John Keswick 119 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 yep and they do break they backs to faster and more humane than the real thing. Are we talking micro seconds? cause i have used the original "tube trap" from wcs and they dont get much better for greys or rats for that matter. Are you seriously saying that your home made trap is better? Quote Link to post
logun 91 Posted December 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 yes i think so john.if not better deffo on a par.and cost under a £10 to make to. Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 10 out of 10 for effort, but as 120 says, NOT LEGAL for use in the UK. Any 'spring' trap needs to be approved before use. That is one of the reasons why spring traps cost as much as they do; it is an expensive process getting a trap through the approval system and on the statute book. Quote Link to post
IanB 0 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Looks a cracker.. Hats off for your effort.. Quote Link to post
cumbrianrabbiter 0 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Cracking looking trap and it looks like it will do well but you will need to get it approved before you can use it in the Uk Quote Link to post
salukiwhippet 6 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Is 'breakback trap' defined anywhere? Most kill traps work by damaging the spine, so could be said to be breakbacks, and that looks not dissimilar to a Snap-E type in a bait box in function. Or is the problem that it could conceivably be used against squirrels etc? Not trying to start a row, just curious chaps James 1 Quote Link to post
120-2 8 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 From DEFRA Certain traps adapted solely for the destruction of rats, mice or other small ground vermin are excluded from this general prohibition. The Small Ground Vermin Order 1958 identified two such trap types. These are spring traps known as break-back traps commonly used for rats, mice and other small ground vermin, and spring traps of the kind commonly used for catching moles in their runs. They refer to the little nipper, T-Rex type of trap. Quote Link to post
salukiwhippet 6 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 From DEFRA Certain traps adapted solely for the destruction of rats, mice or other small ground vermin are excluded from this general prohibition. The Small Ground Vermin Order 1958 identified two such trap types. These are spring traps known as break-back traps commonly used for rats, mice and other small ground vermin, and spring traps of the kind commonly used for catching moles in their runs. They refer to the little nipper, T-Rex type of trap. Yeah I found that too, still not very specific. Good old DEFRA! I can't find a definition anywhere. I'd suggest that these tube types are no more different to T-rex/nippers etc than the talpex/talpa (or the dreaded talpirid !) is to the 'kind commonly used for catching moles in their runs' in 1958. James Quote Link to post
DUCKWING 302 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 WELL DONE MATE , IF THEY WORK ... AND WORK WELL ............. I WOULD USE THEM ....... OF COURSE YOU WILL GET THE PEDDLERS SCREAMING DEFRA AT YOU ,.... FECK EM ! IVE LEARNT A LOT ABOUT HUMAN NATURE SINCE COMING ON THE NET , AND ONE THING I FOUND OUT SHARPISH WAS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WILL DECRY ANOTHERS TALENTS OR USE ANOTHERS INGENUITY IF IT MEANS A FEW SHACKELS IN THEIR POCKETS .......... ALL THE BEST DUCKWING 4 Quote Link to post
fieldsportsman 107 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 some home mde tube traps for you.easy to make,little cost and just as good. hi mate do you have a plan on how to make them Quote Link to post
logun 91 Posted December 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 thanks for the replys lads.i here name my trap the logun break back rat trap lol 2 Quote Link to post
logun 91 Posted December 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 yep and they do break they backs to faster and more humane than the real thing. Are we talking micro seconds? cause i have used the original "tube trap" from wcs and they dont get much better for greys or rats for that matter. Are you seriously saying that your home made trap is better? the thing that makes me smile john is i can make a trap for £7 that does a better job than the inported tube trap. its faster stronger and last longer than the imports.. and the pics i put up wa the first ones i made.gone one to a mark 3 version now and better than the tube trap sold here.happy days i think. Quote Link to post
John Keswick 119 Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 yep and they do break they backs to faster and more humane than the real thing. Are we talking micro seconds? cause i have used the original "tube trap" from wcs and they dont get much better for greys or rats for that matter. Are you seriously saying that your home made trap is better? the thing that makes me smile john is i can make a trap for £7 that does a better job than the inported tube trap. its faster stronger and last longer than the imports.. and the pics i put up wa the first ones i made.gone one to a mark 3 version now and better than the tube trap sold here.happy days i think. Good luck with your venture, i was just curious as to how your trap killed faster and more humane than the original one? Makes no odds to me anyway, i dont sell the fuckers Quote Link to post
Steve Albano 21 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 £7 Is that just materials, or does that include a value placed on your own time that was spent planning and manufacturing the traps? It is a great looking trap, have to admit. Good job! Quote Link to post
Matt 160 Posted December 2, 2010 Report Share Posted December 2, 2010 For me, this issue is not about people making money from traps, it's about the law. For anyone to come on here and 'incite' others to break the law by using unapproved traps is out of order. As previously stated; hats off to the original poster for making something, but please bear in mind that anyone can read this forum and encouraging people to ignore the law will not make any legitimate trapper look good. The law is the law, whether we agree with it or not, and responsible trappers work within it. 1 Quote Link to post
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