shooting hares

[Guest Magwitch]

ps Its MR Top Chalker to you .........

not on your nelly

[stitch 2]

running dog thread glad im deaf

[juckler123 707]

i hate shooting everything exept those tame pheasant things and even they get a chance as i only go at night as for permission its boring takes the fun right out of the sport plus you need a lot of land to go at as wildlife educates quick to a chap with a dog known a few poachers turned keeper and they all turned against their mates funny how people can do that

[minion 29]

To be honest I think there are two types of poachers. There are the guys who just want a bit sport for themselfs and their dogs and they respect the land and animals they persue. Then there are the ones who don't care about the land they are poaching. Walls and gates get damaged and that's what anoyes most landowners (in my experiance) and I think it's pathetic not to look after the land you are on.

 

I don't have any permission as such, but I do work my dog fairly reguarly. I make sure that there is no damage to property and that i close all gates, respect all livestock etc and I would be very surprised if the land owners even knew i'd been there.

 

Just because you are a poacher does not mean that you are not a countyman.

[juckler123 707]

I agree 100 per cent and you aint much of a poacher if you leave any signs that youve been on the land robbing vandalilising and driving over crops etc theres no wonder theyd sooner shoot their hares one keeper near me shot everyone and let em rot this keeper is a real conservationist and never bothered the odd lad out for one for the pot but when gambling lads started drving cars all over the estate on and off road he said he had no choice it was the easy way out

Edited January 4, 2007 by juckler123

[Yokel Matt 918]

quote name='minion' date='Jan 4 2007, 07:42 AM' post='169808']

To be honest I think there are two types of poachers. There are the guys who just want a bit sport for themselfs and their dogs and they respect the land and animals they persue. Then there are the ones who don't care about the land they are poaching. Walls and gates get damaged and that's what anoyes most landowners (in my experiance) and I think it's pathetic not to look after the land you are on.

 

I don't have any permission as such, but I do work my dog fairly reguarly. I make sure that there is no damage to property and that i close all gates, respect all livestock etc and I would be very surprised if the land owners even knew i'd been there.

 

Just because you are a poacher does not mean that you are not a countyman.

 

Fair doo's mate :friends: ... i just get pissed off when i'm not granted permission because the wrong sort tar everyone with the same brush .

 

Back to the original point though...

 

A similar Hare shooting thread came up a while ago and this thread looks to be spouting the same sort of crap at that one. Sledging one discipline of hunting in preference to your own is nothing more than a 'more for me' attitude and goes to show how blinkered some people are on their own sport .

 

Don't get me wrong, running dogs looks like a great sport and obviously requires dedication and skill )which i have a lot of time for) but sledging shooting on the ground of the numbers shot and the quarry's welfare is bollocks. Some areas require more intensive methods of control than others and accidents happen on both sides and its the hunters responsibility to keep these to a minimum and sort it out quickly when it happens.

 

 

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[Border Terrier 0]

It seems a liberty to shoot such an amazing athlete which runs so well with a good dog behind it. I would rather watch a hare run by a dog than see it shot any day of the week.

[Yokel Matt 918]

It seems a liberty to shoot such an amazing athlete which runs so well with a good dog behind it. I would rather watch a hare run by a dog than see it shot any day of the week.

 

:whistle: Fair doo's bud... horses for courses.

[Guest Frank]

I shoot hares from time to time with a .22lr rifle, in areas where their is a lot of sheep and the farmers prefer not to have a running dog going threw their sheep.

These areas hold a high number of hares and when the sheep are gone off the land in the winter, i course it with freinds, who have hare dogs and i must say, i much prefer a good dog behind a good strong hare everytime.

 

Frank.

Edited January 4, 2007 by Frank

[Guest oldskool]

i dont reckon its as bad as that but i know that far too many dont get dropped on the first shot.... if hares needed to be cleared away i would say a lamp and .22mag should clear a good few away with out much fuss...

[Simoman 110]

BANG MISSED

 

 

Thats sounds like my style of shooting Thats why I don't shoot hares

[Guest JohnGalway]

i think if i was a hare ide rather be shot that coursed by a dog....bang dead ....or bang ..missed ..off he plods

your trying to make it sound like it the hares welfare your out after but it not its the thrill of the run you like(as would i} dont try to kid yourself a gun is as humane as a dog

 

 

BANG DEAD OR BANG MISSED .... YOU TALK SOME SHITE LAD, HAV YU EVER FIRED A SHOT IN YOUR LIFE? I LIKE SHOOTING BUT HARES BEING SHOT WITH A SHOTGUN IS RARELY BANG DEAD BUT MORE LIKE BANG BANG NEARLY DROPPED IT AND THEN BANG AS THE LAST SHOT MANAGES TO PULL THE WIND OUT OF HIM.

 

If you own one, please sell it for the good of the rest of us I've shot hares with shotgun, either you know how to do it properly or leave it to someone who does please.

[Rabbithunter 456]

This afternoon drove by field locally.Shooters out in field.guess what theyre shooting? HARES.

Yes I know it goes on and that its legal and that they shoot thousands of hares legally a year but who agrees with it?

 

 

the same person who shoots them probably thinks that coursing is "dispicable"

 

weather we ferret, shoot, trap or dog.... we are all hunters and are all targeted. we should be sticking together.

[Guest MOLLY]

Anyone who says it is cruel for a hare to be coursed is talking absolute bollocks imo.

Ever thought why the hare has eyes on the side of its head and is built to run very fast....because mother nature intended for the hare to be chased by its predators, therefore giving it the means to escape.

It is perfectly natural/normal to the hare or rabbit to be chased by dogs, wolves, bop etc etc and to be killed. People keep putting human emotions onto wild animals, they do not end their lives in a warm burrow with a morphine drip, the weak, old and ill are chased and caught by predators therefore ensuring no long drawn out death. The fit and healthy survive to pass the good genes to the next generation. Im not aware of anyone who shoots hares being able to make that distinction

MOLL.

[miles 227]

Anyone who says it is cruel for a hare to be coursed is talking absolute bollocks imo.

Ever thought why the hare has eyes on the side of its head and is built to run very fast....because mother nature intended for the hare to be chased by its predators, therefore giving it the means to escape.

It is perfectly natural/normal to the hare or rabbit to be chased by dogs, wolves, bop etc etc and to be killed. People keep putting human emotions onto wild animals, they do not end their lives in a warm burrow with a morphine drip, the weak, old and ill are chased and caught by predators therefore ensuring no long drawn out death. The fit and healthy survive to pass the good genes to the next generation. Im not aware of anyone who shoots hares being able to make that distinction

MOLL.

spot on Moll!