liam2009 0 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 what do you like youe dogs to do after they marked the set walk around the set and find a hole they want to cover,or just lay or sit down out the way and wait for a bolt or any other diffrent things the dogs do after they marked the set Quote Link to post
terrierjohn 49 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 i sit my dogs above and in the middle of the set so they can have a view on most of the holes and not one particular hole Quote Link to post
simonrob 4 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Don't have a dog myself but when out with my friend and his dog we just let her wonder and do her own thing. Found that she knows what's going on under there more than we do as she knows which hole it will be every time. Quote Link to post
caterpiller 10 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Don't have a dog myself but when out with my friend and his dog we just let her wonder and do her own thing. Found that she knows what's going on under there more than we do as she knows which hole it will be every time. Spot on..... A Dogs Hearing is far far superior to ours and will often follow the action going on underneath his/her feet ( I wonder if they also feel the vibrations ) Yes..... a young Dog will sometimes ' go in ' to early for a Rabbit when it is just sat inside the mouth of the hole unsure whether to bolt or not :hmm: they soon learn to let them cross that ' invisible ' line before going in for a strike..... experience is the only teacher Quote Link to post
Ideation 8,216 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Stand back. Watch the dogs. They are smarter than you are when it comes to this game. Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Generally the only time I direct the dug is when its sitting/standing in front of the holes,other than that I just leave them to it,the dog soon learns to hang aboot and wait for the action, Quote Link to post
comanche 2,919 Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 (edited) If its a young dog that's made a mark I'll have it lay quietly by the hole its marked while I set the nets leaving the one next to the dog until last . Obviously the rabbits will be aware of the dog but I think it keeps a pup feeling that it is truly involved in the whole operation . Once the ferret is in I'll keep it with me out of the direct line of the holes. Once the dog knows the game I may place it in a tactical position to cover exits I may not be able to see clearly . I've no problem with a calm experienced dog that calmly moves to another position with a purpose as ,has been said, doggy senses are far better tuned to underground activity than our own . Its only a personal thing but I find dogs that potter aimlessly over the burrows while the nets are being set or when the ferret is down a real annoyance . They break the concentration ,disturb nets and often put the rabbits off clean bolting . In the real world though perfection is more often an aim than a realisation Edited November 27, 2010 by comanche Quote Link to post
KittleRox 2,147 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 I,m awe confused only joking,most of the stuff on this thread is good advice Liam,once you get oot there ferreting you will develope your own style ,if you have a good bond with your dog and have done the basic training you will be able to read your dog and vice versa,the type of dog you use will also have an influence on how you/dog/ferrets work together,happy hunting,cheers, Quote Link to post
TOMO 26,005 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 " In the real world though perfection is more often an aim than a realisation " nice quote that comanche, and one ile claim for my own failings in dog training Quote Link to post
Meroman 105 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 (edited) Double post... Edited November 28, 2010 by Meroman Quote Link to post
Meroman 105 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Don't have a dog myself but when out with my friend and his dog we just let her wonder and do her own thing. Found that she knows what's going on under there more than we do as she knows which hole it will be every time. Spot on..... A Dogs Hearing is far far superior to ours and will often follow the action going on underneath his/her feet ( I wonder if they also feel the vibrations ) Yes..... a young Dog will sometimes ' go in ' to early for a Rabbit when it is just sat inside the mouth of the hole unsure whether to bolt or not :hmm: they soon learn to let them cross that ' invisible ' line before going in for a strike..... experience is the only teacher Well said.. Quote Link to post
The one 8,457 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 Mine will get out the road till we net up then follow the action on top of the burrow waiting on the bolt Quote Link to post
runforyourlife 361 Posted November 28, 2010 Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 If its a young dog that's made a mark I'll have it lay quietly by the hole its marked while I set the nets leaving the one next to the dog until last . Obviously the rabbits will be aware of the dog but I think it keeps a pup feeling that it is truly involved in the whole operation . Once the ferret is in I'll keep it with me out of the direct line of the holes. Once the dog knows the game I may place it in a tactical position to cover exits I may not be able to see clearly . I've no problem with a calm experienced dog that calmly moves to another position with a purpose as ,has been said, doggy senses are far better tuned to underground activity than our own . Its only a personal thing but I find dogs that potter aimlessly over the burrows while the nets are being set or when the ferret is down a real annoyance . They break the concentration ,disturb nets and often put the rabbits off clean bolting . In the real world though perfection is more often an aim than a realisation Agree with most of the above.. Apart from"potter aimlessly" A Well worked net dog isnt doing anything aimlessly, it has its own reasoning and purpose.. It will learn not to disturb nets etc, if it is aloud to learn... You cant beat watching a good dog work the ground.... 1 Quote Link to post
liam2009 0 Posted November 28, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2010 thanks for all the comments and roxy i already go out with my dog a ferrets but i went out the other day with a mate and is dog just layed or sat down out the way and he said thats how the dog is ment to work the ferrets but i have allways let my og mark the set and then just liseten for where the rabbit is goin to bolt but thanks for all the adivce and atb Quote Link to post
caterpiller 10 Posted November 29, 2010 Report Share Posted November 29, 2010 Well said runforyourlife.... never a truer word spoken People have different opinions on what they like. I like the Dog to 'HOLD' the Rabbit in the Net ( There is a VAST difference between HOLDING/GUARDING the Rabbit and a Dog that smashes into a Rabbit in the Net.... the type where it turns into some kind of WWF Wrestling Bout just to get the Rabbit and Net from down the Dogs throat ) at the end of the day..... a Dog can get there far far quicker than you can. I like the Dog to find it's own spot..... it can hear what is going on under the Turf far better than i can. I agree with RFYL,let them follow the action....(Dogs that charge up and down like a Decapitated Chicken at the slightest noise are as much use as a Chocolate Fireguard )a Dog that CALMLY follows the action is a different story I have a Bitch here who is not worth a squirt of Monkeys piss as a Ferreting Dog. She will Mark and all the rest of it BUT..... she is the Decapitated Chicken type and will ' Do one '(f*ck off) when there is a bit of a lull in the action Dogs like her have ' NO PLACE' on a Days Ferreting...... they are about as much use as a Chocalate Fireguard and are best left at home ..... she IS NOT a FERRETING DOG and never will be so her Ferreting days are just a distant memory. Quote Link to post
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