DeanD 3 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I was going to make add a reply to the thread about the Smithy dog in how it was bred when suddenly it disappeared. The last post was made by Ohiolongarm today. The last I had looked at it was yesterday and my reply was going to be this; in the thread there were no less than three different accounts of how the dog was bred... 1.) Per KG reported in FMWTC magazine(?): breeding unknown. 2.) The pedigree stated by Ohiolongarm. 3.) The pedigree stated by Christian71. Is there any wonder its a mystery? I think the problem lies with todays terriermen, not KG or other older terriermen. jmo... Quote Link to post
wilko tango 50 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 I was going to make add a reply to the thread about the Smithy dog in how it was bred when suddenly it disappeared. The last post was made by Ohiolongarm today. The last I had looked at it was yesterday and my reply was going to be this; in the thread there were no less than three different accounts of how the dog was bred... 1.) Per KG reported in FMWTC magazine(?): breeding unknown. 2.) The pedigree stated by Ohiolongarm. 3.) The pedigree stated by Christian71. Is there any wonder its a mystery? I think the problem lies with todays terriermen, not KG or other older terriermen. jmo... i think christian 71 has it on the button. as for a problem i dont think there is any with todays terriermen. i think most of the good terriermen today have learned from the older ones and they know how to keep there strains right. its very hard to get terriers from good stock these days and thats down to the lads with the good ones not selling pups but spreading them out to there mates and thats the way things should be kept. i also find it very hard to believe theres dogs about today that have smithy blood in them for the fact that smithy was born almost 40 years ago. now i know some lads like to keep there lines tight when there breeding but if line breed that long you are sure to lose the strain due to deformities caused by breeding to close. and to keep the dogs wright how many times would you need to out cross in 40 years just imo i think the blood from smithy is well diluted from any strain. 1 Quote Link to post
DeanD 3 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) i also find it very hard to believe theres dogs about today that have smithy blood in them for the fact that smithy was born almost 40 years ago. now i know some lads like to keep there lines tight when there breeding but if line breed that long you are sure to lose the strain due to deformities caused by breeding to close. and to keep the dogs wright how many times would you need to out cross in 40 years just imo i think the blood from smithy is well diluted from any strain. Interesting indeed, dogs having perhaps 1/64th Smithy blood being touted. Once its past 1/8th or 1/16th its gone for all practicality I would suppose. Actually, I would hazard a guess that once the percentage or fraction is past 1/2 that its damn near impossible to increase the amount of a given dog's blood or even maintain it unless you're breeding brother to sister constantly... any further out and its only going to be diluted albeit gradually depending on the breeding program. But for most people it would be all but gone at that point. jmo... Edited December 2, 2010 by DeanD Quote Link to post
the_stig 6,614 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 like any decent terrier thread - gets deleted - the jack boi thread where the lad got a load of shit just ran and ran the baily thread where a young gal got shit ran and ran like wise with the lampin comp threads .. lets get back to the what we had for tea posts ..... 1 Quote Link to post
Guest eastmids Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 agree ,its the only section i log in for,might as well do away with it,dogs in the thread had no bearing on what i keep but i enjoyed reading it. Quote Link to post
wag 13 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 like any decent terrier thread - gets deleted - the jack boi thread where the lad got a load of shit just ran and ran the baily thread where a young gal got shit ran and ran like wise with the lampin comp threads .. lets get back to the what we had for tea posts ..... it was me who pulled it , i cleaned it up 3 times , when i first posted it , i asked to keep it just to ken and his stuff and no slagging off on it , it went well for a bit then it went the same way as any decent thread goes tits up ...when you get some lads going of topic and it turns into a slagging match ,if people could stop bitching and f*****g things up then alot more decent threads would stay but it never seems to happen .. there was some decent terrier lads who knew there stuff about gouldys stuff also smithy and was having there say about it , then things got heated and it went tits up , i had a couple of pms saying that the thread was being f****d when the bitching started, i took it off and cleaned it up, then it went well for a bit again then again it went tits up again ... so thats the reason it was pulled so dont blame us mods for spoiling threads try and get it across to the divs that spoil the threads thats why the decent lads are not posting anymore .... i will have a look to see if i can put the thread back up , but it will be up o you lot to keep it going by not turning it into a playground fall out ... Quote Link to post
Simoman 110 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 wag is correct, nothing wrong with healthy debate but most threads turn into bitch fests. The breeding of Smithy has been well documented, its been published in EDRD and also Didriksons book country mischeif........... Quote Link to post
DeanD 3 Posted December 2, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 (edited) I saw very little slagging about anyone going on in the thread... no more than many other threads I've read. Terriermen are a tough lot, thats all there is to it so you've got to expect a little shite. Cripes a friend told me that GM was as scrappy as his dogs were and I have no reason to doubt him as he hunted with GM before he (my friend) moved to this side of the pond in the late 70's. Reportedly KG himself was going to have a look at it, see the similar thread in the General forum. Edited December 2, 2010 by DeanD Quote Link to post
ohiolongarm 2 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 like any decent terrier thread - gets deleted - the jack boi thread where the lad got a load of shit just ran and ran the baily thread where a young gal got shit ran and ran like wise with the lampin comp threads .. lets get back to the what we had for tea posts ..... it was me who pulled it , i cleaned it up 3 times , when i first posted it , i asked to keep it just to ken and his stuff and no slagging off on it , it went well for a bit then it went the same way as any decent thread goes tits up ...when you get some lads going of topic and it turns into a slagging match ,if people could stop bitching and f*****g things up then alot more decent threads would stay but it never seems to happen .. there was some decent terrier lads who knew there stuff about gouldys stuff also smithy and was having there say about it , then things got heated and it went tits up , i had a couple of pms saying that the thread was being f****d when the bitching started, i took it off and cleaned it up, then it went well for a bit again then again it went tits up again ... so thats the reason it was pulled so dont blame us mods for spoiling threads try and get it across to the divs that spoil the threads thats why the decent lads are not posting anymore .... i will have a look to see if i can put the thread back up , but it will be up o you lot to keep it going by not turning it into a playground fall out ... WWag,it went to crap because some won't deal with the truth about how the dog was bbred. I ABSOLUTELY have nothing against KG I like the man and like what he's ssent me over the years,and he NEVER misrepresented a dog. Today we still have the spartacus and Scratch stuff along with others. The thread went to crap because some clowns don't know the truth and are pissed cuz I do.The Working terrier year book volume 6 published 1988 corroborates my story in it's entirety.I been in this 34 years and little escapes me,I've hunted in England,Ireland,Scotland and wales as well as The lakes district of UK,with some of the worlds greatest terriermen. Because I have knowledge doesn't make me a troublemaker. OHIOLONGARM seeks and finds the truth.PS to the clown who says I plagiarized him. Reading and knowing and sharing is not plagiarism. Quote Link to post
Guest tuggy Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 like any decent terrier thread - gets deleted - the jack boi thread where the lad got a load of shit just ran and ran the baily thread where a young gal got shit ran and ran like wise with the lampin comp threads .. lets get back to the what we had for tea posts ..... it was me who pulled it , i cleaned it up 3 times , when i first posted it , i asked to keep it just to ken and his stuff and no slagging off on it , it went well for a bit then it went the same way as any decent thread goes tits up ...when you get some lads going of topic and it turns into a slagging match ,if people could stop bitching and f*****g things up then alot more decent threads would stay but it never seems to happen .. there was some decent terrier lads who knew there stuff about gouldys stuff also smithy and was having there say about it , then things got heated and it went tits up , i had a couple of pms saying that the thread was being f****d when the bitching started, i took it off and cleaned it up, then it went well for a bit again then again it went tits up again ... so thats the reason it was pulled so dont blame us mods for spoiling threads try and get it across to the divs that spoil the threads thats why the decent lads are not posting anymore .... i will have a look to see if i can put the thread back up , but it will be up o you lot to keep it going by not turning it into a playground fall out ... WWag,it went to crap because some won't deal with the truth about how the dog was bbred. I ABSOLUTELY have nothing against KG I like the man and like what he's ssent me over the years,and he NEVER misrepresented a dog. Today we still have the spartacus and Scratch stuff along with others. The thread went to crap because some clowns don't know the truth and are pissed cuz I do.The Working terrier year book volume 6 published 1988 corroborates my story in it's entirety.I been in this 34 years and little escapes me,I've hunted in England,Ireland,Scotland and wales as well as The lakes district of UK,with some of the worlds greatest terriermen. Because I have knowledge doesn't make me a troublemaker. OHIOLONGARM seeks and finds the truth.PS to the clown who says I plagiarized him. Reading and knowing and sharing is not plagiarism. nothing like some frendly fire Quote Link to post
Stabs 3 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 Tune in tomorrow and I will be revealing just who shot JR Quote Link to post
gonetoearth 5,144 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 like any decent terrier thread - gets deleted - the jack boi thread where the lad got a load of shit just ran and ran the baily thread where a young gal got shit ran and ran like wise with the lampin comp threads .. lets get back to the what we had for tea posts ..... it was me who pulled it , i cleaned it up 3 times , when i first posted it , i asked to keep it just to ken and his stuff and no slagging off on it , it went well for a bit then it went the same way as any decent thread goes tits up ...when you get some lads going of topic and it turns into a slagging match ,if people could stop bitching and f*****g things up then alot more decent threads would stay but it never seems to happen .. there was some decent terrier lads who knew there stuff about gouldys stuff also smithy and was having there say about it , then things got heated and it went tits up , i had a couple of pms saying that the thread was being f****d when the bitching started, i took it off and cleaned it up, then it went well for a bit again then again it went tits up again ... so thats the reason it was pulled so dont blame us mods for spoiling threads try and get it across to the divs that spoil the threads thats why the decent lads are not posting anymore .... i will have a look to see if i can put the thread back up , but it will be up o you lot to keep it going by not turning it into a playground fall out ... WWag,it went to crap because some won't deal with the truth about how the dog was bbred. I ABSOLUTELY have nothing against KG I like the man and like what he's ssent me over the years,and he NEVER misrepresented a dog. Today we still have the spartacus and Scratch stuff along with others. The thread went to crap because some clowns don't know the truth and are pissed cuz I do.The Working terrier year book volume 6 published 1988 corroborates my story in it's entirety.I been in this 34 years and little escapes me,I've hunted in England,Ireland,Scotland and wales as well as The lakes district of UK,with some of the worlds greatest terriermen. Because I have knowledge doesn't make me a troublemaker. OHIOLONGARM seeks and finds the truth.PS to the clown who says I plagiarized him. Reading and knowing and sharing is not plagiarism. oh wise one pray tell what other secrets of the forgotten past do you know and could pass on to us poor phesants over the pond Quote Link to post
Guest tuggy Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 TONY SOPRANOLONGPANTS WHO TOOK MADDY????? WHERE IS BIN LADEN?????? WHO KILLED BAMBI???? PM IF NEED BE Quote Link to post
DeanD 3 Posted December 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2010 And that is what keeps me coming back! Thats some funny shizizzle I don't care who you are. Quote Link to post
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