in uk is the goshawk and golden eagle and even then not enough to hit numbers in any area :thumbs: be dickheads shooting them thats your problem :thumbs:

 

that is total sh!te "wont even take a leveret" you need to get out the house a bit more, its stupid made up facts like that, that is setting back laws to control of these feckin things. as a grouse keeper who is out on the hill everyday i can tell you 100% they will take leverts, adult white hare, grouse, lapwings, curluws as well as anything else that moves and i'v seen this not just read about it on the RSPB web page.

 

And as a grouse keeper you wont have an agenda right.......

:yes:

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what would you blame for the decline in hares theres land devoid of hares that once held decent numbers.i think the increase in buzzards and other birds of prey has played a significant part 20 years ago you never seen a buzzard now there as common as dog shit.lamping has also played its part as theres dogs taking hare on the lamp that would struggle daytime.

buzzards wont have a great deal to do with it mate they wont even take a leveret :thumbs: the only BOP that could bother hares in uk is the goshawk and golden eagle and even then not enough to hit numbers in any area :thumbs: be dickheads shooting them thats your problem :thumbs:

 

that is total sh!te "wont even take a leveret" you need to get out the house a bit more, its stupid made up facts like that, that is setting back laws to control of these feckin things. as a grouse keeper who is out on the hill everyday i can tell you 100% they will take leverts, adult white hare, grouse, lapwings, curluws as well as anything else that moves and i'v seen this not just read about it on the RSPB web page.

dont care what you say mate,if they do take them it would be in really small numbers..fact :kiss:
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