What breed mixes would you call Lurchers

[Guest crobinc840]

Mine is very soft mouthed and brings them live but her mouth doesn't look bull. Just wondering if the ones with a bull looking mouth are hard? Not really a statement of fact just thought it might be that way. I've never seen a mix with a bully face working.

[hollands hope 1,024]

A mate of mine has a borzoi x malinois. Awesome dog ,lurcher or not , who really cares as long as it does its job.

[Gaz_1989 9,539]

Sorry to thread hyjack but has anyone got one of them whippet x jacks?

 

Wouldn't mind seeing more and knowing what they are like.

 

Gaz

[NEWKID 27,676]

Sorry to thread hyjack but has anyone got one of them whippet x jacks?

 

Wouldn't mind seeing more and knowing what they are like.

 

Gaz

 

there was a thread up a while ago i think it was titled 'whirrer' that was about a jack x whippet the bloke had bred himself looked a nice dog. Also I think 'tyla' on here has got one.

I'm considering putting a whippet with my jack in the future, this is her first season just using her for bushing and ferreting so see how she does first, so far so good, she's long legged

an quick,was marking well( maybe a little too vigorously ) last time out with the ferrets and is real keen again needs a little reining in maybe.

I also like the sound of the mix but I also have a 3/4 whip 1/4 beddy and wonder if a jack x whippet would offer me anything that i dont already have, would only breed if i was gonna have one myself so we'll have to wait and see.

cheers

kev

[hickymick 37]

It's not mine it's in a shelter as far as I know. Thanks for the replies. It just seems some mixes are frowned upon because it's not the norm.

 

 

People are scared of trying something new. But trying something new is a big risk sometimes when we are talking about 10 years of your life with a beast. Also some folk just want something 'different' with more regard to form than function.

 

 

Wow do people here actually spend 10 years with the dogs Yes I know some do as I'm one of them. Sometimes the tried and trusted breeding still has poor results but I'm not sure if it comes down to lack of trainning more than the dog itself. Recently it seems the bull mixes are very popular but to me I feel a dog with a bull mouth would crush a rabbit. My Lurcher does have some bull but not much.

u saying,dogs with teeth dont kill rabbits???

[bird 10,005]

your proper lurcher was, when the (type) 1st started was a hearding dog x grey.! But today many other xs are as good or better, pitx grey, salukixgrey,sighthoundxs,lurcherxlurcher, all are good dogs, and all fill the bag.

[pitfurness 2]

I know a bloke who's got a poodle lurcher. mint dog and seriously quick! From what ~I've read about them since, the poodle was used as a hunting dog a long time ago.

[Guest crobinc840]

It's not mine it's in a shelter as far as I know. Thanks for the replies. It just seems some mixes are frowned upon because it's not the norm.

 

 

People are scared of trying something new. But trying something new is a big risk sometimes when we are talking about 10 years of your life with a beast. Also some folk just want something 'different' with more regard to form than function.

 

 

Wow do people here actually spend 10 years with the dogs Yes I know some do as I'm one of them. Sometimes the tried and trusted breeding still has poor results but I'm not sure if it comes down to lack of trainning more than the dog itself. Recently it seems the bull mixes are very popular but to me I feel a dog with a bull mouth would crush a rabbit. My Lurcher does have some bull but not much.

u saying,dogs with teeth dont kill rabbits???

 

Not at all, I've seen some damage done from grey looking Lurchers. I thought because they have strong jaw muscles and the way their teeth are set makes it much easier for them to damage a rabbit. I've seen a pitbull latch onto a mans leg and nothing could pry it off or make the dog let go. In the end they got a water hose and put it on the dogs nose. This only happened because the dog was trainned to do it but it was capable of causing great damage. I was wondering if they could be trained to be soft mouthed?

[DeanD 3]

Have heard 75/25 minimum, 75 being sighthound... so at what point does the amount of working dog become diluted enough that its no longer a lurcher? 1/16th... 1/32... 1/64th??

 

What is the difference in performance between the longdog and the lurcher... are longdogs well suited or no?

[Guest crobinc840]

Good questions

[no1 jibber 31]

It's not mine it's in a shelter as far as I know. Thanks for the replies. It just seems some mixes are frowned upon because it's not the norm.

 

 

People are scared of trying something new. But trying something new is a big risk sometimes when we are talking about 10 years of your life with a beast. Also some folk just want something 'different' with more regard to form than function.

 

 

Wow do people here actually spend 10 years with the dogs Yes I know some do as I'm one of them. Sometimes the tried and trusted breeding still has poor results but I'm not sure if it comes down to lack of trainning more than the dog itself. Recently it seems the bull mixes are very popular but to me I feel a dog with a bull mouth would crush a rabbit. My Lurcher does have some bull but not much.

u saying,dogs with teeth dont kill rabbits???

 

Not at all, I've seen some damage done from grey looking Lurchers. I thought because they have strong jaw muscles and the way their teeth are set makes it much easier for them to damage a rabbit. I've seen a pitbull latch onto a mans leg and nothing could pry it off or make the dog let go. In the end they got a water hose and put it on the dogs nose. This only happened because the dog was trainned to do it but it was capable of causing great damage. I was wondering if they could be trained to be soft mouthed?

 

 

never heard so much shite talk in my hole life and buy the sounds of it i doubt you have seen much at all fella, no wonder why this sites gone to the dogs so to speak with people like this joining, talking utter nonsense.

Edited November 29, 2010 by no1 jibber

[Ideation 8,216]

Have heard 75/25 minimum, 75 being sighthound... so at what point does the amount of working dog become diluted enough that its no longer a lurcher? 1/16th... 1/32... 1/64th??

 

What is the difference in performance between the longdog and the lurcher... are longdogs well suited or no?

 

 

It has nothing to do with percentages. A lurcher is ANY running dog that contains pure sight hound and non sight hound breeds. So that would be both collie/grey and even something a daft as salukixpatterdale would technically be a lurcher (whether it could do the job is an entirely separate question). A long dog is ANY running dog that contains only pure sight hound breeds (the classics being whippet/grey, saluki/grey and deerhound/grey).

 

I dont think it is possible to neatly divide in performance between long dogs and lurchers but in a historical sense lurchers were bred as such to disguise their role by disguising their form, and also to add other necessary qualities other than speed - such as cunning, biddibility etc. These dogs were more suited to all round pot fillers etc.

 

Long dogs traditionally were more suited to the open fields and running the hare.

 

However all of the above is just a theory. Some of the best lamp dogs i've seen were long dogs and plenty of folk have seen mongrel lurchers run a hare and kill. . . . . . so there you go.

 

As for crobinc84 - yes if your main or only quarry is rabbits then a bullx may not be best (although there are some out there that will retrieve bunnies back to hand). But if you happened to come across a very unusual rabbit - you might be quite happy you brought the big guns? Ya get me?

[DeanD 3]

 

 

I dont think it is possible to neatly divide in performance between long dogs and lurchers but in a historical sense lurchers were bred as such to disguise their role by disguising their form, and also to add other necessary qualities other than speed - such as cunning, biddibility etc. These dogs were more suited to all round pot fillers etc.

 

Long dogs traditionally were more suited to the open fields and running the hare.

 

However all of the above is just a theory. Some of the best lamp dogs i've seen were long dogs and plenty of folk have seen mongrel lurchers run a hare and kill. . . . . . so there you go.

 

 

Thank you, seems like a reasonable answer especially from a historical aspect.

[Guest crobinc840]

It's not mine it's in a shelter as far as I know. Thanks for the replies. It just seems some mixes are frowned upon because it's not the norm.

 

 

People are scared of trying something new. But trying something new is a big risk sometimes when we are talking about 10 years of your life with a beast. Also some folk just want something 'different' with more regard to form than function.

 

 

Wow do people here actually spend 10 years with the dogs Yes I know some do as I'm one of them. Sometimes the tried and trusted breeding still has poor results but I'm not sure if it comes down to lack of trainning more than the dog itself. Recently it seems the bull mixes are very popular but to me I feel a dog with a bull mouth would crush a rabbit. My Lurcher does have some bull but not much.

u saying,dogs with teeth dont kill rabbits???

 

Not at all, I've seen some damage done from grey looking Lurchers. I thought because they have strong jaw muscles and the way their teeth are set makes it much easier for them to damage a rabbit. I've seen a pitbull latch onto a mans leg and nothing could pry it off or make the dog let go. In the end they got a water hose and put it on the dogs nose. This only happened because the dog was trainned to do it but it was capable of causing great damage. I was wondering if they could be trained to be soft mouthed?

 

 

never heard so much shite talk in my hole life and buy the sounds of it i doubt you have seen much at all fella, no wonder why this sites gone to the dogs so to speak with people like this joining, talking utter nonsense.

 

 

How would you know lady as you've just started on this site? Keep it up and you'll have to figure out yet another user name and I'm sure your little brain would have a hard time figuring out one.

[Bosun11 537]

I'd have to agree with Ideation in his first paragraph, yep, thats it, Lurcher, in it's simplest terms

 

As for bully headed lurchers and bunny crunching...

 

Well if folk stopped thinking that bull crosses are some altogether mythical beast and looked upon them fat headed mutts as just another Lurcher, which they most certainly are. Then schooled 'em in exactly the same way, which they should. They would realise that starting any lurcher 'firstly' on rabbits, after sound basic training, will almost certainly produce a dog that retrieves live.

Yep, their are always exceptions to the type and possibly the odd accident through a youngsters over exuberance but ANY lurcher brought on right will always differenciate on what bites back and what doesnt, no matter how fat its bonce is...!