EXTINCT BREEDS ?

[bullylurcher 11]

DOG'S FROM THE PAST !!!!! doe's anyone know or have picture's of these breeds ? ENGLISH WHITE TERRIER , OLD ENGLISH BULLDOG , SCOTTISH BULLDOG??? BLUE PAUL TERRIER....... ALSO CORDOBA FIGHTING DOG!!!!! OR WHAT IS THE CLOEST BREED TO THEM NOWADAY'S..... i seen a picture of a EBT about 100 year's ago ... look's totally different than today's EBT'S !!! some breed's have been ruined .eg the american bull terrier etc . " just my opinion " but will be nice to hear more info on breeds of day's gone and picture's !!!!!!!

 

 

[Parabuteos lad 878]

i to would be interested in some pics and info

[tinytiger 840]

id say the dogo argentino is the closest to the cordoba fighting dog.Id say theres lots of local types that existed once here or there that went extinct or were absorbed into other breeds

[bullylurcher 11]

CHEER'S LAD'S !!!!!!

[bullylurcher 11]

do anyone know any good websites for this TOPIC .... cheer's !!!!!

[parrots2 54]

1 english white terrier 2 blue paul 3 old bull 4 cordoba

[DeanD 3]

1 english white terrier 2 blue paul 3 old bull 4 cordoba

 

Those all look like dogs known by other names today, jmo.

 

In regards to the OP's post... American Bull Terrier? Really? I've never heard of such a thing. Or are you meaning the American Pitbull Terrier has become a lesser dog?

 

Lookup imgages in google search for a "Turnspit"... looks like a long haired Dachsund of today also. jmo...

[hogdog 61]

The Blue Paul was more like a regional variant of the Bull and Terriers of the time rather than a distinct breed and there were various colours, not all of them were blue as the name suggests.

 

The Bullenbeisser is an interesting breed although the Boxer is a very similar Dog and may have taken alot of it's genes from it.

 

BTW, technically speaking a breed cannot become 'extinct', only species become extinct. The genes still exist and the breed can be re-established if the knowledge and will is there, the same can't be said of species.

[DeanD 3]

 

BTW, technically speaking a breed cannot become 'extinct', only species become extinct. The genes still exist and the breed can be re-established if the knowledge and will is there, the same can't be said of species.

 

Good to know, but most would never spend the time and energy to recreate a breed... those that have were scoffed at as being tossers. D.B. Plummer worked on a few breeds, can't say he was spot on or not since I never saw one of the originals. But several people sure made sport of him for trying.

[hogdog 61]

Good to know, but most would never spend the time and energy to recreate a breed... those that have were scoffed at as being tossers. D.B. Plummer worked on a few breeds, can't say he was spot on or not since I never saw one of the originals. But several people sure made sport of him for trying.

 

Very true, it's a real shame. No wonder people keep so quiet about the work they do trying to re-establish breeds. The Alaunt is one that various people have done alot of good work on and rightly so, they're stunning Dogs.

[uru 341]

(A friend sent this to me,I thought it was interesting)

 

JUST A LITTLE HISTORY ON THE BLUES

The blue colour in Staffords Is very much misunderstood. The gene carrying the blue colour is a simple recessive gene that affects the coat colour and nothing more. The actual quality of a litter is dependent on the quality of the parents but both must carry blue to produce blue puppies.

 

In the past, Staffordshire were generally red, white pied or Brindle in colour although an occasional blue one turned up. These are believed to have originated with the Blue Paul. The Blue Paul’s were of an all blue colour but they sometimes produced Brindle or reds which were known as red smuts in Scotland. No one seemed to have full knowledge as to how the Blue Paul’s were bred or from where they originally came. There was a story that Paul Jones, the pirate, brought them from aboard and landed some when he visited his native town of Kirkcudbright about 1770. The gypsies around the Kin Tilloch district kept a lot of Blue Pauls which they fought for their own amusement. They maintained that the breed originally came from the Galloway coast which lends colour to the Paul Jones legend.

 

From all writings on this now extinct variety of bull terrier, all seemed to be agreed that they were a highly intelligent breed of dog in spite of the somewhat cruel sport they were used in. They were affectionate and tractable, obedient to a fault when engaged in their work, mute even under the most trying circumstances. They were game to the death and could suffer much punishment. They were expert and tricky in their fighting tactics which made them great favorites with those who indulged in this sport.

 

The general appearance of the Blue Paul is that of a smooth coated, powerfully built dog weighing about 20kg and measuring up to 50cm at the shoulder. Head-large, forehead flat, muscle short and square, large and broad but not receding like that of the bulldog. Jaws and teeth even with no over changing flews, slight dip between the eyes which should be dark hazel and neither sunk nor prominent or showing haw. Ears-small, thin, set on high, invariably cropped. The face not wrinkled.

 

The eyebrows contracted or knit and when the dog lowered one side of his face when at attention, this gave the dog a peculiarly intelligent look. In fact there was an expression in the face of the Blue Paul that has never been seen in any other breed and one can frequently recognize his blood in cross breeds from this peculiarity. Body-round and well ribbed up, back short broad and muscular but not roached; chest very deep and wide; tail set low and devoid of fringe, rather drooping and never rising above the back. The dog stands straight and firmly on its legs, forelegs stout and muscular, showing no curve. Hind legs very thick, strong and well furnished with muscle. Colour was the dark blue we see in greyhounds. With his excellent fighting skills, the Blue Paul was introduced as part of Stafford breeding in the early 19th century and the blue coloring has appeared in

 

Staffords ever since. The genetics of the blue Stafford are the same as for the Great Dane and Greyhound. The colour appears as solid blue, blue Brindle or blue fawn which is the same as a black masked fawn except the mask is blue instead of black. If you want blue, there are some very important aspects to consider in a breeding program. The selection of the dogs for mating has to be correct. As well as quality of conformation, the colouring also needs to be considered. As in any breeding, including Brindle to Brindle, an incorrect selection of parents may result in pups with weak pigment and light eyes. As the eye colour of blues is affected by the dilution gene, the parents eyes should be as dark as possible. Always include a well pigmented black dog in your breeding program to keep dilution to a minimum. This will also assist in the colour of the nose. In a blue Stafford the nose is a diluted black giving a slate appearance which can vary in colour from grey to black. With the correct breeding program and careful selection, it is possible to produce quality blue Staffords with black noses, medium to dark brown eyes and black toenails. Some of the current blues have darker pigment than some of the Brindle and fawns seen in the show ring.

 

The quality of the blue Stafford has improved in the past few years and by using careful selection of quality parents, it will keep on improving. Blue is a colour in the Staffordshire standard but it is the conformation of the dog that matters the most. No one should ever breed for colour alone. Quality always comes first and it should not matter if the animal is red, black, brindle, white, pied or blue. All colors are equal in the standard.

 

Then there was a picture of a Blue Paul that didn't come thru..sorry.

uru

[bullylurcher 11]

1 english white terrier 2 blue paul 3 old bull 4 cordoba

 

Those all look like dogs known by other names today, jmo.

 

In regards to the OP's post... American Bull Terrier? Really? I've never heard of such a thing. Or are you meaning the American Pitbull Terrier has become a lesser dog?

 

Lookup imgages in google search for a "Turnspit"... looks like a long haired Dachsund of today also. jmo...

 

 

american bully !!!!!

[bullylurcher 11]

cheer's for all the info lad's !!!! sorry i ment american bully ? in my opinion too short too fat !! on one site it say's there suitable for apartments , don't need much exercise! that say's it all ..... JMO !!!

[Mat Watson 3]

I was told that the old english white terrier is a decedant of the west highland white, this was before it was imbread and turned into a waste of space lap dog.

[ReggieCuz 18]

Those american bullies are just pitbulls with a lot of Johnson bulldog thrown in the mix. The fuckers couldn't finish a good walk let alone do any work, saddle backed, bow legged dwarfism mutts. It makes me laugh all the twats who think their hard in the states who own them. Yes, they're a powerhouse, but they have a 5 minute lifespan, like a hyundai AA battery from the pound shop.