teastas mor

[billybunter 72]

teastas mor is a certificate of gameness issued to a dog by the irish kennel club

strict irish kennel club rules governed the teastas mor cetificate of gameness].

it was considered that the discipline ensured contests between dog and badger

were fair.

in the past to become an irish kennel club terrier champion, it was necessary

for a terrier to be in possession of a teastas mor.

these continued until the kennel club ceased to licence trials in 1968.

 

RULES

 

1. the trials must be conducted strictly within the law and are restricted to

dogs and bitches which have not already qualified for the teastas mor certificate

 

2. a] a veterinary surgeon must be in attendance at the trial.

under no circumstances may a trial take place without one,and his name and address

must be recorded on the application for a licence and on the licence issued by the

kennel club.

 

2.b] in the event of any serious injury occurring to any dog or badger,the animal at the

discretion of the veterinary surgeon shall be humaely and expeditiously destroyd.

 

3. the trial of any dog must be in natural setts.

under no circumstances may tests be carried out in artificial setts.

a dog may not be tried mor than twice in any trial.

 

4. once a badger is drawn, it must not be released or returned to the earth until the

conclusion of the trials.

 

5. badger in captivity shall not be used for tests or training.

 

6. sounders ae expected to go the ground with alacrit. when a sounder reports the

resence of game by a full and sustained tongue, a reasonable time shall be allowed

before diggers begin to work.

when the sounders records persistently from one section of the sett, digging shall commence

under direction of the judges.

 

7. the badger shall be drawm by a strong terrier,with the assistance if necessary, and the size

of the badger and underground conditions noted by the judges.

 

8. if a sett is apparently unoccupied, several terriers may be run through it and their eagernes

to search noted.

 

9. with regards to strong terriers, the teastas mor is to be awarded to the terrier showing gameness

in attacking badgers.five minutes is the minimun period a terrier shall be in contact with the badger,

except when the terrier draws the badger in less time.

each terrier shall be withdrawn as soon as possible after the five minutes have expired.

the judges may direct that a terrier be again tried if, in their opinion, the first trial was for any

reason an inufficient test.

 

10. five minutes are to be allowed a terrier before being disqualified for failing to get in contact

 

11. barking shall be eliminated as much as possible and disqualification will follow barking after contact,

provided no terrier is disqualified for barking when in actual contact.

 

 

i hope you find this a interesting read thoght i would put this up after jacob mentioned

it in a recent thread all the best b bunter

[jpnixon 7]

Am i right in thinking that adog then only had to in contact with game for 5mins before it was dug out but it is an excellant read

[PBurns 9]

Let's not drink the Koolaid on all this "teastas mor" stuff, eh

 

This was an invented thing that did not work out very well, and it continues to confuse people who think badger baiting and badger hunting are the same. They are not, and the more a point is put on that pencil the better. For a true history, see here >>

 

http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/...y-leads-to.html

[Simoman 110]

Let's not drink the Koolaid

 

 

Whats Koolaid?

[billybunter 72]

Let's not drink the Koolaid on all this "teastas mor" stuff, eh

 

This was an invented thing that did not work out very well, and it continues to confuse people who think badger baiting and badger hunting are the same. They are not, and the more a point is put on that pencil the better. For a true history, see here >>

 

http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/...y-leads-to.html

 

 

i put this up as i found it a interesting read and thought others

would to

but you know just about every f*****g thing about every f*****g topic

cheers bb

[jacob 28]

im sure a lot of people will find it interesting even just to further their knowledge on working dogs in general ,its historical fact,and we can draw our own conclusions from that,good stuff billy look forward to some pics.

[Guest JDF]

five minutes will hardly test the gameness of a dog.

[Nipper 0]

Koolaid is an American drink, made from powder and mixed with water. Very nice.

 

Got to hand it to you Mr Burns, you do the research!!

[PBurns 9]

Always interesting , but also useful to put in context. A lot of folks get confused as to what terrier work is, and our enemies like to breed that confusion and blur the edges trying to associate legitimate terrier work with stuff the intelligent will have nothing to do with. Putting a point on the difference between baiting a badger and hunting a badger (or baiting and hunting anything, for that matter) is how you protect your sport. Context is important.

 

As for "Don't drink the Koolaid," the expression comes from the tragedy that grew out of Jonestown (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonestown ) and basically means to investigate a bit deeper and take nothing at face value.

 

P.

[jimmyg 6]

Let's not drink the Koolaid on all this "teastas mor" stuff, eh

 

This was an invented thing that did not work out very well, and it continues to confuse people who think badger baiting and badger hunting are the same. They are not, and the more a point is put on that pencil the better. For a true history, see here >>

 

http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/...y-leads-to.html

Interesting post

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

Feck me the lad was only explaining how the gameness of "DRAW DOGS" was tested ie; Glenn of Immal terriers and Wheatons being the prefered breeds, the rules are clear as set out your dog has to go to grips not sound and draw it's quarry within 5 mins if the dog barks it's disqualified if the judge is'nt happy with the way the dog has performed he orders a retrial. It's not that hard to understand. Why argue over a practise that is no longer in use.

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

Let's not drink the Koolaid on all this "teastas mor" stuff, eh

 

This was an invented thing that did not work out very well, and it continues to confuse people who think badger baiting and badger hunting are the same. They are not, and the more a point is put on that pencil the better. For a true history, see here >>

 

http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/...y-leads-to.html

True history according to the yanks you mean?? were you doing badger trials here in Eire back before 1968? maybe you could enlighten us as to what realy took place as you seem to be an expert?

[Guest Eamon.Mc]

Let's not drink the Koolaid on all this "teastas mor" stuff, eh

 

This was an invented thing that did not work out very well, and it continues to confuse people who think badger baiting and badger hunting are the same. They are not, and the more a point is put on that pencil the better. For a true history, see here >>

 

http://terriermandotcom.blogspot.com/2006/...y-leads-to.html

Was just wondering if you know the old translation of what "Teastas mor" actually means? And if you can pronounce it?

Edited January 5, 2007 by Eamon.Mc

[Bryan 1,362]

it means,main certificate(direct translation would be certificate big/large[but mor also means of great importance in Irish])

would be pronounced, taas-tiss moor(obviously said quickly1)

 

it says in that blog that the aim is to dig down on the critter,surely it's down onto the dog not the quarry,were you to dig onto the quarry you'd be putting alot of pressure on the dog to keep it bottled up.

 

it also says badgers are still dug in Ireland even though it's illegal,a very helpful statement

 

the guy seems to have more opinions than knowledge on this subject

Bryan

[Guest oldskool]

p burns did say one true thing!! badger baiting and badger hunting is often, if not always, confused as being the same