In your oppinion, the best alround dog

[Lab 10,979]

why do the police/military/border control all use spaniels for explo/money/drugs dogs when any old mongrel would do?? could it be cause spaniels are better than bitzas.

 

Having owned spaniels and lurchers all my working life and round fathers before that, for work every day I take the spaniels and leave the lurchers in kennels why would that be cause no lurcher can ever do what I ask of my spaniels simple as really any one that thinks a lurcher could match them is frankly deluded.

 

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All the services you mention above use collies also as do the likes of mountain rescue, the last time I looked the majority of dogs being used (Scotland) were collies.

You won't get any arguements from me regarding a well bred gundogs capabilities, I'm only saying what I have experienced and I'll also concede the point that the majority (not all) of the lurchers I've seen the equivilant and better than a lot of gundogs have been collie blooded.

i'll sit on the fence here and try and be everyones mate and say that many times over the years I've had a notion to own and work a gundog bred lurcher, nearly happened a few times but it didn't get off the ground. Might happen yet. Feck I'll end up falling out with myself.

 

not sure a spaniel would work but If you could find a racy looking lab might make for an interesting cross 1st x might throw a bit heavy wonder if any one on here runs one?

Line up the greyhound bitches and lets find out................

 

 

 

nice looking dog shame about the mess behind him though :whistling: :laugh:

........Your right though. They say the polish are grafters tae??? Not if you dont crack the whip...............

[Ideation 8,216]

I think where it falls down is that so few have seen decent gun dogs at work.

[paulus 26]

im bored with this lab,danw isnt there something else we can drag out for another 7 pages

[mackay 3,400]

Just out of interest are cross breeds allowed to compete in gundog trials ??.

No.

 

I thought that was the case, pretty much eliminates the chances of a lurcher or any cross for that matter besting a purpose bred gundog.

[mackay 3,400]

why do the police/military/border control all use spaniels for explo/money/drugs dogs when any old mongrel would do?? could it be cause spaniels are better than bitzas.

 

Having owned spaniels and lurchers all my working life and round fathers before that, for work every day I take the spaniels and leave the lurchers in kennels why would that be cause no lurcher can ever do what I ask of my spaniels simple as really any one that thinks a lurcher could match them is frankly deluded.

 

.

All the services you mention above use collies also as do the likes of mountain rescue, the last time I looked the majority of dogs being used (Scotland) were collies.

You won't get any arguements from me regarding a well bred gundogs capabilities, I'm only saying what I have experienced and I'll also concede the point that the majority (not all) of the lurchers I've seen the equivilant and better than a lot of gundogs have been collie blooded.

i'll sit on the fence here and try and be everyones mate and say that many times over the years I've had a notion to own and work a gundog bred lurcher, nearly happened a few times but it didn't get off the ground. Might happen yet. Feck I'll end up falling out with myself.

 

not sure a spaniel would work but If you could find a racy looking lab might make for an interesting cross 1st x might throw a bit heavy wonder if any one on here runs one?

 

A mate of mine bred a litter of springer/greyhounds about twenty years back, they weren't a great shape and although some where handy dogs none were anything outstanding.

I was thinking more along the lines of a racy lab or a golden from good working lines, I had a well bred handy golden dog I considered putting to a greyhound a few years back but the thought of finding homes for surplus pups put me off the idea.

[danw 1,748]

why do the police/military/border control all use spaniels for explo/money/drugs dogs when any old mongrel would do?? could it be cause spaniels are better than bitzas.

 

Having owned spaniels and lurchers all my working life and round fathers before that, for work every day I take the spaniels and leave the lurchers in kennels why would that be cause no lurcher can ever do what I ask of my spaniels simple as really any one that thinks a lurcher could match them is frankly deluded.

 

.

All the services you mention above use collies also as do the likes of mountain rescue, the last time I looked the majority of dogs being used (Scotland) were collies.

You won't get any arguements from me regarding a well bred gundogs capabilities, I'm only saying what I have experienced and I'll also concede the point that the majority (not all) of the lurchers I've seen the equivilant and better than a lot of gundogs have been collie blooded.

i'll sit on the fence here and try and be everyones mate and say that many times over the years I've had a notion to own and work a gundog bred lurcher, nearly happened a few times but it didn't get off the ground. Might happen yet. Feck I'll end up falling out with myself.

 

not sure a spaniel would work but If you could find a racy looking lab might make for an interesting cross 1st x might throw a bit heavy wonder if any one on here runs one?

 

A mate of mine bred a litter of springer/greyhounds about twenty years back, they weren't a great shape and although some where handy dogs none were anything outstanding.

I was thinking more along the lines of a racy lab or a golden from good working lines, I had a well bred handy golden dog I considered putting to a greyhound a few years back but the thought of finding homes for surplus pups put me off the idea.

 

 

If you ever have that thought again I would buy a pup be interested to see how one would come on

[danw 1,748]

im bored with this lab,danw isnt there something else we can drag out for another 7 pages

 

 

ok then which is better and why redtube vs tube8 :laugh:

[Lab 10,979]

im bored with this lab,danw isnt there something else we can drag out for another 7 pages

 

 

ok then which is better and why redtube vs tube8 :laugh:

Both rubbish....................My vote is X hamster......

[Mooch. 177]

Just out of interest are cross breeds allowed to compete in gundog trials ??.

No.

 

I thought that was the case, pretty much eliminates the chances of a lurcher or any cross for that matter besting a purpose bred gundog.

Now this I defenetly agree with! I heard that the KC used to let crosses run but that one dog (a cross) won everything and that pissed off all the pure breed handlers!

[hily 379]

bored with mines bigger than yours .My answer to the post is this As i like shooting over a dog that hunts close and stops when flushes game for me to have a shot at then if i manage to shoot it the dog retrieves to hand.this for me is the basics for an all round GUNdog .I keep e.s.s.to shoot over and a x terrier to work with the ferrets .The point is depends what you want the dog to do and what sport you want to follow as a begginer if you try and incorperate to many things into your training you will end up with a dog that does'nt do owt well.

[paulus 26]

bored with mines bigger than yours .My answer to the post is this As i like shooting over a dog that hunts close and stops when flushes game for me to have a shot at then if i manage to shoot it the dog retrieves to hand.this for me is the basics for an all round GUNdog .I keep e.s.s.to shoot over and a x terrier to work with the ferrets .The point is depends what you want the dog to do and what sport you want to follow as a begginer if you try and incorperate to many things into your training you will end up with a dog that does'nt do owt well.

begginer so a dog can learn to much

[The Duncan 802]

why do the police/military/border control all use spaniels for explo/money/drugs dogs when any old mongrel would do?? could it be cause spaniels are better than bitzas.

 

Having owned spaniels and lurchers all my working life and round fathers before that, for work every day I take the spaniels and leave the lurchers in kennels why would that be cause no lurcher can ever do what I ask of my spaniels simple as really any one that thinks a lurcher could match them is frankly deluded.

or has had different experience to you?

[danw 1,748]

why do the police/military/border control all use spaniels for explo/money/drugs dogs when any old mongrel would do?? could it be cause spaniels are better than bitzas.

 

Having owned spaniels and lurchers all my working life and round fathers before that, for work every day I take the spaniels and leave the lurchers in kennels why would that be cause no lurcher can ever do what I ask of my spaniels simple as really any one that thinks a lurcher could match them is frankly deluded.

or has had different experience to you?

 

 

Show me a lurcher that can match them at their specific job day in day out through a season and I will happily retract that statement

[paulus 26]

why do the police/military/border control all use spaniels for explo/money/drugs dogs when any old mongrel would do?? could it be cause spaniels are better than bitzas.

 

Having owned spaniels and lurchers all my working life and round fathers before that, for work every day I take the spaniels and leave the lurchers in kennels why would that be cause no lurcher can ever do what I ask of my spaniels simple as really any one that thinks a lurcher could match them is frankly deluded.

or has had different experience to you?

 

 

Show me a lurcher that can match them at their specific job day in day out through a season and I will happily retract that statement

but redtube is better

[Millet 4,497]

Show me a lurcher that can match them at their specific job day in day out through a season and I will happily retract that statement

Show me a gun dog that can match any lurcher in versatility and multi tasking and i will eat hay with a donkey.. ..i thought we where on about allround dog's...not specialist's in one chosen game..